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If I were to get a RR, I would want this one...





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If I were to get a RR, I would want this one...




Your post is in rather poor taste and in the American idiom rather "Cheesy." Low brow humor is indicative of being ignorant. Please try and show some decorum that is worthy of being stated in the same breath of mentioning a RR. In other words display sum klass ya pecker wood Hillbilly.
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Your post is in rather poor taste and in the American idiom rather "Cheesy." Low brow humor is indicative of being ignorant. Please try and show some decorum that is worthy of being stated in the same breath of mentioning a RR. In other words display sum klass ya pecker wood Hillbilly.
Sorry, but I'm not a poser like some here, I drive my cars, hit the track, even instruct, the reason the Cannonball RR appeals to me
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Sorry, but I'm not a poser like some here, I drive my cars, hit the track, even instruct, the reason the Cannonball RR appeals to me
"Hitting the Track" with your head has effected your mental acuity. Your "hitting the track" with your head Class seemingly has a lot of popularity with the Pelican Board members. As they have matriculated with honors and are now displaying their new found mental acuity. ...
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WTF is up with your attacks on me, so what i like the Hot Rodded RR from Cannonball, i still have friends with RR, both new and old. Have friends who still service them. None of them share your BS attitude. If I was a Red neck like you claim, I'd already be on the way to Vegas to kick your fat ass up and down the strip. But since I'm not a Red neck (not that there is anything wrong with that) I'm going to let it slide. And to think, I actually had respect for you.
Back on topic, that era RR, as have been pointed out, cost a crapload to maintain, take a look at the brake system, repetitive and crazy. So they are cheap for the same reason 928s are and I have 1st hand experience with 928 cost...
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We got Tabs started on Rolls-Royce and he got all uppity again.
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A freind of mine is figuring this all out with an older Jaguar XJS coupe.Keeping the 12 cylinder, and it's related components operating correctly are very expensive, and let's face it, at a car show, is completely ignored.....just no interest.

Large luxury cars have never piqued my interest at all, I appreciate the work that goes into them, but my attitude is "MEH !"

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We got Tabs started on Rolls-Royce and he got all uppity again.
Tabs is being Tabby....and a good ol' boy redneck took the bait

Lighten up Frances(es)....both you boyz are entertaining at least
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We got Tabs started on Rolls-Royce and he got all uppity again.
Wait, did he stop? When? What did I miss?
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You think RR had a different platform back then?
They did. I bought several books on Rolls-Royce over the years and you know who they were absolutely terrified of? Cadillac. It's why they went from their inline-6 to developing their V8, it's why they built the monocoque Silver Shadow, it's why the car has a GM transmission and air conditioning. They built those cars to be dead-nuts reliable and truthfully anyone that can keep a GM V8 running would have no trouble with a Silver Shadow/Bentley T.

So why did they license a French braking system? Crazy, but remember that Citroen's DS was the "wave of the future" and it had the most powerful, most refined braking system in the world at the time, considering you need to stop something weighing 5000 lbs. People complain about it now, but if you're willing to learn it's do-able for a home mechanic - guys overseas keep their old French cars running, after all. It's no more pricey than repairing modern luxury cars with hydraulic suspension, from what I've seen.

At the end of the day, I'd rather have another Silver Shadow (pre-74, ideally a JY coupe) over a recent Quattroporte, and I really like the Quattroporte.

And of course, you can bypass most of the headaches if you get a Silver Cloud, which is part of the reason the earlier cars are more expensive. Equally nice, cheaper to run. Go for the 6-cylinder.
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It seems to me, with some (a lot of) work, you could make one of these old RR's pretty livable.

I think it would be pretty funny to replace the brakes, suspension, and engine with GM units to increase the serviceability and decrease the service costs. Of course, that would require a fair degree of fabrication.

Of course, it would destroy the originality, but who cares with a car that is worth so little?
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We got Tabs started on Rolls-Royce and he got all uppity again.
One prefers to refer to it as being dignified as the marque warrants. As to that other fellows rather crude display of bellicosity, he just further reinforced ones earlier judgements.
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It seems to me, with some (a lot of) work, you could make one of these old RR's pretty livable.

I think it would be pretty funny to replace the brakes, suspension, and engine with GM units to increase the serviceability and decrease the service costs. Of course, that would require a fair degree of fabrication.

Of course, it would destroy the originality, but who cares with a care that is worth so little?
Then one should purchase a Caprice.
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They did. I bought several books on Rolls-Royce over the years and you know who they were absolutely terrified of? Cadillac. It's why they went from their inline-6 to developing their V8, it's why they built the monocoque Silver Shadow, it's why the car has a GM transmission and air conditioning. They built those cars to be dead-nuts reliable and truthfully anyone that can keep a GM V8 running would have no trouble with a Silver Shadow/Bentley T.

So why did they license a French braking system? Crazy, but remember that Citroen's DS was the "wave of the future" and it had the most powerful, most refined braking system in the world at the time, considering you need to stop something weighing 5000 lbs. People complain about it now, but if you're willing to learn it's do-able for a home mechanic - guys overseas keep their old French cars running, after all. It's no more pricey than repairing modern luxury cars with hydraulic suspension, from what I've seen.

At the end of the day, I'd rather have another Silver Shadow (pre-74, ideally a JY coupe) over a recent Quattroporte, and I really like the Quattroporte.

And of course, you can bypass most of the headaches if you get a Silver Cloud, which is part of the reason the earlier cars are more expensive. Equally nice, cheaper to run. Go for the 6-cylinder.
They are truly beautiful automobiles. You are right about the Clouds. I believe the last year's of production featured a v8.

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They are truly beautiful automobiles. You are right about the Clouds. I believe the last year's of production featured a v8.
The V8's in the last production Silver Clouds were problematic. My dad's 58 Cloud with the 6 cyl. is pretty much bullet proof, and dead simple to work on.
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The V8's in the last production Silver Clouds were problematic. My dad's 58 Cloud with the 6 cyl. is pretty much bullet proof, and dead simple to work on.
I know that the 6 cyl Clouds were easy peazy to work on and as such were different animals. I know a bit about the Shadows because I had one.
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So why did they license a French braking system? Crazy, but remember that Citroen's DS was the "wave of the future"
So I start sniffing around. The Citroen DS hit in about '55.

When did RR license the braking technology?
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Then one should purchase a Caprice.
What, so you could put a wacky French braking system on it?

Brakes are brakes. Fiddly, complex and unreliable loses to simple and functional every single time.

Ted, you need to get some fresh air.

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