Singer

[Captain Ahab Jr]

Originally Posted by Zeke

RUF has been a manufacturer since the old man built buses in Germany. So they can stamp their VIN on a car. In the US a potential car maker would have to submit to the DOT. I'm not an expert so I can't tell you if there are any exemptions to things like crash testing.

IMHO, Singer is better off making 'modified' cars using the original make and model VIN. A RUF is not a Porsche, it just uses some Porsche parts. So, a RUF is not a 911 in my mind with respect to your question. A Singer still is if only on the tag under the windshield.

To be able to sell cars in the USA I was told Singer have to build there cars around an existing car ie Porsche 964 I'm guessing this covers them for crash testing homologation/DOT type approval and other legislation issues etc

The RUF chassis to my eyes is a much more advanced and better engineered solution. I believe RUF only had to show crash simulation analysis and did not crash test a full car.

Won, neat looking chassis, what project was that for. Only carbon fibre roadcar chassis I've worked was on the McLaren F1. A very different beast to what is mass produced today as it was all made using F1 manufacturing techniques.

[Won]

Sorry to go off topic guys, but good to see you back Milt! There is a company in Vancouver called Intermeccanica (sure some here will know them). They're a manufacturer but I think they grandfathered all of the current, highly restrictive homologation requirements. But still, for a company like Singer and the level they play at, surely they could do so much more as a manufacturer. Sometimes I do appreciate the UK's approach to allowing kit cars and small builders to be registered, "as long as it's MOT'd".

Capt, that car is called Visio.M. It was a collaboration between Germany OEMs led by TUM. I was on the manufacturing side at the time so a lot of hands-on stuff. That's where I first saw acoustic emission stuff, too. We outsourced the front/rear metallic subframe work to a German company that usually fabricates tower crane cockpits and such. It was such a shock (for them and for me) to try to explain the "automotive" tolerances of +/- 2mm with regards to hole centres, etc. I thought it was way too loose, still nothing lined up and we ended up using a lot of different sledge hammers, some too heavy for me to even lift.

Which bits of the DLS did you work on, then?

Interesting detail with the steering wheel. I was thinking there is no way Momo would expose themselves with a composite wheel on a road-going car, et voila it seems to be more a carbon cover on top of a normal Prototypo-typo design.

[pavulon]

[Shaun @ Tru6]

I've just finished testing for a "permanent" restoration process for Singer nickel plated door frames, etc.

[pavulon]

Very cool.

At one time I thought that operation may be a flash in the pan sort of thing. I'm happy to have been quite wrong. The current business seems to have a singular purpose and to be bent on relentless improvement. In today's disposable appliance climate, it's very admirable.

Originally Posted by Shaun @ Tru6

I've just finished testing for a "permanent" restoration process for Singer nickel plated door frames, etc.

[Shaun @ Tru6]

There are many reasons for Singer's success, most notably for me is their dedication to building a car far past anyone else's expectations with absolutely no compromises, other than nickel plating oxidation that is. I'm not surprised that they are selling for 2X original price on BaT.

[A930Rocket]

Cool cars, as usual. I find the host in the video grates on my nerves.

Originally Posted by pavulon

[pavulon]

Could see how that might be. Currently, I find Henry Catchpole to be a good balance between information and presentation. I enjoy American restomod stuff but the Autotopia LA guy...not so much.

Originally Posted by A930Rocket

Cool cars, as usual. I find the host in the video grates on my nerves.