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962porsche 05-30-2013 10:23 AM

there are really no gray market colors for the most part porsche does offer all there colors for all there models for all over the world market .
so it's not like you could only get a color in only one country .

i have stated this many times the color name has no meaning at all . only the color number/ code is importent .
because i'm still looking into the color code i'm not sure yet if the name is some thing porsche called it or because of some reason BASF just stuck that name on it .
over the years porsche has changed the names and even the color code on some of there colors only to find they are the same color from years past .



if i had your car in my shop i would color max the color on your car . color max are real spray out chip/ cards BASF does for just this reason . color carmeras are only about 70% accurate so you will not get a spot on match from them .
because i crossed the 54 line to the 55 line and they are solvent based it will do nothing for you having to spray the car in a water borne system so it's totaly useless to any one were they have to spray water borne color coats .

as for the interior i only headed the coatings dept at porsche so that is not any thing i would be able to track down . i do have a funny fealing that your car may have come with the black interior and not the white one you have now ?
white interiors became very popular in the mid 1980's to the early 1990's so it could have been changed when the color of the car was ? one why you maybe able to tell is to see what type of glue they used to hold some of the pieces in the car .

76Turbo 08-22-2013 06:03 AM

....found an original picture of my 930. Paint looks similar in color to the posts above, ive color matched it as best i could and my car is going jnto the body shop for a repaint to "original" guise. Just wish exact paint specs were available! White interior is original.


http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1377180092.jpg

dml 10-24-2014 08:08 PM

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1414209551.jpg
this one is listed as Marathon Blue not sure of the code however

pu911 11-08-2014 08:58 PM

76 turbo That sure looks like ice blue metallic to me but that is paint code 360, the car below (DML) is code 358 as I popped door open to get code.
Phil

76Turbo 01-04-2015 02:39 PM

I thought I would update this 358-9-3 paint thread as the comments and suggestions posted have helped me immensely in getting through the daunting repaint-back-to-orginal process. We found an extremely closely matching Audi-sourced paint, matched using the original painted door and window jams of the car.

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1420414204.jpg

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1420414236.jpg
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1420414311.jpg

Couple iphone shots from inside paint booth - again paint in the raw.

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1420414390.jpg
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1420414462.jpg

Still in a raw form --- factory/stock wheels & tires still waiting to get installed after body is completely back together
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1420414485.jpg
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1420414513.jpg

Its been almost a 2 year process to get to this point. Hoping 2015 will be the year to get her back on the road

962porsche 01-04-2015 05:00 PM

about 4 or 5 months ago BASF emailed me the paint formula for 358 until now I didn't know why they did as I forgot about this posting .

dml 04-19-2015 06:43 PM

Here is Marathon blue again. It is difficult to capture the richness of this color in photos, but I keep trying.
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1429497695.jpg

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1429497764.jpg

dml 08-07-2016 07:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 962porsche (Post 8425013)
about 4 or 5 months ago BASF emailed me the paint formula for 358 until now I didn't know why they did as I forgot about this posting .

Would this be the same code for Marathon Blue L96M from the 74 914 color charts?
Thanks!

76Turbo 08-07-2016 08:53 AM

I'd be happy to pay 962Porsche to share the BASF fomula they emailed... If only to end this mission & see how close I color matched the paint --- would be greatly appreciated! 👍

dml - I looked closely at L96M and it was definitely 'more blue' than original paint found in window jams of this 358 paint coded car.

...speaking of which the engine has been rebuilt, her new upholstered interior is currently getting installed. Progress is being made, maybe next year it'll be ready for the Werks reunion. Ha!

Quote:

Originally Posted by dml (Post 9230547)
Would this be the same code for Marathon Blue L96M from the 74 914 color charts?
Thanks!


dml 09-07-2016 05:23 PM

we seem to be on our own on this....

dml 12-05-2017 07:10 PM

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1512532946.jpg

Old thread I know, but I spoke with the advertiser of this 75 911 Carrera, and it has color code 358 9 3 as well, so there is one more... SmileWavy

pu911 12-06-2017 05:31 AM

Let me look through Ryan's book on the Carrera 2.7, there is some excellent information on the various paint codes used from 74-77. He is about to publish a book the 3.0 turbo's that will contain how many were painted the various paint codes. I will post any further information on code 358 I can find.

Phil

SAABARC 08-26-2024 02:59 PM

Father
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by 76Turbo (Post 7453591)
So far I have found 3 1974 911 owners with that color code and the 1977 930 sold a few years ago on ebay, in addition to my 1976.

So that is 5 cars over three production years... so, someone would have had to skip over it a few times. And interestingly, all seem to be a Silver-Blue.

I appreciate you loking into this via your contacts, I'm definately on a mission, to track down info on it not only for the repaint needed, but also just for historical reasons.......... would someone back in Stuggart be any assistance?

my dad just passed and left me a 1984 "Widow Maker" and it's in a Midnight blue really deep royal almost, Porsche Dark Blue (dunkelblau) is a classic non-metallic navy blue.

Dpmulvan 09-17-2024 05:25 AM

The key to that paint code lies in the last 3 in the paint code. 2 would designate a basf or glasurit. I don’t know if the 3 is a Herbert’s product designation or not. If I recall correctly the last digit 1-4 designated the brand of paint used and the only one I can remember is 2 for BASF.

jameshurst71t 08-02-2025 03:46 AM

Add another to the list. I just bought a barn find 1978 911SC with stamped 358-9-3 in the door jam. It needs a respray after everything else is done.

It has a terrible color change paint job to Hell Blau but I can see the silver blue PTS color underneath in spots.

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1754135162.jpg
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1754135162.jpg

dml 08-07-2025 07:05 PM

Ryan Snodgrass, in his book Carrera 2.7, notes that a 1975 ROW Carrera 911 560 0077 was painted Marathon Blue Metallic (358-9-3). Page 119...:)

jameshurst71t 08-25-2025 06:21 AM

You are correct. I just got an email back from BASF paint specialist saying: “Hello James,
It looks like the POR 358-9-3 corresponds with VW L96M, Marathonblau Met.”

Plus the 2nd pic here is a dead ringer for same color imo. https://www.instagram.com/p/CkCZavrpaU5/?img_index=1&igsh=MXNkamRtZ21ub2cwZA==


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