Color Code: 358-9-3
 

1976 930 (Euro version)
VIN: 93006700329

Current color is a dark blue... I can tell from engine compartment and other areas, the original color was a light/baby blue.

I would like totake it back to original color - but CANNOT find the code listed anywhere. Any help, thoughts, directions would be greatly appreciated

Thnx,
Dan

This is the plaque:
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Based upon this ad
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and your description of the colour, it would seem to correspond to Marathon Blue (L96M), a VW colour that was also available on the 914.

-Todd

Check off Marathon Blue. Unfortunately not it. Ordered a sample, it came out with much more ofva blue & a couple shades darker than the original paint in the engine bay. Nice color though!

So anyone familar or with knowledge of color code 358?

at some point to day i will look in my books from when i worked at porsche AG and get the color info for you .

i have no listing of the color code in any of my books so i called a old coworker at porsche to check . he said the same thing no code for that number . we think your car was stamped wrong . it does happen some times as they are stamped by a person tiping in the color number .
in the year of 1976 there are only 6 blues that are listed for any 911 and 930's .
ther were only 9 different ever painted that year the other ones are 99 colors and your car is not a 99 color .
i would like to see the color of what the car was solid or metalic ?

962Porsche: Thank you for your assistance here - i appreciate it.

A couple of things. I have searched and come across several other owners with the 358-9-3 paint code, here are the links. Nibody seems to know the name, but all are similar in color, a silverish-blue. It is a Metallic. Here are the links:

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/porsche-911-technical-forum/32366-paint-code-358-9-3-a.html

http://media.collectorcarpricetracker.com/auction_data/2010/4/15/220590245125/220590245125.pdf

Definately there is a paint that Porache used on several cars - obviousky not many, but spanned a couple years. All seem to be he same silver-blue, but interestingly nobody can nail down a name, better yet a paint mix - so i can move on a repaint/restoration.

Here are the pictures of the paint as i found it today in the bonnet:
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http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1369109475.jpg

Thanks again for your help & any info you can come up with.

Dan

i called BASF again about your color to talk with the person who is in the know with things like this .
BASF also has no info on the color they have the color code listed but no name or forumla for it . so porsche did send it to BASF why or how the rest of the info was not handed over to BASF i don't know .
thank god this was the falt of the guy that i replaced at porsche and not me who screwed up by not documenting the info .
i have one more person i can call about this but it does not look good . the two places that should have the info does not . i'm going to call BASF HQ today and ask them to check back in the paper records that porsche would have sent them to see if they have any thing on the color .
but i think this code just fell thru the cracks ?
if the person that was putting together the list of colors used for that year missed of skipped over one color code then the color info would be lost and if it is or was a one year color and they skipped over it it's lost for all time .
at that point you can only color chip it and get a match that way you will still not have the name of the color but you would have a match to it .
if you have to do that you would have to go to the area BASF jobber (store) and ask them if you could use there color chips for a day or two and find a match . BASF has what are called color max chips they are spray outs done with real paint .
you could also have the jobber use the color camera to try and get a match that way but color cameras are only 70 % accurate . it may not be what you want to hear but if the info was lost it maybe the only way .

So far I have found 3 1974 911 owners with that color code and the 1977 930 sold a few years ago on ebay, in addition to my 1976.

So that is 5 cars over three production years... so, someone would have had to skip over it a few times. And interestingly, all seem to be a Silver-Blue.

I appreciate you loking into this via your contacts, I'm definately on a mission, to track down info on it not only for the repaint needed, but also just for historical reasons.......... would someone back in Stuggart be any assistance?

that who i called yesterday porsche AG for some years i was one of the dept heads of coating there .
that's were and how i have all the books and CD on the colors and codes how many cars each year were painted in what ever color they offered all the 99 , 999 or 9999 colors they did and so on .
i had nothing so i called my friend Jon and asked him if they had any info . i know the info would be the same as i have but i called any way .
today i called BASF HQ in europe and talked with them to see if porsche ever sent them the info and they have nothing at all too .
i have one other person i could call i will do that tomorow at some point .

Sounds like if anyone will be able to get any info, you are the one.

This may be a sad ending to my quest. :(

Thnx again for all your efforts,
Dan

no trouble i like doing things like this and if i can find it it will help out many people .
so i was talking to a old friend at BASF to night .
i will have to mix up a little amount of it but we did find a color code of 358 in the old archives with no match to any auto maker .
the name that goes with the color code is rauchen blau met. in english smoke blue met .
so it's under a german name with the same color code and it does fall in the same years from 1973 to 1978 .
now i'm not saying it's the same just found a lost auto maker to go with this color code at this point .
so don't get your hopes up !

Ill continue to feel like im at a dead end........ Until you tell me otherwise. You sleuthing may pay off.

On another note - the PO also made a comment that at somepoint he found that the original fuchs had once been painted body color --- woukd that have been done bybthe factory or ? Obviously I see several cars with body painted wheels - just didnt know if that was a factory option or done aftermarket.

And lastly - my 930 has white leather interior. Is that an odd option?

you could order the car with color coded wheels .
as for the white int. that was a little odd but there are some out there . you see more of them in the 1980's cars than the early ones .

the thing about this paint formula i found is it's in solvent based not water borne . can you get solvent base color any were in your area ?

I have an email/call into my body shop manager - will let you know what he says.

the paint formula i have is in GLASURIT 54 line that BASF started to phase out in the late
1980's .
So i can cross over some of the old tints to the newer 55 line system but one of the tints i can not and it's a black the old black tint was more of a gray black were the new 55 line tint #1250 is more of a blacker black .
there is also a coarse flake silver that is not a 100% match to the newer 55 line system .
the differents with that is the cut if the flake the old one was a square flake were the new one is round .

i will mix some up and then do a spray out that will tell me how it looks .

well, i think we both knew the answer. after speaking with my body shop manager, using a solvent based paint is a big no-no, a risk i wouldnt want to take in my own shop. doesnt mean, if that is the only way I can do it, i wouldnt find someone out of state (in Arizona) to do the job... let me know what you find out with the sample.

Any news?

it sure looks to be the color with that color code fits in the years porsche used it so i would say it's it .
the formula is a 54 line formula and even if it was a 55 line formula it still is no good if you live in a state were you can only spray water borne colors .
so it will have to be matched to a BASF color max chip in the 90 line formulas .
about 3 years ago porsche up dated there computer system at porsche . you used to be able to just take your vin number for any car call porsche and you cound get the color info . they have stopped that with the new system . the cost to transfer all the old data to the new system is not worth the cost .
the same thing holds true with BASF and having a formula in a new paint system . some of the colors are so unused they just dropped them from the up dated paint lines .

Here's another in that color. Not mine, but a '76 that I was looking at several years ago.
Funny thing, the paint code on the pillar was 358-9-3 but it's listed on the COA as Paint to Sample.

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i did find the color code in my porsche books but were is states units it should say how many were painted that year and were it states chassis it should say on what like a 911 or 930 and so on and it states 0 .
the color is also not listed as a year by year in numerical order it just skips over this number every year it was used . they ( porsche )stick it in with the 99 color numbers even though it's not a 99 color . in the 99 color info there should be the vin numbers that the color was used on and for this color # there are no vin numbers to go with the color code .
so don't think it's a 99 color because it's not what i think happend when some one was putting the color list together they skipped over that number for some reason and when they found it they just stick it in with the 99 color info having no were else to put it .