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Abby3.2Carrera 10-07-2018 12:27 AM

Paint crack on the inside of the rain gutter at bottom of A pillar, normal?
 
Hi Guys,
I found a 3.2 carrera that I'd like to purchase. the driver side rain gutter where it meets the bottom of the windshield has a paint crack on the inside. I have seen it on other cars, Is it normal?

below is a photo i found online showing the paint crack, the crack on my potential purchase is about 2-3 times of that length. Is this something I should worry about and anything I should check out before go ahead with the deal?

Car has mostly original paint except driver side front fender and rear quarter panel.

Thanks guys!

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1538901044.jpg

Harpo 10-07-2018 03:22 AM

Yea, I have one on my 74

David

Scbrindley 10-07-2018 05:14 AM

I have one in the same spot on my ‘89 (3.2). All original paint.

Dpmulvan 10-07-2018 05:32 AM

It should be fixed before the rust spreads. also why was the rear quarter and fender repainted? Accident?? Not deal breakers but I would investigate further.

RSBob 10-07-2018 06:50 AM

Yup, both sides of the 82. Treated with Rust Mort and then touch up paint.

ab1752 10-07-2018 06:53 AM

So that's definitely not normal. I'm here in town too, is this on offer by a local dealer? You should have that inspected as I think you will be into a rust repair for a few k bucks. Have them look in all the other areas prone to rust like behind the kidney bowls and front fender supports. There is what looks like a decent 87 Carrera in marine blue by a dealer that might be worth a look. Good luck.

RDM 10-07-2018 07:24 AM

If I understand the picture correctly, we're looking at the bottom corner of the windshield. Look here before you go further. These two posts in particular may be useful for your specific question, but I recommend the whole thread.

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/porsche-911-technical-forum/686953-why-windshield-trim-should-regular-maintenance-item.html#post7495474

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/porsche-911-technical-forum/686953-why-windshield-trim-should-regular-maintenance-item.html#post7720015

Paint doesn't crack for no reason.

Abby3.2Carrera 10-07-2018 08:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RDM (Post 10207966)
If I understand the picture correctly, we're looking at the bottom corner of the windshield. Look here before you go further. These two posts in particular may be useful for your specific question, but I recommend the whole thread.

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/porsche-911-technical-forum/686953-why-windshield-trim-should-regular-maintenance-item.html#post7495474

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/porsche-911-technical-forum/686953-why-windshield-trim-should-regular-maintenance-item.html#post7720015

Paint doesn't crack for no reason.


WOW. Thanks for the information! Further investigate is needed for sure!

Abby3.2Carrera 10-07-2018 08:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ab1752 (Post 10207931)
So that's definitely not normal. I'm here in town too, is this on offer by a local dealer? You should have that inspected as I think you will be into a rust repair for a few k bucks. Have them look in all the other areas prone to rust like behind the kidney bowls and front fender supports. There is what looks like a decent 87 Carrera in marine blue by a dealer that might be worth a look. Good luck.

Thanks! I will definitely have a ppi done now since that looks like a much better issue that i first thought. Car is from someone I know, not currently being advertised.

Abby3.2Carrera 10-07-2018 08:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Dpmulvan (Post 10207838)
It should be fixed before the rust spreads. also why was the rear quarter and fender repainted? Accident?? Not deal breakers but I would investigate further.

Thanks! Do you think the crack indicates the rust underneath for sure? There is no record on the paint of the rear quarter and front fender.

Abby3.2Carrera 10-07-2018 08:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Harpo (Post 10207785)
Yea, I have one on my 74

David

Thanks for the info!

Abby3.2Carrera 10-07-2018 08:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Scbrindley (Post 10207826)
I have one in the same spot on my ‘89 (3.2). All original paint.

Thanks for the info. do you mind take a pic if its not too much trouble.

RDM 10-07-2018 09:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Abby3.2Carrera (Post 10208018)
WOW. Thanks for the information! Further investigate is needed for sure!

You are absolutely welcome. You'll see later in that thread, or this one (http://forums.pelicanparts.com/porsche-911-technical-forum/988973-sc-windshield-targa-window-seal-replacement-trim-refinishing.html), that based on that information I replaced my 38-year-old windshield and Targa window seals. The seals were old, shrunken and cracking, but no symptoms like what you're seeing. Even so, I found rust in the bottom corner of the windshield and under the Targa window seal in the back (both on the passenger side).

What is the condition of the windshield seal? Pliable? Cracking?

pmax 10-07-2018 10:19 AM

If you are referring to the paint in the gutter, that spot has a thicker dollop of paint so minor cracks are not unexpected after 30 yr !
The GR is also single stage paint meaning no clear coat. The advantage of that is no peeling clear coat and easy to work on but the underlying paint is also more exposed to the elements.


http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1538936225.jpg

Abby3.2Carrera 10-07-2018 10:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RDM (Post 10208057)
You are absolutely welcome. You'll see later in that thread, or this one (http://forums.pelicanparts.com/porsche-911-technical-forum/988973-sc-windshield-targa-window-seal-replacement-trim-refinishing.html), that based on that information I replaced my 38-year-old windshield and Targa window seals. The seals were old, shrunken and cracking, but no symptoms like what you're seeing. Even so, I found rust in the bottom corner of the windshield and under the Targa window seal in the back (both on the passenger side).

What is the condition of the windshield seal? Pliable? Cracking?

Yea, i should look very closely for rust in that area, its also only showing crack on the driver side.
The windshield seal appear to be original and in good condition.

ab1752 10-07-2018 10:35 AM

Be sure to take it to someone who knows where these rust. Cracks like that which are more like voids aren't from body flex. That's rust coming from inside out so budget accordingly. Turn 3 should know how to properly ppis this car for body and mechanical.

ab1752 10-07-2018 10:36 AM

If you really wanted to compare cars PM me but I'm on the north shore with an 89 Carrera coupe

Abby3.2Carrera 10-07-2018 10:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pmax (Post 10208126)
If you are referring to the paint in the gutter, that spot has a thicker dollop of paint so minor cracks are not unexpected after 30 yr !
The GR is also single stage paint meaning no clear coat. The advantage of that is no peeling clear coat and easy to work on but the underlying paint is also more exposed to the elements.


http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1538936225.jpg

Thanks!
Yes, that's the area. The car I am looking at has a longer crack which spread higher into the gutter and showing a white line crack. paint is original on the roof and I think its original on the pillar too. I will have to take a photo on Tuesday and have you guys to take a look for me.

Abby3.2Carrera 10-07-2018 10:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ab1752 (Post 10208141)
If you really wanted to compare cars PM me but I'm on the north shore with an 89 Carrera coupe

Thanks! Appreciate the offer! I'd love to check out your car when i am in the area.

Abby3.2Carrera 10-07-2018 10:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ab1752 (Post 10208138)
Be sure to take it to someone who knows where these rust. Cracks like that which are more like voids aren't from body flex. That's rust coming from inside out so budget accordingly. Turn 3 should know how to properly ppis this car for body and mechanical.

Yea, further investigation is needed. The last 2 carreras I looked at both showing the crack. The one I am looking to buy has a longer crack which spread into a white line a couple inches further up the gutter. The 930 Turbo I looked at couple weeks ago didn't have the cracks however.


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