Jack Stand points-86 Carrera

[Gemballa2006]

I have looked and looked and I can't find any clear concise photos of where the jack stands actually go. Would someone with a similar model have photos of all four jack stand points. I have never put it up but I would like to so I can take all four wheels off for repainting. Thanks

[Formerly Steve Wilkinson]

I put my front jackstands under the torsion-bar tubes, as far forward as possible. Rear jackstands go under the short torsion-bar tube extensions into the rear wheel wells.

Photos will cost you $1.98 apiece, since my car is sitting on its wheels...

Be aware, however, that you can't just jack the car way up on one side and insert jackstands, then jack the other side way up without risking knocking everything off the jackstands. It takes a certain amount of caution and attention to what's going on.

[aj88cab]

Your Carrera has jack stand pads front and rear that you can also use to support the car. They are near the base of the wheel wells (at corners of the floor pan). You can use the factory jack but your best bet is to use a floor jack with a jacking pad that fits in the jack tube (our host sells one), lift each side and place the jack stands at the front and rear pads. Be very careful at the passenger side front jack stand pad because the oil lines are very close and you don't want to crush them.

[McLaren-TAG]

Never having done all four corners of the car, there's a hairy point once you get one side done, Is is supposed to just be a leap of faith that since we've got the car on one side up right (I'm using the torsion bar stub for the rear and the front of the a arm) that it will lift from the other side without slipping or falling down? I'm a noob and there's certainly a fear factor to overcome here and I guess once you know you've done it right the comfort level increases. I think I'm doing the right things, my floor is level, I have quality stands and I'm using the recommended points, it would just be nice to see it done so I know what level of sway or creeks or motion or rocking or sway is acceptable.

I'd love to see a video or a step by step pictorial as everything out there that I've come across makes a lot of assumptions.

[86 911 Targa]

Hope this helps.

[porwolf]

Having never put my 79 SC on jack stands and never raised it other than by the factory jack for the future I would like to know also how to do it safely. I am wondering, could I not put a hydraulic floor jack under the engine somewhere, raise the back and place two jacks under both rear torsion bar extensions. Then do something similar to the front. That seems to me to be a safe raising of the car with little chance of it falling off the stands.

[Autoban]

I have seen suggestions to lift the rear of the car by putting the hydraulic jack under the engine. As far as I remember the Bently stricktly says not to do it and I can see the point of not putting all the stress on the engine and transmission mounts. I lift my '86 Carrera Cabriolet using the jack pads sold by our host each side little by little and support the car under the front torsion bars in the very front and for the rear of the car I place the stands at the corners where the hydraulic lifts are supposed to go (see the red Xs in the drawing above).

Juergen

[redstrosekNic]

Originally Posted by porwolf

Having never put my 79 SC on jack stands and never raised it other than by the factory jack for the future I would like to know also how to do it safely. I am wondering, could I not put a hydraulic floor jack under the engine somewhere, raise the back and place two jacks under both rear torsion bar extensions. Then do something similar to the front. That seems to me to be a safe raising of the car with little chance of it falling off the stands.

Many people here do, but I won't jack my car up by the engine sump plate. I use the transmission cross-member. It's a bit tough to get the jack started because of clearance issues, but knowing for sure I won't hurt my engine is worth it. Be sure to get some wood to act as a cushion between the jack plate and the cross-member if you choose to go my route.

[McLaren-TAG]

Originally Posted by 86 911 Targa

Hope this helps.

I've gotten this and printed it out already. What would be helpful is to get a 1,2,3,4 or 1,1, 2,2 right side left side or front rear, whatever the best process is to get all four corners up.

[benjoys02]

Originally Posted by redstrosekNic

Many people here do, but I won't jack my car up by the engine sump plate. I use the transmission cross-member. It's a bit tough to get the jack started because of clearance issues, but knowing for sure I won't hurt my engine is worth it. Be sure to get some wood to act as a cushion between the jack plate and the cross-member if you choose to go my route.

would you happen to have a photo of what the transmission cross member looks like? i have a '67 with a 3.2 engine and i wouldn't want to take a risk raising the car using the engine as a jack point. thank you!

[winglesss]

This reply shows how I lift / support my 1986 911 Carrera Targa w/ 3.2 engine w/ a jack and jack stands.

It is super stable and secure.

[benjoys02]

thank you for your quick reply but what i'm actually looking for are photos or drawings that specifically show where to place a scissor jack underneath my 3.2 motor. is it by the engine crankcase and if so, where exactly? photos or drawings would really help.

i have read several articles mentioning the crankcase but i just want to make sure that i won't make a mistake and cause damage to the crankcase because i placed the jack in the wrong crankcase section.

[GH85Carrera]

Originally Posted by benjoys02

thank you for your quick reply but what i'm actually looking for are photos or drawings that specifically show where to place a scissor jack underneath my 3.2 motor. is it by the engine crankcase and if so, where exactly? photos or drawings would really help.

i have read several articles mentioning the crankcase but i just want to make sure that i won't make a mistake and cause damage to the crankcase because i placed the jack in the wrong crankcase section.

In the rear, if you look just under the torsion bar end, there is a flat part of the torsion bar mount. I use a hockey puck on top of the lift pad to avoid any interference with anything else. I bring the lift arm pretty much straight out so when the car is lifted, the suspension droop does not interfere with the lift arm.

In the front, I use a seam weld of the fender to the body. I bought the equivalent of a hockey puck, only it has a slot formed into it to go around the seam. Once again the puck is on top of the lift pad.

I have a Bendpack MD6XP scissor lift.


Front

Rear

[dnjvan]

Just spent two weeks under mine (89 911) on jackstands (replacing the entire air conditioning). Used the jack pad that slides into the square tube (a MUST for safe jacking):
https://www.pelicanparts.com/More_Info/SIC80400000.htm?pn=SIC-804-000-00&bc=c&SVSVSI=0602

... and then four good jack stands under the points as shown in the diagrams above. Very stable setup, and just enough room to work.

[PeteKz]

Since I'm frequently working under the rear, I put jackstands under the torsion tubes, toward the outer ends. These are tough, so you can put the jackstand pad directly under the tube and lower the car onto the stands. No need for rubber jacking blocks, etc. to protect the pinch welds and thinner sheet metal.

[winglesss]

Originally Posted by winglesss

This reply shows how I lift / support my 1986 911 Carrera Targa w/ 3.2 engine w/ a jack and jack stands.

It is super stable and secure.

Originally Posted by PeteKz

Since I'm frequently working under the rear, I put jackstands under the torsion tubes, toward the outer ends. These are tough, so you can put the jackstand pad directly under the tube and lower the car onto the stands. No need for rubber jacking blocks, etc. to protect the pinch welds and thinner sheet metal.

My rear stand placement is similar. I use the formed block, holding that tube, bolted onto the chassis.

Agree about the strength and stability and agree about not needing to use rubber pads.

[pmax]

Originally Posted by winglesss

I use the formed block, holding that tube, bolted onto the chassis.
...

Besides the shortened support base if anything shifts, isn't that "formed block" basically a cover plate for the bushing ?

[benjoys02]

Originally Posted by GH85Carrera

In the rear, if you look just under the torsion bar end, there is a flat part of the torsion bar mount. I use a hockey puck on top of the lift pad to avoid any interference with anything else. I bring the lift arm pretty much straight out so when the car is lifted, the suspension droop does not interfere with the lift arm.

In the front, I use a seam weld of the fender to the body. I bought the equivalent of a hockey puck, only it has a slot formed into it to go around the seam. Once again the puck is on top of the lift pad.

I have a Bendpack MD6XP scissor lift.


Front

Rear

thank you, glen! what i really need is a photo or illustration as to where exactly is the jacking point on a 3.2 liter engine itself. if it's at the sump, where exactly? by the drain plug? the center next to the drain plug? middle of the engine case?