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1991 C2 tried synthetic oil for first time Leaking like crazy

I will be doing an oil change soon. Going back to conventional. Should I go back to Castrol 20/50 or something like 10/30?

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it all depend where do you live-climate-wise. 20W50 is the best bet mineral.But i would at this time look where was the oil leak ..too.

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Same experience on my SC. Switched back to all mineral engine oil (20W50 Liqui Moly touring high tech) and it's bone dry now. Todays all mineral oils are not comparable to mineral oils those days. Yes, the choice of (engine and gearbox) oil is a matter of climate and operating conditions. Look what Porsche says in the manual:



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Synthetic oils require an elastomer stabilizer as additive not to shrink all elastomer/rubber based engine seals. All mineral oils does not need this as they refresh the rubber seals by nature. If the dose is too low (due to budget requirements) the seals shrink and engine tends to leaks... Truth is also: A refreshed and fresh sealed engine wont leak, no matter which oil is filled in.
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Which synthetic ?
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I will be doing an oil change soon. Going back to conventional. Should I go back to Castrol 20/50 or something like 10/30?
What brand and viscosity did you use ?

Where do you live?
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My last acquisition had active leaks when I bought it.
Drained the oil and noticed it was synthetic.
Went back in with Valvoline VR1 (zinc) 20W/50.
Bone dry now.
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What brand and viscosity did you use ?

Where do you live?
It was a 5w40 euro castrol . Had a small leak from left rear of engine before, but with the synthetic its is filling pans.
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I'm using Ecorsa 20/50 in my 3L and no leaks.
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Go to a thicker mineral oil
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How about this?

Valvoline VR1 Racing SAE 20W-50
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How about this?

Valvoline VR1 Racing SAE 20W-50
I only run VR1 20W-50 in my '86 930.
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I only run VR1 20W-50 in my '86 930.
Plus 1 for Valvoline VR1
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Plus 1 for Valvoline VR1
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Plus 2....same thing I run in my 86 Carerra.
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Plus 2....same thing I run in my 86 Carerra.
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tried some others in the past (Castrol, Mobil,...) and had super results with

Swepco 15W40, but because it was harder to get I switched to
Valvoline VR1 racing 20W50

happy customer, not gonna switch anymore
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It was a 5w40 euro castrol . Had a small leak from left rear of engine before, but with the synthetic its is filling pans.

1st rule is to get the viscosity right.
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I use the vr1 also.

Even my local auto parts store stocks it. It's easy to locate online also for reasonable prices.

I just replaced valve covers, triangle of death, oil cooler seals, new oil hoses, etc. All the gaskets and seals I could on my engine when the engine was out, when i pulled it for the clutch job. I have about 250 miles on it but no leaks.
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I could be wrong but the most current Porsche recommendation is Porsche Classic 10w-60w synthetic. 15w-50w for M1.

I use VR1
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Gents,

are you aware, that the VR1 20W50 is a high zinc oil with 1400ppm....? And that it's not recommended for catalytic converters?
https://www.valvolineglobal.com/en/vr1-racing-motor-oil-sae-40/

Of course with high zinc the engine benefits for wear. But as I suppose most of you still carrying a catalyst in your Porsches in the US this could go bad. If the cat is removed then its no problem of course...

E.g. the Liqui Moly Touring High Tech 20W50 I personally use contains about 1100ppm of zinc which is high enough for wear protection but not too high for catalysts.
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Same experience on my SC. Switched back to all mineral engine oil (20W50 Liqui Moly touring high tech) and it's bone dry now. Todays all mineral oils are not comparable to mineral oils those days. Yes, the choice of (engine and gearbox) oil is a matter of climate and operating conditions. Look what Porsche says in the manual:



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https://forums.pelicanparts.com/porsche-964-993-technical-forum/957141-0w-40-15w-50-mobil-1-a-2.html

Synthetic oils require an elastomer stabilizer as additive not to shrink all elastomer/rubber based engine seals. All mineral oils does not need this as they refresh the rubber seals by nature. If the dose is too low (due to budget requirements) the seals shrink and engine tends to leaks... Truth is also: A refreshed and fresh sealed engine wont leak, no matter which oil is filled in.
OK viscosity ...

Must be cold where the OP is.

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Gents,

are you aware, that the VR1 20W50 is a high zinc oil with 1400ppm....? And that it's not recommended for catalytic converters?
...
But as I suppose most of you still carrying a catalyst in your Porsches in the US this could go bad.
You mean going bad like this one from my '86 930?




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