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I spent about 5 min putting this table together this morning from memory. I'm not too up on racing, so I'm sure there are a lot of holes (I missed the Cayenne too). Maybe as a community, we could fill it in...
901 The Original 902 ? 903 ? 904 Racecar 905 ? 906 Racecar 907 ? 908 Racecar 909 ? 910 Racecar 911 Production Model (1963-1989) 912 Production Model 913 ? 914 Production Model (1970 – 1976) 915 ? 916 Racecar? (derived from 914) 917 Racecar 918 ? 919 ? 920 ? 921 ? 922 ? 923 ? 924 Production Model 925 ? 926 ? 927 ? 928 Production Model 929 ? 930 Production Model (Turbo Version of 911) 931 Production Model (Turbo Version of 924) 932 ? 933 ? 934 Racecar 935 Production Model (Slant-nose 911 derivative) 936 ? 937 ? 938 ? 939 ? 940 ? 941 ? 942 ? 943 ? 944 Production Model 945 ? 946 ? 947 ? 948 ? 949 ? 950 ? 951 Production Model (Turbo Version of 944) 952 ? 953 ? 954 ? 955 Cayenne 956 Racecar 957 ? 958 ? 959 Production Model (911 Derivative) 960 ? 961 ? 962 Racecar 963 ? 964 Production Model (911 C2/C4) 965 Production Model (Turbo version of 964) 966 ? 967 ? 968 Production Model (Next Generation 944) 969 ? 970 ? 971 ? 972 ? 973 ? 974 ? 975 ? 976 ? 977 ? 978 ? 979 ? 980 ? 981 ? 982 ? 983 ? 984 ? 985 ? 986 Production Model (Boxster) 987 ? 988 ? 989 Concept (4 door, V8) 990 ? 991 ? 992 ? 993 Production Model (911) 994 ? 995 ? 996 Production Model (911) 997 Production Model (911) Thanks to: magilla, layzee
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You missed the 910, the 934, the 956, 962, and probably a few others. (These are all racecars).
Good list to have, though. Hopefully others will contribute and help fill in the gaps.
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989 was a 4 door 928 prototype iirc? 965 - 964 Turbo Think 925 is 924 turbo also Last edited by layzee; 08-12-2004 at 05:54 AM.. |
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The 905 was not used because of Peugeot if i,m right, they claimed all numbers ending 05.
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Well … here is what I can add:
900 Parts designation for bulk hardware 901 The Original designation for the 911 902 The 912, 901 based with 616/36 4-cyl 903 Prototype automatic clutch transmission (’63) 904 Racecar Carrera GTL with 587/3 4-cam 905 Sportomatic based on a 901 transmission 906 Racecar The Carrera 6 with 901/20 engine 907 Racecar, basis 910 908 Racecar 8-clyinder 909 Hillclimb car 910 Racecar 911 Production Model (1963-1989) 912 4-cyl Production Model, the 12-cyl engine in a 917 913 Study for a 3-cyl engine (’68) 914 Production Model (1970 – 1976), Study for a 4-cyl engine (‘68) 915 Transmission ’72-’86, Study 4-passenger 911 (’68?) 916 ’72 914-6 2.4MFI 917 Racecar with Type 912 engine 918 5-speed transmission for 917 (’69) 919 Design study automatic transmission for 911 (PDK antecedent) 920 4-speed transmission for 917 (’69) 921 Study 4WD gas turbine sports racer 922 4-valve cylinder head for Type 912 engine 923 The 912E 924 Production Model 925 Sportomatic based on 915 926 Design study off-road car 927 4-valve cylinder head for Type 192 engine 928 Production Model, Study 4-valve flat 8-cylinder water & air cooled 929 Design “Turbo Sports Carrera” (’73) 930 Production Model (Turbo Version of 911) (’75-) 931 Production Model (Turbo Version of 924) 932 RHD 931 933 Airplane flugmotor based on 911, 928 brake mod for DP 924 934 Racecar Group 4 935 Racecar Group 5 936 Racecar Group 6 937 924 Carrera GT 938 924 Carrera GT RHD 939 924 Carrera GTP for LeMans 940 ? 941 ? 942 ? 943 tiptronic transmission 944 Production Model 924 with Porsche engine 945 944 RHD 946 924S 947 Mercedes Benz transmission 948 Study aluminum 928 949 4-valveturbo 944 LeMans “Boss GTP” (’81), 5-speed dog clutch trans. 950 G50 transmission 951 Production Model (Turbo Version of 944) 952 944 turbo S 953 Paris-Dakar 4WDrally car 954 911SC/R 2WD rally Carrera 955 Cayenne 956 Racecar Group C 957 ? 958 ? 959 Production Model (911 Derivative) 4WD 2-turbo 960 4-speed automatic transmission for 928 961 Race version of 959 962 Racecar IMSE version of 956 963 ? 964 Production Model (911 C2/C4) 965 turbo 964 966 Speedster 967 ? 968 Production Model (Next Generation 944) 969 Planned marketing number for 965 970 ? 971 ? 972 ? 973 ? 974 ? 975 ? 976 ? 977 ? 978 ? 979 ? 980 V-10 mid engine prototype (’00) 981 ? 982 ? 983 ? 984 Design study mid-engine sportscar 985 ? 986 Production Model (Boxster) 987 ? 988 ? 989 Prototype 4-door with 3.6 V-8 990 ? 991 ? 992 ? 993 Production Model (911) from 964 994 ? 995 Design FEDE front engine 3.0 V-8 aerodynamic 996 Production Model (911) water cooled successor to 993 997 Production Model (911) successor to 996 998 ? 999 Parts designation for DIN standard hardware Dr. Bill Block and I have been tinkering with this list since the ‘60s. If you want a copy in Excel format please e-mail me at gradyclay@hotmail.com with your e-mail address. It covers Porsche Type 7 through Type 3512 Arrows F1 3.5 V-10 and has references, dates, and more. I keep a copy in my Excellence Was Expected, 2ed. index. I’m sure there are more to be filled in. If you can, please include references, sources, etc. Best, Grady
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Wow, I like Grady's List better than mine!!
Grady: Items such as 925, does that define the a whole car, or just the transmission?
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Grady,
I am sitting here rubbing my chin from where my jaw dropped. That is one heck of a list. JFC
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Does 914/6 count ?
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963 was an RS version
942 was a 928 estate
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wouldn't the factory be able to fill in the missing numbers? if somebody asked them nicely? maybe via PCA?
also , what's the internal model designation for the Carrera GT? is that a 9xx number? can somebody check this in PET6? on flat6.net 966 is mentioned as a spyder race car http://www.flat-6.net/forum/showcar.php?do=overview&car_model_id=17
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i want one of those...
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Grady...wow...
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All of that info should be in the back of the 3rd book of the new set of excellence was expected.
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It scares me what happens after they use up 999. -Don B
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All I can find in PET6 for the carrera gt is m80.XX the 964 is designated as m64.XX so would this imply a carrera gt is a 980 or are we now talking 1080?
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987....new Boxster?
918...what did they call the two 914s with flat 8s made for the Doctor and his sister?
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Ed,
Peugeot protested that they used “0” as the middle number. Porsche changed 901 to 911 and 902 to 912 for the public. All the internal designations remained the same. VaSteve, The Type 925 designation referred just to the Soprtomatic transmission and the other parts of the car that were specific for using that transmission. Parts like the brake pedal, shift handle, etc. carry the 905/915 P/N. John, Thanks. Many others have compiled lists. I just tried to search with my MSN browser on “Porsche + Type + Number + Index” and didn’t find anything in the first few pages of the 42K listings. Suggestions? Don B, Actually a 914-6 is a Porsche Type 914. The body was manufactured, painted, and trimmed by Wilhelm Karmann GmbH in Osnabruck on a separate line from the four. The six was transported to Zuffenhausen for assembly by Porsche on the same line as 911s. You will notice the S/N of the car is 91443xzzzz, where x = 0 for a ’70, x = 1 for a ’71, and zzzz is the 4-digit sequential number. The S/N plate says “Porsche.” The serial number system was the same as the 911s of the day. A 914-4 is a VW-Porsche by VW-Porsche Vertriebsgesellschaft GmbH (VG for short) company which was jointly (50-50) owned by Dr. Ing. h.c. F. Porsche A.G. and Volkswagen A.G. The S/N on 914-4s is of the form 473544xxxxx for a ’75 914-4 2.0 5-speed North America Comfort Equipment. It is internally known as a Type 47. The S/N plate says VW-Porsche VG. Of course there is a lot more than this to the VW-Porsche saga. I owned the first 914 (a 4-cyl) in Colorado – before the dealers had seen one. Stijn, Can you clarify 963 & 942? I looked at that 966 link. Could that be a custom? It appears to be a 962 with open cockpit and an air-cooled 935 engine ca. ’83 or so. It could be a 956 with mods. This is what makes documentation of the Porsche numbers so difficult. K-Jetronic, You have some good ideas there. Can you find some Factory documentation or other source? mikez, Can you find a source? Guys, This subject has been researched by many. Can you find links to others’ works? Best, Grady
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942 can be found on flat-6.net
http://www.flat-6.net/forum/showcar.php?do=overview&car_model_id=132 The 942 a one-off concept car presented to Ferry Porsche by the company on his 80th birthday. Based on a 928, the car was basically custom made for him as a birthday surprise. Porsche sure knows how to handle birthdays doesn't it... The elongated 928 was tailored from a hatchback into a station wagon type coupe. Odd, but strangely appealing. The black headlights and rear seats add a nice touch. Only one is in existence, and is currently residing in the Porsche factory museum. the 963 single source, dunno the validity http://sumo.ebid.co.uk/perl/objects/auction.cgi?auction=1087745185-38231-0&mo=auction#pic
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For 987? The sales manager at the dealer showed me a memo....
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Grady,
I sware I have seen 914/6 used in publications. Was it just slang or misinterpretation? Moot point anyway since it is not a 3 digit number. -Don B
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