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I'm putting my guess in that this is an early 70's car that some one did a pan replacement with the current VIN stamp. Couldn't he just measure the wheels base?
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05-25-2005, 03:29 PM
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Sure, but you can covert SWB to LWB, so that won't really tell much. Also, that VIN area is not generally replaced with pans or due to rust problems. And if it was replaced, what happend to the original VIN. It should be on the front bulkhead and probably in the door. I'm starting to feel like this was a theft at one time. Nothing else seems to make sense yet.
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Maybe a salvage car that had a godd VIN grafted?
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05-25-2005, 03:45 PM
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So basically what I'm hearing is absolutely no good news for my re-sale value?? lol
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Could be a one -of - a- kind made by Porsche for body type testing purposes and not only extremely rare, but extremely valuable. In fact, you may be contacted directly to get this acr back for their museum.
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05-25-2005, 03:55 PM
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yeah....yeah, that sounds right! who wants to buy it before Porsche calls??? lol
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05-25-2005, 04:05 PM
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David Riley gave a very good rundown: here's what I would add to his list:
Headlights: LWB sugar scoops Targa bar: LWB louvers Ventilation system: LWB dual defrost boxes and blower Trigger style door handles: 70+ Black engine grill with recess for "2.4" logo- 72+ Steering wheel: LWB
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05-25-2005, 04:06 PM
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We've had Grandpa hammer in the family for 150 years - only replaced the head twice and the handle three times.
My bet is the front half and the back half of this car didn't meet at the factory. As for the other parts...the dash, door handles, rear glass (as opposed to soft window) could have changed over time and bit by bit. But if it's got a title, and your state doesn't require an extensive visual inspection, who cares what it started as. Make it what you want it to be.
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the emissions layout can provide clues...
what is your shift pattern? i.e. where is 1st gear? people on Early 911S registry bbs will know more info also.
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>Headlights: LWB sugar scoop
The '68s had the DOT sugar scoop headlights too. Can anyone tell if that horn grille opening is from a SWB or LWB? Looks to me like a LWB as well. The ONLY thing about this car that isn't LWB is the VIN!!! OK, Nemesis, did you remove the knee bar (the lower part of the dash) and look for the VIN underneath just to the right of the glove box door? It will be printed on the underside so you have to crane your head upside down. Perhaps there was some misunderstanding there... |
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05-25-2005, 04:19 PM
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yes, checked under knee pad, head "craned" and all
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Picts or mpeg of the "crane" process please. I'm assuming it is not the same as the "karate kid" crane.
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05-25-2005, 04:46 PM
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actually, I did the less elegant and more dirty version of the crane which involves laying on the floorboard with a flashlight
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Okay, I should've checked this earlier, but upon closer inspection of the plate in the front trunk (near the smuggler's box) it is welded on. The old peice was cut out. I could only tell from underneath they did a good job of welding on top.
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05-25-2005, 05:09 PM
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>Okay, I should've checked this earlier, but upon closer inspection of the plate in the front trunk (near the smuggler's box) it is welded on.
Yay! Mystery solved. It really was a chop shop job! Judging by the dash, guages and warning lights, and lack of an oil filler flap, you have a '73 911 Targa. If only the car could tell its own story...I bet it's led an interesting life. 
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I'd say a 73, also.
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Hello folks, this car is a 1973 Targa. your number on the dashboard says it. here are alink to check it. sorry it is in german language, please use a translating program. http://www.elferhelfer.de/fzident/prodnr.htm[/B]
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Look at it on the good side! The owner now knows what year it is to order parts, and being titled as a 1966, he avoids smog checks in most states!
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05-27-2005, 07:55 AM
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Great job Jens! Is there ANY mystery that a Pelican can't solve?
This board is simply amazing.It would be cool to run a history of the 911 VIN number (do you know what state is came from?) to see if the theft was ever recovered, or if it went through life as a hot car. BTW...this car is now listed in the For Sale Forum. |
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