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taming loud exhaust
I've got a Fabspeed Euro premufler in place of the original cat., and a Dansk 1-in-2-out on my '87 3.2.
While I like the sound, at highway speeds and when I get high in the rev range, it is just plain too loud. I also think I may be giving up some mid-range HP in favor of high-end performance with 2 large open pipes. I've thought about a cap on one side, but I think it would be interesting to put in an electric exhaust cut-out valve to close off one side except when I want it open. Has anyone seen an exhaust cutout valve that needs only a bare minimum of straight pipe, or is suitable for putting onto a curved pipe? I ask because the outlet pipes from the muffler are a sort of S-curve with no real straight section. I'm also open to alternate suggestions (baffles?), but I would like to keep this muffler. |
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after reading your bumper mod post I was going to ask how you like the muffler....guess this answers that
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I do like the muffler, but above 3200 rpm or so I'm just a bit paranoid about attracting the attention of those who protect and serve if I'm unable to restrain my right foot in a quiet neighborhood.
If I plug one side, the sound level drops by 10 - 12 dB. Interestingly, plugging the passenger-side pipe had a larger effect. I do fondly remember an informal "show me what you've got" run with my car and a 427 Cobra repro on a local franchise freeway. The sound from both of our cars was great. |
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I have a similiar issue. I have a straight cat by pass with a B&B 1 in /2 out and man is it ever loud. it truly sounds like a big block with open headers..! I'm looking to either add a premuffler, or getting one made from a magnaflow or something. How much will installing a premuffler quiet it down?
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rattlsnak,
The premuffler is quieter than a straight -tube cat bypass, but I didn't measure by how much. My "seat of the pants" feel is that the difference was not as significant as I had hoped. |
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I capped one side of a m & k and it helped a lot....funny worked best on drivers side. Electric valves I have seen were pretty large...
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thats what i figured... Did you have a straight tube first as well and then added the premuffler?
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I have an elektric cut out on my 2-out system. It reduces the noice nicely when needed.
Installed: ![]() ![]() ![]() Offcourse it cuts dow on the power a bit, but when just cruising it doesnt bother me that much. And with flick of the switch you have the full roar available
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Jakas,
That is what I am looking to do! I figured someone in this creative group had done it. It is, unfortunately, kind of hard to tell the mounting and dimensional details from the photos. Do you have a sketch or drawing with some basic dimensions available? I'm thinking that you made some measurements to get the pipe cut & welded. What type of muffler did you start with, and what size valve are you using? My pipe appears to fall between the valves made for 3 and 3.5 inch pipe. -------------------------- Rattlsnak, Yes, I did try the straight pipe - a "test pipe" it was called - and it was maybe a bit louder with that than with the Fabspeed premuffler. More importantly, changing from the pipe to the premuffler changed the tone by making it a bit less "tinny" and it seemed to eliminated a resonance. ------------------------------- Dublinoh, Yeah, I thought of a cap, and that is probably what I'll do if I can't make anything else work out, but I like the idea of flipping a switch to open up the closed pipe. ------------------------------- Thank you all for your inputs. Last edited by dw1; 01-02-2012 at 08:01 AM.. |
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I have quite simple exhaust. Its basically 993 headers + 993 cat + 2x2,5" 90 degree SS angles
![]() I used 2,5" valve from raceready performance. Allready broke one last summer, and the warranty did not cover for is. I didn´t do any exact measurements. I just put the two flanges on the pipe to find the best spot for the valve. ( The fit is really thight as you see in the pics) Then i spot welded the flanges on the pipe, cut it and tested the fitment. When the fitment was ok, it was time for final welding.
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Ben. of M&K muffler fame, used to have a short, perforated stainless steel sleeve that fits into either side of the exhaust tailpipe. This is not a cap, but rather a sleeve that changes tone and DBs just enough to possibly take care of the problem. It requires a small hole being drilled on the underside of the tailpipe and is secured with a sheet-metal screw, easily removable quickly and without getting dirty. I had a complaint similar to yours on my old system. It doesn't make it whisper-quiet by any stretch of the imagination, but it takes that "edge" off at higher rpms. You can use a sleeve on one side or both, depending on your tastes. Give him a call......it may be the answer to your issue. And, it's sure less complicated than an electric cut-out.
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Those are probably C&C inserts. They are used commonly with the 993 crowd on fab speed super cup exhausts. I had them also. They did work well. They would have to mount in the test pipe or premuffler though if you have short exit pipes.
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