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Don't pull too hard on the strap, I've had the plastic tab on the airbox break off - fun.
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Given that the Weltmeister straps seem to be 2/3 of the price of a genuine strap from Porsche, is it worth the hassle of buying them and having them break after a few years? Isn't that more expensive in the long run?
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Pelican shows three strap choices:
URO - $4.25 O.E.M. - $12.50 ---- Weltmeister $19.99 The O.E.M. is a bit misleading - not really OEM it seems. I had never seen the Genuine article until I poked around. In the "more info" screen there is a window for the Genuine Porsche choice for $30.75. Perhaps that will be my next strap.
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See the post above yours, & my post about breaking the air box.
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If you can get the da#m thing on, Havng the cheapie last a few years, even more bunk. Why sell crap??? chris |
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This strap situation has not gotten less irritating. It has become my most frequent maintenance issue short of filling with fuel and cleaning the windshield. I have gone through all of these straps. These all broke while in place after 6-12 months of use. Pelican has comped one of the Weltmeisters - I don't want to abuse the privilege now that I know the reality. I'm down to one that seems like an old, likely "real" replacement. Why would I buy these $5-22 parts knowing that they fail and end up somewhere in the engine bay.
Does any one have a better real replacement? ![]() The genuine Porsche is $30.75 Pelican Parts - Product Information: 911-110-365-01-OEM
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I've never broken a genuine Porsche strap...
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Me either. My genuine Porsche straps look perfect after years of use. Cheapest way to go.
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I bought a pair of Weltmeister straps as the black ones that came with the car (not sure if OEM) looked stretched and cracked
I also broke a tab off the airbox while trying to install it - not fun at all! about 6 weeks later one of them snapped, I was buying other gear and mentioned it in a message, got a free replacement, 2 weeks later the other one broke, so I got that replaced too. In the mean time I went back to using my old straps. Now I have 2 brand new Weltmeister straps which im not sure about using and might look at selling them locally Being in NZ, everytime I need anything from Pelican it's at least USD60-70 for shipping, which makes cheap parts expensive
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After going through all of the above issues, I stumbled upon this solution: wife bought some kind of "moon walk" shoes for one of the grandkids 7-8 years ago. Had a large package of these large rubber bands (for lack of a better term) that stretched across this large plastic shoe frame tennis string style.
The last time one of the air filter box straps broke I saw the bag of these and voila, perfect fit and they hold the box down very well. After 2 or so years the rubber starts showing small cracks so I throw them away and put two more on. ![]()
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What do you guys do if you break a tab on the air box? Rubber band trick might work?
When i bought my 911 last Oct the straps were really cracked, got some new black ones from Pelican and one of the old ones actually broke wile I was taking it off so I got the new ones just in time. While I put on the new ones I broke one of the lower tabs on the air box! boooo. Currently running on 1 strap for now.
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Jack! I just wantet to post the idea of a home-made solution when I saw your picture.
Exactly what I thaught of. Perfect!
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my new airbox tab is two cable ties
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Nothing much to add to this other than just a data point. I've been running the Weltmeister straps for 5 years now with zero issues.
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I replace my flabby ones 10 years ago at 100,000 miles with the black ones on Pelican, now at 130,000 miles they are still taut.
Guess I was lucky and got the right size.
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I get by with one bungee cord diagonally. Looks crappy, but holds the cover on just fine, and won't be expensive to replace when it looses its bunge.
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I think there is some confusion about OEM vs OE
OEM is nothing special .. it is just made by the same manufacturer that makes them for Porsche . Doesnt mean they are made to the same specifications and usually are not. OE is made to a very specific standard and has the customers ( porsche in this case ) p/n and/or logo on it. ( this is what you buy at the dealer ) Just because it is listed as OEM does not necesarily mean it is to the same standard as an OE part.. That said I have noticed over the last few years rubber parts not lasting nearly as long. I am wondering if i has anything to do with a WW rubber shortage and therefore high cost , new polymers are just not up to snuff. I am noticing this also with CV boots. Where your original lasted 30 years or so , you migh be lucky if your replacement lasts 5-10.
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That's why I buy my CV boots from JC Whitney. They sell a universal boot. You trim on the pleats needed for your application. I've not kept careful track, but am pretty sure they aren't cracking/tearing the way the more rubber-like ones are.
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This solution has been hanging 8 ft from the engine bay unused for 8 years. Works well - easy install. Thanks for suggestions, clarifications and tales of strap deterioration. It is nice to know I am not alone.
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This looks like bling compared to what I did.
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Weltmeister straps are not elastic at all.
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