Pricing help please: '85 coupe
 

Currently looking at a very cherry stock blk/blk carrera coupe with 66k miles. Interior is in nearly new condition. Outside is about an 85/100 (90/100 after the crease is massaged out from decklid). Has a whaletail too. Solid mechanically. IYO, What would be a fair price for a car of this caliber? Thanks in advance,

Kurt

PS: almost went to the darkside before findimg this car!! :D (hint: giallo)

Before people jump all over you again Pleco, here's a link to the values as posted by excellence magazine.:
Excellence :: Buyers Guide : 911: 1974-89
If it's in that range and you want it, get it. :)
Make sure you click on the "behind the numbers" link to see where these numbers come from.
Good luck.

I am not in the market, but those prices are too high for my taste. Maybe that is why I am not in the market...

Pay too much for it, you won't regret it

Sounds like a beaut!
From what I've seen, it takes a LOT to get something nice for less than 15k-20k. For low miles, original and great mechanicals with records - I'd guess nothing less than low 20's private party. High end should be defined by the 'premium' retailers.
What I've seen with Truspeed seems like great stuff, but I have no basis for an opinion of actual quality. That should define the upper bound.

I just bought a similar condition car, 50k miles, 2 owner, 1984 coupe with whale tail for $24k. I think I got a fair deal, no regrets at all. I'd rather over pay for a good car than get a cheaper car with more unknowns, etc. Plus the PO was a true car guy who took extremely good care of the car so that was of big importance to me.

I walked away from several cars just based on my phone conversations with the owner.

Well, it wouldn't be the right car for me because a.) I won't buy another black car (ever), and b.) I don't place as much premium on low miles (over well documented maintenance) as some people do.

That said, and allowing for the fact that my preferences do not rule the market, if the car is documented and truly clean and straight, I can't see you getting into it for less than very high teens at best. More probably $20-25k. This is assuming that the paint is good enough that you can live with it as-is for a time. If you are going to need to paint it to be happy with it, deduct several k.

Thanks very much, gentlemen! The owner is asking $25k- hoping to talk him to $22-23k.

Btw, I still am in the hunt for the proper sc, but have taken the great advice by a few of u guys to buy another type now and find my ideal later.

Thanks again brothers! K

those prices are way too high. I just sold a 'very well sorted' 84 model for a LOT less than that.

an 85 model should sell for @ 17ish at best..

Was wondering how long until he could not resist and posted a "what is this worth" thread.

Don't worry...just looking...

Let me guess... price too high..mechanic said run away....seller unreasonable...car not as good as advertised....7 years of excuses and no end in sight.

a 66K mile Carrera in really clean shape is WELL WORTH $25K. 110K cars with G50s trade for around $20K, and to buy a car with FIFTY thousand less miles is worth something. But I put NO stock in mileage on a nearly THIRTY year old car. Mechanicals are important but we focus on that far too much here- Cosmetics can also be very expensive and EVERYONE knows when your car is cosmetically bad. You can drive a car with slightly higher than normal leakdown for years and enjoy it, but faded, scratched paint, worn, dirty carpets and ripped cracked leather will affect you every time you get in the car.

Anyone looking for an 80s 911 should be able to find a car within one month in the USA. Period.

I paid $10K for a '77 8 months ago. 165K miles, cosmetically good, I get compliments all the time on the looks. I enjoy the ride though I'm sure a 3.0 or 3.2L would be more fun.

Mine's black, what's wrong with black?

If the mechanicals are good and the PPI checks out, deduct what a bodyshop would charge for removing the crease from his asking price, and offer that amount.

Then drive it, you silly fish!

Nothing , apart from it shows the dirt & scratches more than other colours. That , and people will assume you're B.A.D. Esp if windows are blacked out too!

lmao, thanks

Thanks for your opinion on price.

If I recall history of your search accurately, this meets nearly all of your criteria. For a ~30 year old car, 66K is nothing. And remember, as they get driven there will be fewer and fewer of the lower miles P-cars available that meet your specific needs. And I can't believe prices for them will decline.

My advice -- worth what you paid for it -- is pull the trigger, even if it means $24-$25K. Don't let $1K-$2K pull you away from a car that otherwise would make you incredibly happy, especially since you've been searching so long for it. It sounds like you've been searching now for what, 5+ years? $2K over that time really amounts to what, about $8.00 a week? I spend more than that on coffee, and I enjoy my Carrera infinitely more . . . .

Good luck Pleco

Pull the trigger

Holding out good thoughts for you, brother.

FWIW, the differences between an '82-83 SC and an '85 Carrera are few, and almost all in favor of the Carrera, IMO.

Which is exactly why I bought a Carrera instead of an SC, like Mr. Zimmerman recommended in his book. :)

You're welcome. I thought you might like that comment. :P

BTW, that SC I was going to look at for you was sold before I even called the guy.

:eek:

I agree 100%, and that was a huge part of why I paid what I did for my car.....almost mint paint, never seen rain, all seals look brand new, leather is almost brand new, etc, etc. A new quality paint job plus new seals would put you at easily $5k. My 84 has better paint than my 2006 Lexus, and I am a detailing fanatic so that says a lot.

Plus not to mention I've never had a repaint done in my life that I was satisfied with, so I'd rather not even have to bother with a body shop.

Good luck with your purchase!

IMO, $25K sounds right for the car as you've described it. As said easier, don't let $1-2K keep you from pulling the trigger. I also don't give as much value to low mileage; on these cars, which can go forever, the maintence history is more important. Nick

I think you've gotten all the advise you need, just remember that value is completely different than price and different folks will reach a different decision based on their wants and needs. So if you're comfortable with it, that's the only thing that matters. I paid 17,500 for an 86 Coupe that some would have run away from because it needed a paint job head to toe. The PO had done 33k worth of documented work and performance upgrades to the car over his stewardship of it. Someone else may not have been happy with it, but I walk away from it with an ear to ear smile after every drive.

You all know he's not buying a 911- right?

This is the same pattern he's done for nearly a decade on Pelican- ask if a car is worth the money, if it is then it invariably fails the mythical PPI or gets sold out from under him or somehow vanishes.

Again- NOT a buyer. No test drives, no offers, no PPIs, nothing. Just endless stroking.

It's worth what it's worth to you. If you feel you're getting value for money then other people's opinions don't matter much at all. You are a long-time Pelican member and you know how to find comparables as well as anybody else on this board.

I bought my '85 (120K miles, GP white on black, no tail) for ~$14K in 2010. It has original paint in good shape, a very nice interior bar driver's bolster, and it is mechanically sound per comprehensive PPI performed at the time.

I think that today this is a high-teens car and I don't think $25K for a 66K miler is too far out of line at all. If it's the right car it will speak to you. Go drive it and get a PPI.

Good luck and go get your car.

d.

Thanks flat six! :) emailed the owner and sounds good so far. Gonna ppi it on monday. So far so good... let u know soon, regards

Kurt

Good to hear, Arne! Thanks again.

Go for it and enjoy while we still have gas for under $10/Gallon:cool:

Funny. I was in contact with him and he said someone was coming over to look...thought it was u...then he said the guy bought it... i thought to myself in a bitter tone: "Silber!" :)

Thank u guys very much! Ppi is on monday. Will keep u posted :)

Regards,

Kurt

LOL!

I wasn't kidding about the wife's one-Porsche limit. I like the one I have, and even though the one I was going to look at for you was a nice color combo and looked like a decent deal, there's no way I'd swap.

how many total Whats it worth thread has this guy started ???

almost a thousand posts already and still no car .....

What's your purpose in posting this?

Until you are actually driving in your own 911, people are going to make comments. Especially after 5+ years of this same pattern.

I'm a relative n00b here, so I have high hopes. :)

just sayin ... kinda like a guy that's been engaged for 7 years .....

Pleco,

Good luck with the PPI! Having owned both an SC and Carrera, you won't be disappointed with the '85.

I would consider that man to be very wise.

I think his purpose is to inform those who don't know... that you are not in the market for a 911.

PPI on Monday? Nonsense. No such thing is happening.

Post some pictures of the car and a link. Who's doing the PPI? Let us know will you please?

Most people search for 3, 4 or even 6 months for the right car because they have a very limited budget and cannot afford the better cars- You claim to have a budget just shy of THIRTY GRAND- and 7 years of this identical circle-jerk posting and no car.

So.. prove it. Post the link, post the photos, post the PPI results. Let's see it.

NOBODY in America cannot find a suitable 80's 911 with a THIRTY THOU budget. Throw a dart at the $30K cars out there and you'll hit a great car that ill provide decades of service. Got $8,000 to spend...might take some more time.

What are you looking to derive from your post, or what benefit do u get out of doing so? How does this impact your (or anyone else's) life in a positive way? I'm curious of your motivation.

Actually, many of us are wondering the exact same thing about you. :rolleyes:

There isn't anything in this thread that hasn't already been asked and answered many times in many of your previous threads.
Personally, I think you just like the attention.

Personally I've enjoyed following Pleco's hunt for a car. After 5 months of looking myself, I'm eager for the finish. But Pleco's adventure, real or otherwise, has obviously been an activity of interest or he wouldn't still be after it.
Its worthwhile for him, its amusing for me, it seems to vary between interesting to odd to fun for most on this board. If you're feeling like a party-pooper I'm sure there is a thread somewhere here with an engine fire. Me? I'd personally rather read about a sweet '85 and mull over what it should go for.

There's enough forum for everyone and we're all a little odd in our own ways.