Think I just got scammed by Smokey Auto sales in Florida?

[Ronnie's.930]

^^^

Here is a link to the listing noted above by rse64.

https://eastky.craigslist.org/cto/4897325558.html

And a pic captured from the listing -




And the listing text -

1967 Porsche 912 Targa - $28900 (Kentucky) "The body is smooth and sleek and shows fantastic, and the rear isen glass window is crystal clear. The top comes down easily with a simple unzipping of the vinyl. The wheels have been upgraded to the rare and desirable 6×15 Fuchs wheels wrapped with 165R15 tires.The seats are basket-weave black leatherette and come with the optional leatherette headrests. Other options on this car are the loudspeaker, tinted windshield and raised steering wheel hub. Under the bonnet, the engine is a flat four-cylinder 1,582 cc (engine No. 1280965) mated to a four-speed manual gearbox (No. 1281049) in the rear transaxle. With dual Solex twin-choke carburetors, independent MacPherson strut front suspension with torsion bars, independent rear suspension and four-wheel hydraulic disc brakes, this is a clean-running roadster.
for more information call or mail"

[rse64]

But now he's changed his name... Bet he's got a new "dealership"... From the contact info on the ad:
contact name:Billi;
contact by phone: ☎ 5123331645
jpc3k-4897325558@sale.craigslist.org

I've seen "Billi" post other Porsches in other states. There was a 911 in Fresno last month. This must be a huge phishing scam that is run on multiple levels.

I'm going to leave it alone and let jittsl work this w/ his legal support and law enforcement.

[rse64]

And running the add in Toledo OH; post id: 4907022387.
Seller contact info is
contact name: Dylan
contact by phone: ☎ 3232875843
reply by email: s687c-4907022387@sale.craigslist.org

This is out of hand!

[19-911-65]

WOW...so sorry, this is crazy!

[jac1976]

So Billi has an Austin number now?

[jac1976]

Phil Collins may have said it best:

Billy, Billy don't you lose my number
'Cause you're not anywhere
That I can find you
Oh now Billy, Billy don't you lose my number
Cause you're not anywhere that I can find you, oh no

Searching through the day and into the night
They wouldn't stop till they found him
They didn't know him and they didn't understand
They never asked him why
'Get out of my way'
They heard him shout
Then a blinding light
Ooh all I could see was him running down the street
Out of the shadows and into the night

[dad911]

I doubt he is in the country.

Good plan, keep flooding our inboxes with obvious scams, so the good scams look legit.

[Mike Fitton]

Originally Posted by dad911

I doubt he is in the country.

Good plan, keep flooding our inboxes with obvious scams, so the good scams look legit.

+1 Your money went overseas. Mark Mosely or any of the other names and businesses were used to divert attention to a known scammer. Pretty good idea scan the internet looking for known scammer names to use! Do we know which branch of BofA the funds were wired to? Any business names or individual names are either made up or gathered from an internet search. Only recourse is with BofA and hopes that they didn't get the required info for opening the account the money transferred to.

[Eli W]

I would file a lawsuit so quick against Bank of America, it would make your head spin. They are adding and abetting criminal activity. They know where the money went and they should be held responsible for not being more forthcoming on the matter.

Unfortunately this is what happens when a market is red hot.

[Lapkritis]

5123331645 - Bandwidth.com
3232875843 - bandwidth.com

These are both internet phones just with a skype competitor.

***OP - ADD THESE LINES AND THIS COMPANY TO THE INVESTIGATION***

[Lapkritis]

Story has spread to the VWVortex. They're providing more information as well... unless this is the guy operating the legitimate business at the same address:

Click the link:
Detail by Entity Name

Looks like we might have someone in the flesh in Lake Mary, FL.

Detail by Entity Name

Florida Profit Corporation SMOKEY DEALS, INC.
Filing Information Document NumberP04000137476 FEI/EIN Number201700493 Date Filed10/04/2004 StateFL StatusACTIVE

Principal Address 701 S. FRENCH AVENUE
SANFORD, FL 32771


Changed: 04/04/2006
Mailing Address P. O. BOX 952229
LAKE MARY, FL 32795-2229

[BayPawn]

I just googled the two phone numbers and the 512-333-1645 number lists a Harley V-Rod and a Honda Gold Wing for sale on CycleTrader.

[puddy]

Wow this whole thing is getting crazy!

[Lapkritis]

When you reverse search the sunbiz link owner name/president, you find a radaris profile and picture of a real person from google+. His phone is an AT&T landline with his real name as caller id. His name is a different ethnicity than the "accounts receivable" people so quite likely they were using his business name just like they were using photos. Either that or this is just about case-closed.

[McLovin]

Ok.

[Lapkritis]

McLovin - I might pull his name out until involvement is determined. No use ruining the guy if he's innocent.

[COLB]

The fact that this is so elaborate makes it less likely the scammer is going to abandon the spiderweb he has built.

This could be a vulnerability.

This guy obvious thinks he has built enough cutouts into the con that he can keep running it nationally even after burning a number of people, and getting called out in forums.

[ScottT80]

I'm sorry to hear you got taken. Pretty low person to do this.

Honestly doesn't sound that elaborate... a few phone numbers, a bank account, pics of someone's car, and a helper to verify from the PPI shop.

I feel Bank of America is at partially fault here. You transferred from an account there to another account at BoA. They have more info on the account, transfers in or out, etc.

Had you contacted the PPI shop sooner you may have known the car never showed up there. They aren't at fault, but with $30k on the line I wouldn't worry much about posting a name up or getting on the phone with them. With it never physically being there, the guy didn't have to 'borrow' the car for a PPI.

I found some books and manuals here on the forum I wanted few months back cheap... it was a scam. In the process of discovering this I ticked a couple of other members off 'beating them to them' so to speak. Thankfully I didn't fall for it but it angers me that even on here we have that problem. Most everyone on here are pretty honest and decent guys.

[rse64]

I think this article from last year shows the reach of these criminals and some insight into how they work.

Europeans recruited for Internet schemes in Florida - Orlando Sentinel

For the OP - there are some names of local authorities - FBI and Orange CO Sheriff - that may be of use in getting law enforcement involved (if they are not already actively involved).

[COLB]

Check this pic out:



It looks like the building at 701 S French Street used to be Smokey Truck & Auto Sales. It appears to be currently listed for lease here:


701 S French St, Sanford, FL, 32771 - Vehicle Related Property for Lease on LoopNet.com

The google map street view may be a new business currently occupying the space:

IRR Auto Sales Incorporated
(321) 279-3146

Established 2013

http://www.manta.com/c/mtr6fxw/i-r-r-auto-sales-llc?ftoggle-frontend-prod-on=abTests.engagement.claim_drivers_d&utm_expid=82789632-35.5hBunVVLRam7e9B6_xvwKA.5&utm_referrer=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.google.com%2Furl%3Fs a%3Dt%26rct%3Dj%26q%3D%26esrc%3Ds%26source%3Dweb%2 6cd%3D7%26ved%3D0CEIQFjAG%26url%3Dhttp%253A%252F%2 52Fwww.manta.com%252Fc%252Fmtr6fxw%252Fi-r-r-auto-sales-llc%26ei%3DkmjvVMzhNoHtgwTfrYSQAQ%26usg%3DAFQjCNG2 teSy_FTL2ieKfBR6DHCZyRRIfQ%26sig2%3DJ7MrOWaBxAMWPu oRnBgmQg

Here, a different person is listed as the Principal for IRR Auto Sales:

http://www.buzzfile.com/business/I.R.R.-Auto-Sales-LLC-321-279-3146