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M and K 1 in 1 out -- benefits?
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I am installing a SW Chip and M and K premuffler on an 85 3.2. Anyone have experience and pros or cons to the M and M 1 in 1 out? Deciding whether or not to do the lighter muffler or keep the stock one in place. Thanks |
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I have a 1978 SC. Brian is well regarded on this site, and he has always been forthcoming with my queries. From my understanding weight will be reduced, throatier sound. 1 in 1 out should not have resonance issues. Midrange torque curve may or not be affected but that is a question for Brian and he will be forthcoming. Whats your goal? Exhaust mods on a 3.2 do not generally produce performance gains without internal modifications.
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I didn't notice any real performance gain with mine, but it sounds really good with no resonance and is considerably lighter than the factory muffler.
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Had a Bursch on my car so can't compare to stock, very happy with the M&K setup. Running both the 1 in/out and the pre muffler. No drone at all on the highway, it's the right level of loud too. weight savings is always a plus aswell, especially on the rear end.
Downside is it's not cheap, but if you browse the classifieds resale is high and always in demand. |
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I have the exact setup you are contmplating on my '86.
Recent dyno run on my car revealed 241 crank HP which is about as good as it gets with a chip/sport muffler. Just participated in a Drivers Skill class and received many compliments on the exhaust song. Like the best in the whole group of cars. Also great build quality for M&K stuff. |
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Great sound, lightweight, well made, more HP at WOT, softer mid range (move your sweet spot into higher rpm).
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Jeff - -that may be all the endorsement I need
I will pull the trigger, plus when swapping the exhaust I can pull the AC bracket and maybe even those pesky bumperettes while I'm in there ![]() Uh-oh -- I see a little slippery slope ahead!! |
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You may want to reconsider removing the bumperettes. I was mildly rear ended on the freeway, without a jot of damage thanks to them. Guess it depends; I drive my car almost all the time; some folks go the garage queen route so it doesn't matter as much.
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Yeah Jeff - - that's something I would be wise to consider -- I drive my car almost daily in and around Toronto in the summer and the 14lbs of bumperette could save me a lot if hassle.
First world choices |
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100 lbs. = 10 hp......the old hot rod maxim.
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I am doing a steel backdate on my 1985 stock California car, and the original muffler interfers with the center panel and looks ugly:
![]() Does anyone know if the M&K would sit higher and tuck up under better? Is it smaller diameter? Mike |
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If you are getting a SW chip call and ask him. I did and found his advice very sound. He is a great guy.
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I love mine. I can't speak for the 3.2 motor but for the 3.0 it feels like it opened up the top end and really sounds amazing.
Here is a quick sound clip of when I first installed the muffler and cat-bypass: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vQ0L8N7P8zI
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M&K vs stock muffler
![]() I swapped out the stock muffler for the M&K 1/1. To me it is just the sound I was after. Ken |
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Two of the best upgrades you can buy.
Pop in a cat bypass and you're happy all around.
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kkkarpuk, will you post a picture of it installed? I am curious how it tucks up underneath.
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Installed
![]() Not a great pic but it's all I have now at work! |
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Im about to install mine, 1/1 m&k and a custom beautifully made pre muffler.
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Thanks kkkarpuk. From that angle it is hard to tell. When you get a chance, would you please take a picture from an angle similar to mine above? I would appreciate it.
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Gladly get at it tonight after work.
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