Re-designed New URO Windshield Seal Review
 

Further to a recent thread http://forums.pelicanparts.com/porsche-911-technical-forum/994413-trouble-uro-targa-bar-gasket-seal.html URO Parts sent me their new and re-designed windshield seal (part: 911 541 225 03)

I just had the new seal installed yesterday and it looks really good.

The new seal is wider then the previous version and it's a soft rubber material.

My old seal appeared to be original and although it did not leak, it was not fitting well at all. The corners had gaps and the trim was sticking out as well. Although it has no relevance to its functionality it looked ugly due to a previous paint job when they painted over the edges. It was showing its age and it was cracked and disintegrating.

Here are some pictures of the old seal
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They cut out the old seal and removed the glass
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After the glass was removed, it appears that the windshield seal had been replaced before. The body was in good shape underneath all the dirt though.
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They cleaned off the old residue on the glass and put put the new seal around it.
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The dirt and old residue was also removed from the car and the windshield was installed.
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Do you have an antennae in the windshield? Any pics of how you ran the wire thru the seal?

Looks like a great improvement! Perhaps now we have a more affordable
replacement versus the high priced PAG seal. Thanks URO for your
attention to this product. Now, are you also working on improving the rear seal?

This recent thread has the related technical info on that seal as well.

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/porsche-911-technical-forum/995944-front-rear-windshield-seal-recommendations.html#post10033663

That's really great news. I will buy that seal now - and sell off my new unused old-version URO seal I bought years ago.

I can only hope that they fix their other products with such design work. I can only hope that they try to improve their awful Porsche master cylinders. Who knows? With a little work they might have something going now.

Here are some pictures of the finished installation with the new seal and original windshield.
It is wider, and fits well all around including the corners. It molds around to the body and no gaps anywhere.

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I would also like to thank URO Parts for providing me with the new seal. I was concerned using their product for my windshield which is why I asked the question (in the other thread), and I am really glad I did. Seems like they addressed all the issues that I have seen on this forum that a lot of people have and they did a good job with the new and improved version.

This is the picture I have that shows the antenna. The end of the wire with the connector was not properly attached (probably during the last install) and it was soldered back on and shrink wrapped.

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Thanks for sharing! Glad to see that they're taking the time to produce a quality product.

Is the new Uro seal in stock now at (or through) Pelican or still going through the previous seal iteration?

Any information on part or production run numbers to look for to make sure we buy this NEW version?

Don't mean to be a negative Ned but my other BIG concern with aftermarket rubber parts is longevity.

For example the axle boots that Porsche put on my Carrera lasted 30 years, the replacements were shredded in 2 years with very limited driving.

We need to pay attention to how this seal ages, particularly in the sun/weather?

I replaced my original windshield seal with an obscenely priced Porsche original part because I didn't ever want to do THAT again.

URO has left a bad taste in my mouth a couple of times, I jumped at the price, but it costs me more in the long run.

The labor that this shop charged to put two guys on this job is a big factor in the decision.

Scott

How does one know they get the newer, redesigned seal? Are the part numbers different?

I was thinking about replacing my windshield on one of my 911s because the glass is strange and foggy in the corners. I'm curious to know how to tell/order the updated seal.

While they’re at it, URO should take a look at their rear quarter window seals.

What shop did the glass install? I want to do my front and rear glass seals.

I'd like to piggy-back on Techno Duck's last entry. I've had two body shops (pseudo-reputable) tell me that they won't touch this. Now that I'm in my "golden years", I'm not so impulsive to think that I can do this myself. . .

Doubt longevity is going to be the biggest issue.. Finding a seal that actually works is the biggest. The factory seal sucks. The aftermarket ones weren't any better! They all were almost a bit small.... If this one fits like the pictures, we have a winner.

The shop is City Wide Auto Glass in Kearny Mesa. Ask for Mark.

The pictures show how it fits. These are not promotional photos. I took them after the install.

I just finished replacing my windshield in my '83 911 Cab, ordered a Porsche seal and my buddy and I spent two days trying to get the glass back in. I could not get the corners to work right, so I ordered a new URO seal from Pelican and it worked perfectly. The corners are molded in and it held the alloy trim better and at the very least I was able to finish the project. I would never try this again with the Porsche seal.

Can anyone conform that Pelican is stocking this new seal?

That's the original good Porsche stuff from way back in the 80's.

Apples to apples comparison would the current Porsche new parts vs aftermarket, be it fuel pump relays, rod bearings, seals or ignition coils etc.

I agree with MonkeyMan... CV boots can be a durability joke. Not sure which brand it is or supplier that offers boots that totally blow.

My front windshield & seal have never fit correctly---'80 Targa. Gona give this a try. Thanks 3D.

i'd also like to know how to differentiate this from the old version.

What about the rear seal?

Todd

Big thanks to 3Ddesigns911 for the comprehensive write-up and all the great photos, glad you like the new seal!

Here's a quick photo showing the outer lip measurement for those asking how to identify the redesigned version. OEM and our prior version have a lip that's about 8 or 9mm, while our redesign is about 12mm. Also, the photo doesn't show it, but there's another rib hiding next to the inner lip for a total of four ribs, just like OEM.

We discontinued the prior version about four months ago and started shipping the new version about two months ago, so more than likely any orders from Pelican will be the new version. Perhaps Dimitri at Pelican could chime in regarding any seals they might have in inventory, and how long they've have them. The pipeline should be mostly redesigned seals at this point.

Toddu, I'll have to check with the product development department regarding the rear seal and get back to you.

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No matter what I tried I could not get my rear quarter windows to close using URO seals.

I too had nothing but trouble before. Today however I ordered a new windshield seal and can only hope I will receive new version. Worth an attempt to get rid of those ugly gaps

Thanks for the info Slanski62 and Fixer, we'll have engineering get on this. Was it the "Frame to Body" Quarter Glass Seals that gave you trouble (left 901 543 901 20 and right 901 543 902 20)? Or was it the "Frame to Glass" seal 901 543 191 20 (fits both sides)?

uro..do you make the type of seals for windshields with no aluminum trims?

thanx
Ivan

got confirmation from pelican they do not have uro new improved design windhield seal... had order in with condition cancel if not new design and order was cancelled. When and where will it be available ? Would like to try if it is the fix to my problem

On the front window use a splinth to slowly expand the corners to fit. Splinth a thin piece of wood or plastic rounded to mirror the window corner. Insert under rubber hit with plastic hammer and see it eventually expand to cover the frame. Worked for me on a 72 and 75

Hi Trond and Mike, sent you a PM. (We contacted Pelican for an inventory status update, they should be responding shortly.)

Can you please inform ALL of us when Pelican will have the updated seal
in stock so we can order without having to be concerned or asking
PP if they have the latest seal?

Hello Everyone - we're now carrying the updated version.

link please

Thanks

David

https://www.pelicanparts.com/cgi-bin/ksearch/pel_search_2016.cgi?command=DWsearch&description=9 11+541+225+04

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does it have the slot for the chrome for a 1975?

My '86 Cab has the windshield antenna for the radio. Can I use your seal for this application? Does it have a slot/hole for the antenna cable to go through?

Juergen