FS: OEM Black Leather Dash 76-85

[jpsurfer]

Selling this used extra g body dash as I no longer need it. This is covered in black leather and not sure if recovered in the past or original. The dash is pretty solid but the leather has a little patina. Great for a driver car or could be recovered if super picky.

Price: SOLD

Prefer local cash pickup in SoCal; sold as-is.

[jpsurfer]

Bump, more pics available for serious buyers

[fiskarflugen]

Ill tske this if you are willing to ship. Thanks

[jpsurfer]

FYI, Fiskarflugen bought this dash after a lengthy phone discussion where I asked about his expectations and described the condition to the best of my ability. I wanted to avoid shipping but instead spent a bunch of time finding an appropriate box and packing it well for him. Upon receipt he thanked me for the excellent packing and that the dash looked great (awesome news). Nearly 3 months go by and then out of nowhere he starts aggressively texting me that the dash is “unusable” and wanting his money back. I decided to call him and see what made it “unusable” as it came right out of a friends car and sent him pics of it installed. Turns out instead of just using it as discussed he removed the leather. Bottom line, there was some warping in the instrument hood section that was not to his liking after peeling off the leather. I explained to him that this type of distortion is pretty standard on a leather dash and that most are far worse in several other areas as well. I concluded our conversation by saying I am sorry you are unhappy but you got what you paid for, it was sold as-is, and there will be no refund.

Even though he paid through PayPal friends and family months prior he was still somehow able to do a dispute/chargeback via his bank credit card. I responded with all the facts via the PayPal dispute process and they said they wouldn’t even have allowed the dispute but it was up to his bank (really?). In the end his bank decided in his favor and he was refunded all his money including the transaction fee he paid and I got charged a dispute fee on top of that via PayPal. So now he has my dash (that he destroyed), and more money than I received to begin with (aka theft). I called him and left a message that this is unacceptable. Instead of returning the call like I did for him he blocked me on his phone (lame). I later messaged him here on Pelican which he has 100% read and still no response (super lame). Lastly, I emailed him directly asking for resolution and radio silence (unbelievable).

I feel this was a disgraceful way to handle the situation on his part and just wanted to put it out there. Also, just a heads up that apparently PayPal friends and family can be disputed through the senders bank and charged back (aka friendly fraud).

[Discseven]

Originally Posted by jpsurfer

FYI, Fiskarflugen bought this dash after a lengthy phone discussion where I asked about his expectations and described the condition to the best of my ability. I wanted to avoid shipping but instead spent a bunch of time finding an appropriate box and packing it well for him. Upon receipt he thanked me for the excellent packing and that the dash looked great (awesome news). Nearly 3 months go by and then out of nowhere he starts aggressively texting me that the dash is “unusable” and wanting his money back. I decided to call him and see what made it “unusable” as it came right out of a friends car and sent him pics of it installed. Turns out instead of just using it as discussed he removed the leather. Bottom line, there was some warping in the instrument hood section that was not to his liking after peeling off the leather. I explained to him that this type of distortion is pretty standard on a leather dash and that most are far worse in several other areas as well. I concluded our conversation by saying I am sorry you are unhappy but you got what you paid for, it was sold as-is, and there will be no refund.

Even though he paid through PayPal friends and family months prior he was still somehow able to do a dispute/chargeback via his bank credit card. I responded with all the facts via the PayPal dispute process and they said they wouldn’t even have allowed the dispute but it was up to his bank (really?). In the end his bank decided in his favor and he was refunded all his money including the transaction fee he paid and I got charged a dispute fee on top of that via PayPal. So now he has my dash (that he destroyed), and more money than I received to begin with (aka theft). I called him and left a message that this is unacceptable. Instead of returning the call like I did for him he blocked me on his phone (lame). I later messaged him here on Pelican which he has 100% read and still no response (super lame). Lastly, I emailed him directly asking for resolution and radio silence (unbelievable).

I feel this was a disgraceful way to handle the situation on his part and just wanted to put it out there. Also, just a heads up that apparently PayPal friends and family can be disputed through the senders bank and charged back (aka friendly fraud).

Sux. (Hard to fathom a buyer can destroy a product then ask for a refund... AND GET IT.)

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[Mocker]

That's pitiful. If I ran this site, I'd ban people like him.

[jpsurfer]

Yep, and ironically he was literally just logged in reading this thread…

[jimbo]

The guy's a skunk of the highest order.

[matt930s]

Well, Fiskarflugen? Bad, bad look for ya bro….

[matt930s]

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/porsche-marketplace-discussion/1136870-paypal-f-f-reversal-theft.html

[esample]

Guy’s got lots of WTB posts. Be careful out there.

[jpsurfer]

Yes, fishing for used deals with unrealistic expectations. I hope this won’t happen to anyone else. I also would like to think he finds his moral compass and realizes he needs to make this right.

I like most on here have had highs and lows with regards to buying things but would NEVER act like this.

[budge96]

That's high near akin to a scam thanks for the heads up will not be dealing with him !

[Gadsby]

Fiskarflugen, noted, moderator maybe people like this should be added to the list of scammers, effectively it is!

[bkreigsr]

How much money are we talking about here?
(just in the neighborhood - round numbers)

[jpsurfer]

I received $725 for the dash, packing, and shipping cross country. But between getting dinged with the fees he paid and a PayPal dispute charge I got charged back $761.33 to be exact. And he still has the dash…

Certainly not enough for a millionaire to loose their credibility over.

[Cyberbug007]

Fiskarflugen noted - but there are many forums and it would be good to know the persons name may help others protect themselves in future deals.

Just a user ID may not help

[echecsqueen]

Sorry to hear that. Your dash looked fine- i dont think there is such thing as an early dash that doesn’t have some warping. Ugh

[John2244]

Hello Jon,

Sorry to hear about your issues with the blank blank blank buyer. Thank you for taking the time to keep us all on alert.
I hope the moderators read this and banned him from this site. Hope a lot of bad karma goes his way.

[jpsurfer]

Cyberbug007, Fiskarflugen’s actual name is Alexander Zabik out of Cos Cob, Ct.

echecsqueen, correct a vintage leather dash in this condition is quite hard to find. Most are completely distorted all along the windshield, rear vents, and front vent with leather pulling out all over.

John2244, yes shameful and still hasn’t made any attempt to reconcile so may come down to karma and/or legal action.