Pelican Parts
Parts Catalog Accessories Catalog How To Articles Tech Forums
Call Pelican Parts at 888-280-7799
Shopping Cart Cart | Project List | Order Status | Help



Go Back   Pelican Parts Forums > Porsche Forums > Porsche 914 & 914-6 Technical Forum


Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools
Author
Thread Post New Thread    Reply
Registered
 
Eduardo Castrejón Elbjorn's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2000
Location: Acapulco Guerrero México
Posts: 707
Send a message via ICQ to Eduardo Castrejón Elbjorn
transmission fluid advice

Hi,

I recently rebuilt the trans, please let me know which fluid to use ?

let me know

regards

Old 06-12-2004, 10:24 PM
  Pelican Parts Catalog | Tech Articles | Promos & Specials    Reply With Quote #1 (permalink)
canna change law physics
 
red-beard's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2000
Location: Houston, Tejas
Posts: 43,411
Garage
80W90 Gear Oil.
__________________
James
The pessimist complains about the wind; the optimist expects it to change; the engineer adjusts the sails.- William Arthur Ward (1921-1994)
Red-beard for President, 2020
Old 06-13-2004, 03:14 AM
  Pelican Parts Catalog | Tech Articles | Promos & Specials    Reply With Quote #2 (permalink)
Registered
 
lmcchesney's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: Toledo, Ohio
Posts: 287
Garage
Red-Beard, do you believe there is a SIGNIFICANT difference between standare 80-90W gear oil vs the synthetic vs Swepco?
I appreciate your experienced opinion.
L. McC
Old 06-13-2004, 04:52 AM
  Pelican Parts Catalog | Tech Articles | Promos & Specials    Reply With Quote #3 (permalink)
canna change law physics
 
red-beard's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2000
Location: Houston, Tejas
Posts: 43,411
Garage
I can't find any real information that Swepco is anything but 90W gear oil.
__________________
James
The pessimist complains about the wind; the optimist expects it to change; the engineer adjusts the sails.- William Arthur Ward (1921-1994)
Red-beard for President, 2020
Old 06-13-2004, 07:30 AM
  Pelican Parts Catalog | Tech Articles | Promos & Specials    Reply With Quote #4 (permalink)
914 Geek
 
Dave at Pelican Parts's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 1969
Location: Silly-Con Valley
Posts: 14,946
Garage
With nifty blue dye in it. And probably (not sure!) their own particular additive package.

We recommend it, but then again we do sell it! Mechanics that I trust have very specifically recommended it to me, so that's what I have gone with.

--DD
__________________
Pelican Parts 914 Tech Support

A few pics of my car: http://www.pelicanparts.com/gallery/Dave_Darling
Old 06-14-2004, 09:52 AM
  Pelican Parts Catalog | Tech Articles | Promos & Specials    Reply With Quote #5 (permalink)
canna change law physics
 
red-beard's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2000
Location: Houston, Tejas
Posts: 43,411
Garage
Yeah, and at $40/gal it has substantial margin...

I use Coastal at $6.99/gal.
__________________
James
The pessimist complains about the wind; the optimist expects it to change; the engineer adjusts the sails.- William Arthur Ward (1921-1994)
Red-beard for President, 2020
Old 06-14-2004, 01:09 PM
  Pelican Parts Catalog | Tech Articles | Promos & Specials    Reply With Quote #6 (permalink)
 
Ornery Bastard
 
Join Date: Sep 2001
Location: South Sound
Posts: 2,880
Personally, I like Mobil 1 synthetic gear oil. It definitely made a difference in shift quality in my 924S and the Mobil 1 synthetic gear oil is much less expensive than Swepco or RedLine while providing more than enough benefit for street applications.

While Swepco and RedLine are indeed "better", the amount by which they are better is not enough to justify their extra price. My personal opinion is that Mobil 1 sits at a sweet spot in the cost/reward payoff curve.

Aaron
__________________
---------
Silver 1998 Volvo S70 T5 <- Daily (Anja)
Guards Red 1986 951 <- Seattle car (Gretchen)
White 1976 914 2.0 F.I. <- Prodigal car, traded away then brought back again (Lorelei)
Old 06-14-2004, 05:34 PM
  Pelican Parts Catalog | Tech Articles | Promos & Specials    Reply With Quote #7 (permalink)
OCD project capitan
 
BigD9146gt's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2003
Location: Northern Beaches, Sydney
Posts: 1,173
Garage
Aaron, so do you use the synthetic in your 914 gear box? Last time i tried to use synthetic i was forced to become a double-clutch pro. Now as re-beard said, the Swepco is more expensive, but i don't take my trans apart all the often anyways...
__________________
Don Welch
'73 914ish ->6ish GTish 2.8 twin plug mfi... happy camper.
Old 06-14-2004, 05:56 PM
  Pelican Parts Catalog | Tech Articles | Promos & Specials    Reply With Quote #8 (permalink)
Ornery Bastard
 
Join Date: Sep 2001
Location: South Sound
Posts: 2,880
Quote:
Originally posted by BigD9146gt
Aaron, so do you use the synthetic in your 914 gear box? Last time i tried to use synthetic i was forced to become a double-clutch pro. Now as re-beard said, the Swepco is more expensive, but i don't take my trans apart all the often anyways...
I have not put it into the 914 box yet (it's not due for a gear oil change). I probably wouldn't be putting it into the 914's gearbox even if I weren't selling the car because I am not having any problems aside from the "normal" 914 caveat of no speed shifting.

I switched over in the 924S because I was getting 2nd gear "lock-out" on cold mornings in the middle of winter.

I will say that if using synthetic causes your synchros to stop working effectively, then there was a pre-existing condition in the transmission that was almost certainly being masked by very, very dirty gear oil. before synthetic was put in.

Aaron
__________________
---------
Silver 1998 Volvo S70 T5 <- Daily (Anja)
Guards Red 1986 951 <- Seattle car (Gretchen)
White 1976 914 2.0 F.I. <- Prodigal car, traded away then brought back again (Lorelei)
Old 06-14-2004, 06:04 PM
  Pelican Parts Catalog | Tech Articles | Promos & Specials    Reply With Quote #9 (permalink)
canna change law physics
 
red-beard's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2000
Location: Houston, Tejas
Posts: 43,411
Garage
Quote:
Originally posted by AaronM
I will say that if using synthetic causes your synchros to stop working effectively, then there was a pre-existing condition in the transmission that was almost certainly being masked by very, very dirty gear oil. before synthetic was put in.
Or the very dirty gear or, or lack of gear oil, is causing the problems.

Decent fresh gear oil is the best gear oil.
__________________
James
The pessimist complains about the wind; the optimist expects it to change; the engineer adjusts the sails.- William Arthur Ward (1921-1994)
Red-beard for President, 2020
Old 06-14-2004, 08:36 PM
  Pelican Parts Catalog | Tech Articles | Promos & Specials    Reply With Quote #10 (permalink)
Registered
 
Join Date: Jun 2004
Location: Nashville, TN
Posts: 36
I have to agree with Aaron. Putting Mobil 1 in my gearbox eliminated 90% of the shifting stiffness I was experiencing in a fresh, professionally rebuilt tranny.
__________________
'00 Volvo S80
'96 Jeep Cherokee
'94 Toyota Camry
deceased '72 1.7
deceased '75 1.8
'41 HD Knucklehead (rebuilding basketcase into chopper)
'74 1.8 (Ravenna green and drivers still don't see me!)
Old 06-15-2004, 07:17 AM
  Pelican Parts Catalog | Tech Articles | Promos & Specials    Reply With Quote #11 (permalink)
canna change law physics
 
red-beard's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2000
Location: Houston, Tejas
Posts: 43,411
Garage
I used Mobil 1 in my 914/6 box. I had no shifting issues. I agree. If you are having shifting issues, get the tranny fixed. Oil will not fix the tranny.
__________________
James
The pessimist complains about the wind; the optimist expects it to change; the engineer adjusts the sails.- William Arthur Ward (1921-1994)
Red-beard for President, 2020
Old 06-15-2004, 07:27 AM
  Pelican Parts Catalog | Tech Articles | Promos & Specials    Reply With Quote #12 (permalink)
Registered
 
Kenny Powell's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2001
Location: Southwest
Posts: 548
Quote:
Originally posted by red-beard
80W90 Gear Oil.
use tranny Juice of your choice!
__________________
75' 2.0 w Ljet



"I like the way she doesn't move in the curve's... and then she let's go!"
Old 06-15-2004, 07:44 AM
  Pelican Parts Catalog | Tech Articles | Promos & Specials    Reply With Quote #13 (permalink)
914 Geek
 
Dave at Pelican Parts's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 1969
Location: Silly-Con Valley
Posts: 14,946
Garage
Quote:
Originally posted by red-beard
Yeah, and at $40/gal it has substantial margin...
Actually, I was a Swepco believer before I started working for Pelican. Both of the local mechanics that I trust the most will only use it. One of them was, umm, rather uncomplementary of my choice of Redline MTL quite a few years ago...

But to each their own.

--DD
__________________
Pelican Parts 914 Tech Support

A few pics of my car: http://www.pelicanparts.com/gallery/Dave_Darling
Old 06-15-2004, 10:36 AM
  Pelican Parts Catalog | Tech Articles | Promos & Specials    Reply With Quote #14 (permalink)
OCD project capitan
 
BigD9146gt's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2003
Location: Northern Beaches, Sydney
Posts: 1,173
Garage
Back when i did use the synthetic, the trans was on its way to needing new syncros. However, everytime i've driven a car with a 901 gear box running sythetic, double clutching was better because the syncros were too slippery, there was no bite for the dog teeth on the selector rings. Once i drained the synthetic out and replaced with swepco, it was like night and day. Granted, at the time it still needed a rebuild, i comfortly got several thousand miles out of it before overhauling it.
__________________
Don Welch
'73 914ish ->6ish GTish 2.8 twin plug mfi... happy camper.
Old 06-15-2004, 11:33 AM
  Pelican Parts Catalog | Tech Articles | Promos & Specials    Reply With Quote #15 (permalink)
Registered
 
Cokeaholic's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: Fl.
Posts: 23
Send a message via AIM to Cokeaholic
Ok...

I am kind of new at the whole transmission deal. I had to get a new engine for my 914 and i also took the rear off the end of my transmission to check my first gear. Now I'm trying to figure out how to replace all of the lost fluid. Is there a dipstick anywhere on the tranny? How would i go about gauging my level of tranny fluid and then replacing it?

Thanks- Corey
Old 10-12-2004, 01:27 PM
  Pelican Parts Catalog | Tech Articles | Promos & Specials    Reply With Quote #16 (permalink)
SGB SGB is offline
Registered
 
SGB's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: Huntsville, AL
Posts: 902
Garage
Two big allen-head screw things (maybe 22MM?) on the right rear side of the transaxle for draining and filling. Do remove the fill plug before the drain plug, so will be able to refill without tipping the car on it's side!
__________________
-Scott


My gallery page
Old 10-12-2004, 01:55 PM
  Pelican Parts Catalog | Tech Articles | Promos & Specials    Reply With Quote #17 (permalink)
OCD project capitan
 
BigD9146gt's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2003
Location: Northern Beaches, Sydney
Posts: 1,173
Garage
Cory, they are 17mm hex (allen) sockets. You'll probably need to by the tool (a 1/4" socket 17mm hex) to get the job done (i tried to make a tool with a 17mm bolt, nuts and a wrench, but sometimes those suckers are in there tight). With the trans on level gound (either on the work bench or in the car), make sure the bottom plug is secured in the drain hole, then start filling the trans with new oil. I do this with a oil hand pump which can be purchased at any autoparts store. Stop filling when the oil starts flowing out the hole. Its that simple.

Cheers, Don.
__________________
Don Welch
'73 914ish ->6ish GTish 2.8 twin plug mfi... happy camper.

Last edited by BigD9146gt; 10-13-2004 at 12:59 PM..
Old 10-12-2004, 03:15 PM
  Pelican Parts Catalog | Tech Articles | Promos & Specials    Reply With Quote #18 (permalink)
 
Registered
 
Cokeaholic's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: Fl.
Posts: 23
Send a message via AIM to Cokeaholic
haha thanks, i'll go do that now then.
Old 10-12-2004, 03:33 PM
  Pelican Parts Catalog | Tech Articles | Promos & Specials    Reply With Quote #19 (permalink)
Registered
 
Join Date: Aug 2001
Location: Jupiter, FL, USA
Posts: 155
The only place I could find the 17mm 1/4 drive socket localy was a Snap On truck. Met the guy on the side of the road. $12 - Keep the socket in your glove box, because you will never need it for anything else.

Old 10-12-2004, 06:31 PM
  Pelican Parts Catalog | Tech Articles | Promos & Specials    Reply With Quote #20 (permalink)
Reply


 


All times are GMT -8. The time now is 09:29 AM.


 
Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.7
Copyright ©2000 - 2026, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
Search Engine Optimization by vBSEO 3.6.0
Copyright 2025 Pelican Parts, LLC - Posts may be archived for display on the Pelican Parts Website -    DMCA Registered Agent Contact Page
 

DTO Garage Plus vBulletin Plugins by Drive Thru Online, Inc.