914club forum off-line

[M. Hendrix]

Thanks Andy. It's your trouble, not your problem.

Front page says we have no rules, call it a 'community', and then you can't be human..

Great! Let's just release all the technical notes, that we can harvest there, delete the club, and put it out in PDF form.

The club could just be www.914club.com/914_tech.pdf, instead of a fund raising society, a humanitarian organization, a porn dump, a religious indoctrination outlet, or a place where you can SHARE TIME WITH PEOPLE WHO HAVE THE LOVE OF THE SAME CAR YOU DO!

F'ed up man, you don't have to own a 914 to be a member, but you'd better have something useful for everyone else about 914s, or else.

Lame.

I am super-pissed.


M

[goose2]

Wow...this is dejavous all over again! I used to moderate a large message board serving the sailboat racing community and the exact same thing happened. As membership grew and the population became more diverse, these problems arose. I think it is just normal evolution of on-line communities. People get to know each other, personalities emerge, friendships and rivalries form, resentments fester...just like real life. That's both the beauty and the hell of it. Having BTDT I have nothing but admiration and respect (and some sympathy) for the administration......it's a frustrating and often thankless job. The fact is, in any group of over a few hundred, there are going to be a lot of people who can't have it their way....some will make a lot of noise and piss everyone else off, some will learn to live with it, some will try to change things constructively, and some will just go away. Moderators and administrators need to become a bit dictatorial in deciding "how it will be", and if we don't like it we should be able to muster the maturity to accept it or leave. I have to bite my tongue while saying this, as I am an anarchist at heart, but I don't think it is the way to a long lasting on-line community. BTW...the board I ran died after three years of glorious unrestrained free speech...I sure would hate to see that happen to us.

[tat2dphreak]

Originally posted by SirAndy
you guys are retards ... (sorry kevin ...) that includes zois and eric shea ...

first, learn how to *READ* ...

let's say it together: no one was going to change the rules!

all i was going to do was to add a OT filter for people that want to filter out OT topics.
the default setting would be for the filter to be off (you see all topics) and *YOU* have control over the filter.
it would also be *YOU* who is responsible for marking a thread OT by putting it in the title.

so exactly *WHAT* would that change for you "Mr. Zois Moron" ???

i don't get it. first, you don't *READ* my post about testing the filter, than you *WHINE* about how we're changing the rules on you and the club is falling apart.

all i've been asking for quite some time now is that people actually put OT in the thread title if it's indeed a Off Topic post (meaning, it's not 914 or porsche or car related) ...

do this out of RESPECT for your fellow club members!

but then again, some people seem to have a huge problem with respecting others.
the same people that constantly whine about no one respecting *their* wishes. which mostly consist of posting porn.
you know who you are.
grow up or leave. i'm tired of you.
i'm tired of constantly having to babysit you.
it's you few that create 95% of the trouble on the club site.

that's why i need a timeout.
i have to think about what i want to do with the 914club.

later, Andy

werd

[Toast]

Makes me wish I would have read the OT Rant thread instead of posting picture from the 914 Red Rocks Classic Event that I dove my 914 to.

Sheesh.... my bad for posting On Topic.

[URY914]

People talk about how this is a "garage full of buddies and anything goes". Well no, because its a damn big garage. We got some people that come to the garage to work on thier cars and others who just want to hang out and tell us about what they had for lunch. The "garage" needs a line painted on the floor and those that have no 914 content need to stand on the other side of it. You can come in and have a beer but stand out of the way while we work on our cars.

Once again, I am fine with OT posts. I do it myself. But lable it. And when a post gets OT, drop it or get back on topic.

If this wasn't a problem we would be talking about it now.

[boxstr]

Instead of an OT filter it should be a ZOIS filter, sorry mikey I couldnt resist
Andy enjoy the time away from the club, you desreve it.
CCL

[914/6]

Get it all out and off your chest , then check it at the door when and if the site comes back. 914CLUB

Toast ; you did the right thing great pictures.

[Eric_Shea]

If you find 914s or 914-only discussions boring, then go elsewhere for your other interests.

Hello, McFly... people did go elsewhere. They formed the 914club. Please remeber just how that BB was founded people.

I like the community aspect. Have certain threads gone to far? Probably. Almost everything can be brought down to a very simple and intelligent phrase:

"You cannot have freedom without responsibility."

I simply do not want to lose my freedom over the irresponsible action of a few or the moral tidings of a few others. Peri-*******-od. I AM NOT REPRESENTED BY THE FAR RIGHT OR THE FAR LEFT.

Who here has "never" participated in an OT thread? Who here is throwing rocks?

JP... What conclusion did I arive at? I don't object to your (fuched-up) opinions. Push your ******* button, just don't make me push one. Don't buy a gun if you don't want to... just don't make it so I can't. Don't eat meat if your a vegetarian... just don't make my menu for me. It seems as though you object to my opinions. I don't object to opinions JP. I object to "actions" that have limited my freedoms.

If you don't want OT... you push the button. We're all happy.

[Toast]

Originally posted by skline
Jeesh, I take a little time off and then come back to see my favorite place and it is offline? What did you guys do now? Why did you have to go and piss off Andy? Now what am I going to do? I guess I will bury myself in work some more and try later. Thanks guys for taking my one release away.

Hey, I only have a short window at work that I can use the internet to view the 914 club (even though i'm not suppose to be on it at all and I really push my time on it). I dont want to use by 23bps friggin dialup at home to view 15+ pages of pictures form the Red Rocks Classic event cause it would take me all fudgen night!
So now, I dont get to view those pictures of the fun times that myself and others had in their 914's because people post crap that they know will piss other people off.

[tat2dphreak]

the RRC pics were amazing... when the 914club comes back, can we get that thread nailed?

[aircooledboy]

And with a wimper, another really great thing spins into the wall.

I loved the 914club because it was a place where I met new friends and had my belief in the existance of good and interesting people restored. At least for a while. (Miles, we've never met personally, but I gotta tell ya, you and a few others made me laugh until I cried more times than I can count, and I always though of you as a major asset to the site.) I saw people who wouldn't recognize each other if they were sharing a seat on the bus, show true compassion, support and more in a way that is nearly extinct in this world. Most of the time, those acts didn't have a damn thing to do with a car. Now, that community has had the life sucked right out of it by the same self-centered dog crap that makes rest of the world so gray.

A little dramatic I suppose, but true. It was probably inevitable, but it genuinely makes me sad. It feels like a little window I could look out for a few minutes each day and see fun, just got bricked over.

[jkeyzer]

To the few who ruined it for the rest of us (you know who you are) - thanks a lot guys.

I try to go onto the site last night to ask a question, search for some tech info while I am out in the garage WORKING ON MY CAR, and I can't, because of a few selfish, immature, irresponsible people.

Again, thanks a lot, and do me a favor, don't come back to 914club.

[Mark_B]

Andy -enjoy your time.... you have truly a thankless job.

At the same time I want to tell you that I have no issue with the board. The only time I have gotten a little mifted was when in the middle of an on topic thread it disintegrates into porn.

I enjoy the opposite sex just as much as anyone else. But that is not the place for it.

The avatars and Mikey add a little spice. Even Mikey knows there is a line.

No way to really police this and thats fine. But Decide what YOU want and stand your ground. I got your back whichever way you go.

M

[Eric_Shea]

the default setting would be for the filter to be off (you see all topics) and *YOU* have control over the filter.

But the default setting was *ON*... so I guess you're right, Z is a moron.

Werd

[AJS]

Dear Admin's,

I will support whatever decisions you make. Without your thankless effort, I think we should ALL recognize that this list would not exist without you. It seems there's some growing up that would benefit some of the participants.

I would personally like to thank you for your hard work and patience.

AndyS

[Eric_Shea]

Before I sign off for a while I wanted to say how much I dig all of you guys. Even Grumpy ole JP.

Andy... it's a terrific solution when it works like you planned. Excellent job.

[devadv]

I like that the site is down, but i hope it gets back up soon b/c i would hate for this site to turn into the 914 club. this is th one place i feel i can come and get help with my car w/o any of the other BS that goes along with the 914club. no *****in' here (unless it's about stromberg), no gratuitous nudity shots, no religion or politics, just 914 stuff.

Now, do i think the 914club is a GREAT site? you betcha! but it has gotten a little out of hand. the site is not a PORN site. the off topic stuff is great, but the porn needs to stay on the porn sites, the religion needs to stay in church, the politics in washington, and the Whine needs to stay in napa. STOP WHINING! if you don't like something , don't look at it. and quit crying to the teacher.

[Toast]

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Originally posted by Eric_Shea

This entire thread is pretty much OT for the PP board. I'm surprised a hard core Pelicanite hasn't whined to Wayne about it and gotten it removed. We should all be banned if we don't contribute here.

I like the "community" approach with a mixture of tech. I'll spend most of my time on the 914club.

I like "tech only" camel toes are for heathens. I'll spend my time on the PP board.
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Originally posted by itsa914


Not that anyone cares but I agree.

No itsa914, I dont care.

I did requote what Eric Shea said because I think its something that none of us have noticed yet.
The fact that we have stayed on this ONE THREAD on the PP board, shows that we DO INDEED have Respect for others. Otherwise we would be flaunting the chat on this tread all over this board. Which in turn would get us locked out of here.
So.........if we apply this same respect on the 914club.com, then maybe we wouldn't end up here so much.

Ehhhhh.......

[M. Hendrix]

Originally posted by Eric_Shea
Hello, McFly... people did go elsewhere. They formed the 914club. Please remeber just how that BB was founded people.

"You cannot have freedom without responsibility."

I simply do not want to lose my freedom over the irresponsible action of a few or the moral tidings of a few others. Peri-*******-od. I AM NOT REPRESENTED BY THE FAR RIGHT OR THE FAR LEFT.

Oh, take that back! Take it all back!

Obviously, Eric's short term memory loss, has no effect on older short term memories.


M

[Bleyseng]

I would prefer a Christian filter with all the talk that was going on over there,,,,,,,,,,,