Temp Guages

mikester · 05:26 PM

So, I have a temp guage out of a '76 in dash guage. It reads the redline of 156.7 - 170. Will this work in place of a Console mounted gauge? I had a center console that I removed but I didn't note the temp on the temp gauge.

Thanks!

mikester · 02-08-2003, 09:40 AM

Oh yeah, the gauge starts at 30.

campbellcj · 02-08-2003, 01:57 PM

That's obviously a metric (Celsius) gauge. You'd have to have the correctly calibrated sender for it to be of any value. Plus it's about 27 years old so I wouldn't put a lot of faith in it. A new VDO with matching sender is not too expensive.

mikester · 02-09-2003, 05:00 PM

It is a factory gauge out of a '76 Dash.

The question is...are the senders for this dash guage and the sender for the center console guage different?

IF they are, then I would obviously need a new sender...in which case...forget it. I'll get a numbered VDO.

But, if they are the same sender then I want to try it.

I wired it up with some temporary wires just to see what happens.

Just to be clear though, it is the GREEN wire that provides the resitance from the center console wiring correct? And then all I need is to add the 12V power to the guage. That is how I have it wired at the moment. I'll take a pic in a few minutes just to be clear.

Thanks for the reply man. I've been watching your car take shape online...I wish I had the resources (read: garage) to do what you've been doing. It looks real nice. It's my understanding that you're working with Otto? Does that mean you live near Santa Monica (that's where I live).

mikester · 02-09-2003, 05:44 PM

Attached are the wiring pics. Thanks for the help.

campbellcj · 02-09-2003, 08:08 PM

I don't have PET loaded on my system anymore, otherwise I could check the 73-74 sender part number vs. the 76 one. Maybe somebody else on the board could look that up?

I don't live in the SaMo area anymore, but I still work there and Ottos is doing quite a bit of the work on my orange car. If my budget comes together, we will be doing the six conversion soon (my engine is sitting in the shop on the engine stand, ready for action.)

Joe Bob · Joe Bob's Garage

Only way to check it is to get a KNOWN calibrated testing device, like a pyrometer and compare it to YOUR gauge.

The 914s gauges were notoriously inaccurate when new.....even more so now that they are older then most people on this list....

Take the pyrometer and measure the oil temp at the stick after warm.....check out the gauge.

If the gauge as numbers great.....easy to compare.....if it does NOT have numbers.......throw it VERY FAR away.....hopefully it won't follow ya home....and buy one that has a matched sender and numbers on the gauge.....geez, what a concept.....

My stupid 911 has numbers.....but over in the edge and so small ya gotta have kung fu eyes to read the damnthang...

maf 914 · 02-11-2003, 03:40 PM

"The 914s gauges were notoriously inaccurate when new.....even more so now that they are older then most people on this list.... "

Mikez,

I have to call you on this one! The oldest 914 is 33 years and the youngest is 27 (actually 28 since production stopped in '75). I seriously doubt that the majority of the people who post are younger than their temperature gauges! I know I'm not. And I suspect there are quite a few others who aren't! LOL!

Mike

mikester · 02-11-2003, 04:53 PM

I think I am going to get a matched up new setup.

Does PP have such a set? Well...let me just browse over to there catalogue...

I sure would have liked to have had that temp gauge today...I was stuck in traffic.....

thanks for all the input again guys.

bludden · bludden's Garage

Does the replacement matched set use the same "modular gauge" as the stock unit? Or does it require a round VDO hole?

I have both available, but would prefer to use the stock location and save the round VDO hole for volts or something.

Joe Bob · Joe Bob's Garage

Quote:

Originally posted by maf 914
"The 914s gauges were notoriously inaccurate when new.....even more so now that they are older then most people on this list.... "

Mikez,

I have to call you on this one! The oldest 914 is 33 years and the youngest is 27 (actually 28 since production stopped in '75). I seriously doubt that the majority of the people who post are younger than their temperature gauges! I know I'm not. And I suspect there are quite a few others who aren't! LOL!

Mike

Older than most of their underwear?

Dave at Pelican Parts · Dave at Pelican Parts's Garage

The gauge and sender that we sell is the standard round VDO gauge that doesn't quite fit in the hole in the center console. To use your combo gauge module, you'll either have to get it re-worked, or just renumber it.

--DD

campbellcj · 02-11-2003, 07:09 PM

Palo Alto Speedometer could probably recalibrate the combo gauge module and provide a matching VDO sender. It wouldn't be cheap, but it would look CW stock and it would work...

I ditched my center console and put 3 (new) round VDO gauges in the dash space where the radio normally goes (oh, I ditched that too).

I thought about a full custom Autometer dash, but replacing the tach, speedo and gas gauge in addition to the other new ones gets spendy, plus I like the original-looking VDO gauges better anyway.

bludden · bludden's Garage

Thanks Dave. I have an aftermarket console that has 3 holes across, and have Oil pressure, Amps (not connected) and vacuum (disabled when switched to carbs by PO) gauges in there There is one more hole below these that has a original clock (works great!).

Whatever provides the best information is what I want! It gets hot here in the summer...