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Schumi 07-13-2009 01:04 AM

My clutch job, in pictures:
 
Here's brief photographic documentation on my clutch job. As of this posting, I have gotten the old rubber center clutch out and am awaiting new parts before reassembly.

We'll start with getting the car in... here she is, backed into the workshop, fresh after my 'last' drive..

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Time to get it up on stands. I put them under the metal pucks at the front and the torsion tube carriers in the rear.

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First step after disconnecting the battery is to drop the exhaust. This necessitates removing six bolts at the triangle shaped flanges at the primary header. Those flanges are just out of view of this pic. The bolts will most likely be rusted tight. I broke 3 free with an impact, and ground 3 off with a cutoff wheel pnuematic tool. Be prepared to spend a lot of time and get very frustrated here. It took me about an hour to grind the bolts off.

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Then its to the rear of the car. The halfshafts need to be dropped. This required an 8mm 'cheesehead' tool, or 12 point internal socket. Remember to 'wake up' the bolts before busting them loose. Mine all came out easily. I reccomend putting the parking brake on, taking three inner and three outer bolts loose, then taking the brake off, rotating the wheel 190 degrees, setting the brake, and continue with the rest. Note my halfshafts have the paint chipping off them. They will be getting replaced with a newer set that I have and this set will get rebuilt later.

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Now that those are out, it's time to start getting the transaxle down. Taking off the rubber cover on the bottom side of the trans, you will see the coupler inside. There are two allen head bolts that must be completely removed (not just loose) for the coupler to slide back. You will need someone to push in the clutch pedal while you rotate the shaft around to where you can access the bolt heads. After you get them out, slide the couple back towards the tranny. It should slide easily. Be sure to do this step before loosening any of the trans mount bolts.

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Now you will also want to disconnect the reverse sensor wires. The shifter is next. In the car carefully remove the shift boot. There is just a small clip that holds the shifter on. After it's off, on the linkage there is a C-clip that holds the shift linkage to the shift lever. Remove this and slide the tube over. Remove the nasty insulation under the shifter. Then, back at the trans, take the single bolt out that holds the shift linkage tube to the transaxle. It needs to come all the way out. Then in the car, slide the shift linkage tube down and into the tunnel forwards as far as you can.

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Now it's time to loosen the transaxle from the rear bellhousing. There are 4 bolts on this interface. Two regular bolts (17mm I believe) and two large socket head cap screws.

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Schumi 07-13-2009 01:05 AM

After those are out, the only thing holding the trans in is the top two bolts on the rubber mounts. Put a jack under the trans and take these out. The slowly lower the trans back and down and out. As you can see mine was covered in grime. It may have been overfilled at one time. I'm going to clean it up and check for leaks.

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But, if you're like me.. you'll have a nice clean backup on standby just in case..

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Now in the rear you will just have this:

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Now it's time for the starter. This was difficult. After you remove the wires to the starter, there are two bolts holding it on the bellhousing. One faces forward, one faced back. The one that had the head on the forwards size will be stuck, I bet on it. It also cannot be accessed with a large socket wrench or impact. It must be turned with either a slim 19mm spanner wrench or a 19mm short socket on a small breaker wrench or small ratchet.

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After the started is out you can get to the 4 torque tube bolts. Undo these (17mm). Then you can slide the TT back. Get some help here. After the exhaust hangars are all off, push the tube up and rotate it 180 degrees. Then slide it back, clearing the tabs over the torsion bar housing.

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You will then be able to see the driveshaft splines. Note how much room I have here.

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Now it's time for the difficult part. It's time to remove the sensors from the top of the bellhousing. There are 3. They are in the vary back of the motor, on the top of the bellhousing, facing the driver's side. To get to them effectively, I pulled the starter wires up to the top of the motor and set them aiside. I then undid the hose clamp holding the heater core line and valve and pushed it away. Then I pushed the ECU harness out of the way. They are way back there. My sensors were held in with 10mm bolts. The top most forwards sensor can be got at with a long extension directly. I linked together three 1/4 drive extensions on a ratchet which had enough tolerance in them to 'bend' and make a flex shaft, fitting the socket on the sensors easier.

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Lots of PB blaster here. You don't want to have to force the sensors out. To get the back sensor bolt off I put a floor jack under the back of the motor and used it to push up, tilting the motor forwards (remember, the TT is disconnected at this point). This brought the rear sensor bolt into view.

You will hate this part, but it is satisfying when they come out. When getting them out, twist them back and forth repeatedly as you pull up.

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I do not have a lot of pictures explaining the rest. I deviate from the standard method a bit here. Instead of pulling the clutch fork pin, which I have tried and failed to do before on another car.. I opted to take the pressure plate bolts out through the started hole. This is time consuming, as I was by myself and had to go rotate the motor with a big wrench at the front of the car, then get under the car and look for the bolts in the starter hole. After they were out the PP is free in the bellhousing.

Then there are only 4 bellhousing to engine bolts and a big ground cable holding the bellhousing on. Two of these are easy, two are difficult to reach. I had to use a 'breaker bar' style socket wrench (one that doesn't ratchet, just a u-joint) that could bend in a weird angle, to reach them. Here also I had to tilt the motor forwards to get at one near the top of the firewall and then pulled the motor aft to gain clearance to one under the brake booster. There is a big ground cable at the top that is held by a 13mm bolt.

Then it comes off! The bellhousing and PP come together, held by the clutch fork.

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Schumi 07-13-2009 01:05 AM

Here is the flywheel...

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And the rubber clutch all busted up. A large chunk of rubber was missing and the metal splines and plate were not attached to the rubber at the base anymore, allowing the splines to rotate about 100 degrees before the limp tabs engaged and held it together.

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A shot of the limp tabs. They had nearly started to start to shear across themselves.

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So.... from here it's to each his own. I'll be replacing some bits and reassembling the whole kit next weekend. It took me a little over 9 hours to do everything you see above, spread over two days. I could have done it in roughly 7 without the nuisance of some stuck bolts along the way.

Thanks for everyone's help and suggestions leading up to this point! I was able to do everything you see above without needing to reference clark's or a book or manual. It is time consuming but this is nothing that cannot be done (by one person here even!) in you home garage provided you are patient and have an assortment of ratchets and spanners that will be able to get into tight spots (behind the engine).

I can't wait for next weekend when she gets new life!

Eric_Oz_S2 07-13-2009 01:55 AM

Good job.

I've just removed the trans myself to rebuild my tt.

I slid the shifter much further forward before removing the trans - so the end of the shift rod was in line with the end of the tt housing. I also unbolted the shifter from the tt but didn't remove the shifter - I just hung it across the centre console in position.

What did you use to get that spare trans so clean??!!

You might want to check out the tt bearings while your there. Mine failed on my S2 at 135,000 km. Hence the rebuild.

Schumi 07-13-2009 08:17 AM

The spare trans was stripped with some heavy duty industrial degreaser and then painted...

Is there a procedure for checking the TT bearings? I guess I will go check clark's...

Nottom 07-13-2009 09:28 AM

Great pictures, thanks for putting it together.

I just became a proud 944 owner this past weekend, and I'm likely looking at a clutch replacement over the winter, so I've been reading anything I can find.

I've read that some people prefer to remove the intake manifold in order to reach those sensors on the back of the engine, but I can understand why you didn't go that route if you didn't have to.

What I'm wondering is if it's possible to loosen the motor mounts in order to gain additional clearance to those sensors? I have large hands, so I need all the clearance I can get.

Schumi 07-13-2009 09:43 AM

I took off the distributor coil wire and the J-boot and put a jack under the bellhousing and jacked the engine up, which tilted it forwards, allowing me to get a 10mm socket on a set of extensions onto the sensors no problem. I have big hands too and it was not difficult once I got at them. The distributor coil wire came off as it gets close to the headlight bar when I jacked the motor up and the J boot came off because it starts to bend when you move the motor that much, and I didn't want it to crack.


I do not think it would be worth taking the intake off as you would have to disconnect the fuel lines, vac lines on the bottom (a pain) and then get new intake gaskets to reassemble.

I spent about a half hour staring at the sensor area just planning my method of attack, moving things around, etc.

krystar 07-13-2009 09:45 AM

nice pics.

seriously after looking at that, i'm glad i swapped on a clutch when i dropped my engine. i don't wanna drop the trans! hehe

1985porsche944 07-13-2009 09:45 AM

Good job with the documentation. I just did the clutch job and some or it was a PITA. Exhaust bolts are dificult to do. Along with the sensors on the top of the engine.

krystar 07-13-2009 09:48 AM

nice pics.

seriously after looking at that, i'm glad i swapped on a clutch when i dropped my engine. i don't wanna drop the trans! hehe

JoshB 07-14-2009 11:25 AM

Great pics!

J1NX3D 07-14-2009 07:06 PM

i've got this to look forward to this weekend :(

CJFusco 07-14-2009 09:42 PM

Thank you for this detailed post. I will be doing a tranny swap this weekend (or starting one, at least), so the pictures are useful.

If you ever need to do a head gasket job on a 951, I have a pretty detailed write-up on this site.

Schumi 07-15-2009 02:49 AM

Already checked off a head gasket job on my list...

I've done every job associated with these cars now except a torque tube rebuild, bottom end rebuild, and oil pump. It's amazing how simple the car has become in my mind from what it was when I first bought it.


That means it's time to move on to a turbo...

John_AZ 07-15-2009 05:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Schumi (Post 4774256)
Is there a procedure for checking the TT bearings? I guess I will go check clark's...

TT failure begins with noise and vibration at all rpms in gear. My plan is just buy a used if it happens.
You might enjoy doing a rebuild.
http://www.rennbay.com/torque.html
http://forums.rennlist.com/rennforums/924-931-944-951-968-forum/465869-mechanic-says-my-new-torque-tube-will-be-noisy.html

GL
John_AZ

many944s 07-15-2009 06:03 AM

Nice write up!

P.S. I like the spotless tranny :)

-Nick

Zero10 07-15-2009 08:52 AM

I just drop the entire drive-train on the ground, transmission bracket, rear suspension, torque tube braces, front struts, everything. Makes life so much easier. It sounds harder until you do it, the only catch is you need an engine hoist and you have to remove a bit more wiring. I think its worth it since you will then have a clear shot at any bolts or nuts you need to reach.

philliporsche 07-15-2009 11:16 AM

Nicely detailed Schumi, goes a long way in showing what to expect when you think " Its just a clutch job"! how hard can that be?.

adrian jaye 07-16-2009 05:01 AM

damn fine job !

:) :)

chitown944 07-16-2009 12:54 PM

Buying a trubo eh...perhaps I'd entertain an offer...Ive been thinking about selling her...and oh yeah me and my buddy Borys just finished the clutch job and a brake booster a couple weeks ago


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