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v2rocket_aka944 11-16-2012 01:59 PM

It helps to remove the nose panel to put the top fitting on, but not necessary. Just less working room. If you remove the bumper you can see how it slides into place.

Gawernator 11-16-2012 02:12 PM

I ask because my nose panel is pretty much non-removable... not sure what happened or if maybe it's somehow accident related... but when I removed it once, all the bolts and everything were off and it wasn't budging, I ended up pulling REALLY hard and it came off halfway and ended up scraping off paint on the edges of the fenders... and was an extreme pain to get it back on and had to pry metal into place and what not..

Aussie944S 11-17-2012 12:42 AM

Man if I knew of this when I did my rip down I would have got one as well, give me a few months and I'll get one, even though my ac is awesome in this Aussie heat being awesomerrrrrrrrrr would be nice.

v2rocket_aka944 11-17-2012 08:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Gawernator (Post 7096334)
I ask because my nose panel is pretty much non-removable... not sure what happened or if maybe it's somehow accident related... but when I removed it once, all the bolts and everything were off and it wasn't budging, I ended up pulling REALLY hard and it came off halfway and ended up scraping off paint on the edges of the fenders... and was an extreme pain to get it back on and had to pry metal into place and what not..

Your car is an 83, the nose panel is welded in place from the factory lol...there are about 30 spot welds on the underside of the panel that you have to drill out to remove the panel.

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Originally Posted by Aussie944S (Post 7097156)
Man if I knew of this when I did my rip down I would have got one as well, give me a few months and I'll get one, even though my ac is awesome in this Aussie heat being awesomerrrrrrrrrr would be nice.

australia, what a place...hot part of the year is when i put on a sweater...i should be able to tweak the condenser so it works "upside down" :p as im sure you know shipping will be a bit more

Gawernator 11-17-2012 09:49 AM

No, my 86. Lol

Aussie944S 11-17-2012 02:43 PM

Yeah gets kinda warm here, I'll let you know when i'm ready with a pm. ATM as I mentioned my Porsche fund is at $6 plus I only realised yesterday I didn't replace my rotors which need doing like asap what's you estimate on total cost to get me one sent down under?

v2rocket_aka944 11-17-2012 04:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Gawernator (Post 7097593)
No, my 86. Lol

Hmm, thought I read yours as an 83, oh well. Check under the headlight rubbers if there are any small nuts holding the panel on still...the front structure is a PITA sometimes.

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Originally Posted by Aussie944S (Post 7097971)
Yeah gets kinda warm here, I'll let you know when i'm ready with a pm. ATM as I mentioned my Porsche fund is at $6 plus I only realised yesterday I didn't replace my rotors which need doing like asap what's you estimate on total cost to get me one sent down under?

US shipped cost is $275, I would estimate another $50 max for shipping to the island, so $325?

v2rocket_aka944 11-20-2012 01:20 PM

A better picture of the condenser installed on the car...you can see how the hose ends must be changed.

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1353446445.jpg

v2rocket_aka944 12-08-2012 07:58 AM

bump

Gawernator 01-10-2013 11:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Aussie944S (Post 7097971)
Yeah gets kinda warm here, I'll let you know when i'm ready with a pm. ATM as I mentioned my Porsche fund is at $6 plus I only realised yesterday I didn't replace my rotors which need doing like asap what's you estimate on total cost to get me one sent down under?

$9,001 USD :D:rolleyes:

v2rocket_aka944 01-11-2013 03:23 PM

For anyone else potentially interested in one of these condensers, I am gathering parts to do 3 at once so building one for you would be easy for me...PM me.

v2rocket_aka944 02-20-2013 08:42 AM

30 years of rocks and birds versus brand new...

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1361378547.jpg

Gawernator 02-20-2013 10:59 AM

Sweetness! Is that for me? ;)

v2rocket_aka944 02-21-2013 01:36 PM

No, yours will be even cooler.

Gawernator 02-21-2013 11:37 PM

yay

mattdavis11 02-22-2013 05:43 AM

Sam's club has cases of R134a (12-12oz cans) for $55, and 30lb cylinders for $80. Buy now before it gets hot! Parallel flow condensers are far superior to the old tube and fin and serpentine micro tube condensers.

The difference is surface area. With a larger surface area, the refrigerant will have a greater delta T when discharged from the condenser, thus creating more efficient operation and lower temperatures.

What kind of vent temps are you seeing after converting to R134a and changing the condenser?

v2rocket_aka944 02-22-2013 08:00 AM

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Originally Posted by mattdavis11 (Post 7288696)
Sam's club has cases of R134a (12-12oz cans) for $55, and 30lb cylinders for $80. Buy now before it gets hot! Parallel flow condensers are far superior to the old tube and fin and serpentine micro tube condensers.

The difference is surface area. With a larger surface area, the refrigerant will have a greater delta T when discharged from the condenser, thus creating more efficient operation and lower temperatures.

What kind of vent temps are you seeing after converting to R134a and changing the condenser?

I wish it were so cheap out here. You can't go to a store and buy three cans of R134a for $60. CA charges a deposit of $10 per can, only refundable when you return the empty can...base price is about $15/12oz...:(

When I first installed this condenser on my car a few years ago, in a Southern California July, I was measuring 28* coming out of the vents with an IR thermometer gun, idling in my driveway.

Gawernator 02-22-2013 01:51 PM

**** that deposit, -_-

SWERYD 03-13-2013 10:54 PM

Summer is right around the corner. Very interested in getting one of these. Special details sent in separate PM.

Gawernator 03-13-2013 11:04 PM

Can't wait for mine, it's starting to get close to the 80's here!


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