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rich 05-04-2009 04:23 PM

Tell me about the Cayenne
 
What can you tell me about your Cayenne?

I heard the engine is the same as an audi A8 engine. Is that so?

Anyone have pics of the engine with the cover off?

Any link to engine photos?

What type of transmission do they have?

Tiptronic style? any manual trans ones out there?

I've been thinking about how cool these Cayenne's are. They intrigue me..

vadimkag 05-04-2009 08:27 PM

Just buy one you won't regret, bast handling ever.

rich 05-04-2009 08:37 PM

I wouldn't mind getting some info before going to the stealer. I don't want to look like a total noob.

stealthn 05-04-2009 08:39 PM

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Originally Posted by rich (Post 4644572)
What can you tell me about your Cayenne? --450+HP of latte hauling goodness

I heard the engine is the same as an audi A8 engine. Is that so? -- What's an Audi?

Anyone have pics of the engine with the cover off? --I've seen some pics on other forums

Any link to engine photos?

What type of transmission do they have? --A big one

Tiptronic style? any manual trans ones out there? --Yes the newer models

I've been thinking about how cool these Cayenne's are. They intrigue me..

-- hmmmmm

rich 05-04-2009 08:46 PM

Thanks Bob, That was just about useful. :D

vadimkag 05-04-2009 08:47 PM

Its a Porsche... you need a test drive.

rich 05-04-2009 09:09 PM

Have you guys ever opened the hood?

vadimkag 05-04-2009 10:00 PM

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Originally Posted by rich (Post 4645168)
Have you guys ever opened the hood?

We dont have too ;)

rich 05-04-2009 10:23 PM

I thought I was on a technical forum. Glad you like your cup holder. I'll check for real info elsewhere. You guy go back to your coffee and bling meeting.SmileWavy

vadimkag 05-04-2009 10:58 PM

You want info go to dealler :D

rich 05-05-2009 06:27 AM

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Originally Posted by vadimkag (Post 4645308)
You want info go to dealler :D

This place is a boob forum. Wayne should add a sub heading for you special people. Something like: "Suit wearing pinky lifting boars with no spell check forum."

Most forums welcome in new people not show them how ignorant they are. I have come to the conclusion you know less about your Cayenne than I do. Good luck with that.

vadimkag 05-05-2009 03:53 PM

ha ha go nada.com

I know my spelling is horible but I drive Cayenne every day to work and I love it...

r_towle 05-05-2009 03:57 PM

Serious questions and no response. hmmm

I have been thinking of harvesting one of these motors for a project I am doing.
I would really like to see some technical data.

What are the sites that have this type of information?

Are there Cayenne hot rod sites? People must have chipped these things and changed the motors by now...hell this is what we do, isnt it...we cant leave things alone, that is to boring.

At least point to some of the sites that might help out.....please

Rich

vadimkag 05-05-2009 04:01 PM

http://www.cargraphic.com/index.php?/s,6,7,18,709/

r_towle 05-05-2009 04:45 PM

Thank you, but carbon fiber mirrors, a shiny muffler and wheels are not what I was talking about...

Does anyone really build these cars up, or are they to new at this point?

Rich

JHoffman 05-05-2009 06:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rich (Post 4644572)
What can you tell me about your Cayenne?

I heard the engine is the same as an audi A8 engine. Is that so?

Anyone have pics of the engine with the cover off?

Any link to engine photos?

What type of transmission do they have?

Tiptronic style? any manual trans ones out there?

I've been thinking about how cool these Cayenne's are. They intrigue me..

Rich,
Not trying to be rude but your questions were very vague. We need to know what you are exactly looking for since there are now 9(gen1 v6, s, t, ts and gen2 v6, s, gts, t, ts) different cayenne variants. Most answers could be found with a simple google search.

To answer your questions:
Engine is not the same as the A8. The V8 in the cayenne is only in the cayenne. In the q7 the 4.2 is shared with the a8. The V(r)6 cayenne from what i understand is very close to the t-red v6.

The cayenne can be had with both tip and manual trans. They are both 6 speed.

Without the covers on the engine it looks pretty much the same. Most of what you see are part of the engine.

rich 05-05-2009 09:07 PM

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Originally Posted by JHoffman (Post 4647010)
Rich,
Not trying to be rude but your questions were very vague. We need to know what you are exactly looking for since there are now 9(gen1 v6, s, t, ts and gen2 v6, s, gts, t, ts) different cayenne variants. Most answers could be found with a simple google search.

To answer your questions:
Engine is not the same as the A8. The V8 in the cayenne is only in the cayenne. In the q7 the 4.2 is shared with the a8. The V(r)6 cayenne from what i understand is very close to the t-red v6.

The cayenne can be had with both tip and manual trans. They are both 6 speed.

Without the covers on the engine it looks pretty much the same. Most of what you see are part of the engine.


Thanks for sharing. That wasn't so hard was it? A real exchange of questions and answers just like the big forums do.

I don't mean to be rude but you people have my hair standing up on the back of my neck. If you don't have anything nice to say like maybe... welcome SmileWavy Glad you found us!;) Let me show you my mods! Don't say anything at all.

I don't understand why my post was so confusing.

heard the engine is the same as an audi A8 engine. Is that so?

Answered, Thank you.

Anyone have pics of the engine with the cover off?

Well? Do ya or don't ya?

Any link to engine photos?

Well.....?

What type of transmission do they have?

Tiptronic style? any manual trans ones out there?

Answered both of the above, thank you.

Most other boards and members I frequent try to give a few more details and attempt to be more helpful, but I think I made progress here.

So, Does anyone have a photo of their engine with the decorative cover off?

I see lots shiny body shots and bling but no pictures of what makes your pig tick.

JHoffman 05-05-2009 11:09 PM

No one has pictures with the engine covers off or a link to pictures of the engine, sorry. I am willing to say, if you go to a dealership and are really looking for a cayenne and not just there to waste the client adviser's time they will be more than willing to remove the covers and let you take pictures. Maybe you can share them with us once you upload them :)

stealthn 05-07-2009 10:21 AM

Guy,

You need to lighten up; my comments were tongue and cheek due to the nature of your questions.

Search is a really useful tool, and most of you questions could have been answered this way.

I do work on my truck, but right now I am working on my 30 year old 911 (sans cup holders).

I found the engine pics (I commented were on another "Renn" site) and I posted them as well as my diagram when I changed the plenum.

We try to keep this forum going but there's not too many posters here there are two other forums that have a lot of good Cayenne info on them but in respect for Wayne I won't post the links as we are trying to make this forum better.

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1241716814.jpg
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1241716829.jpg
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1241716840.jpg
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1241716854.jpg
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1241716868.jpg

vadimkag 05-07-2009 03:54 PM

WOW asome

rich 05-08-2009 01:19 PM

Outstanding Bob! As an outsider to your group I didn't catch the humor in your post. I went to another site with Cayenne owners that were an extremely nasty lot on warrantee weenies and even less helpful than what I received here.

My questions may have seemed low tech to you but up here in the great white north the closest dealer is 180 miles away. I would prefer to find a social site of enthusists and just talk cars.

Now, You need to see I'm a serious Porsche guy and a real seat of the pants reverse engineer. Some of you may have figured out what I'm up to. Some may have not.

So, Meet the Alien.

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1241813868.jpg
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1241813927.jpg
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1241813968.jpg


Anyone wishing to see the car in the raw I will be in So Cal next weekend at the WCR. Here's a link to the event posted here on the Pelican 914 site. http://forums.pelicanparts.com/showthread.php?t=453820

JHoffman 05-08-2009 06:29 PM

I was on that other forum and they treated you the same there as here. You just are like an itch in you grundle. Fun to pick at but annoying as hell in public.

rich 05-08-2009 09:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JHoffman (Post 4653499)
I was on that other forum and they treated you the same there as here. You just are like an itch in you grundle. Fun to pick at but annoying as hell in public.

So, I guess I'm too serious by nature because if you making a joke I still don't get it.

And what's with the bling jocky and warrantee weenie treatment? Are the Cayenne sites more like the jock crowd at a high school trying to impress the girls or are there serious Porsche enthusist's on these sites?

Who are the real gear heads here?

ChkbookMechanic 05-08-2009 11:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rich (Post 4653745)

Are the Cayenne sites more like the jock crowd at a high school trying to impress the girls or are there serious Porsche enthusist's on these sites?

I'd say the majority of the Cayenne owners aren't DIYers but they still might be enthusiasts.

I'm more a fan of Pelican due to the DIY nature of the board, the other ones don't really seem to have that attitude.

There is one board with some DIY articles, but they are for pretty basic stuff like oil change and brake pad change. On one of the sites I posted a DIY install of a Dension Gateway 500 with instruction on how to make a custom bracket and basically got blasted for it. So I really don't post anything useful on that site anymore because of it. I should probably post it up here at Pelican since the people here might find it interesting.

However, I think it'll be a little while until more DIY articles start appearing because the majority of the cars are still under some sort of warranty.

Quote:

Who are the real gear heads here?
I guess that defines on what you call a gear head. I'd consider myself one and I'm sure other people would consider themselves one as well. Some people just aren't as comfortable tinkering on their new car - which I can understand - as they are an older one.

Knock on wood, but, things really haven't had a chance to go wrong and have solutions known like the air-cooled 911s, 928s, 944s, etc. where there is a nice long history of problems, solutions, preventative fixes.

I spend most my time tinkering on my 911 either fixing or upgrading it. I'm glad my Cayenne Turbo has been reliable and is under warranty, I don't mind doing the maintenance on it. The inspection lists are easy to find and most of the maintenance comes down to change fluids, check pads, check the drive line.

I'm just rambling now, but this is just my 2 cents.

stealthn 05-09-2009 07:11 AM

I am a do it yourselfer, but I know my limits. My 79 does not have a computer, ECU, or any options. It's fun to work on.

My Cayenne probably has 12 computers, and I am glad it's under warranty. I've changed the plenum, air filters, cabin filters, oil and next is the cat bypass pipes. I don't wish to do anymore as that's what the warranty is for. If it was out of warranty (and reliable) it would be a 650 HP beast :D

The issue is expense, mods are expensive and repairs are even more. I'd rather spend my money on the 79 to keep her going.

If you want answers to good questions please post them here as we need to get this a more technical board, but either not much goes wrong with them, or they're too expensive to fix.

Cheers

JHoffman 05-09-2009 07:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by stealthn (Post 4654164)
My Cayenne probably has 12 computers

Would my job be tons easier if there were only 12. A base 986 has about that. A fully loaded cayenne can upwards of 20+. I feel bad when I need to sell a control unit out of warranty. I need to learn to fix them.

ChkbookMechanic 05-09-2009 09:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by stealthn (Post 4654164)
I've changed the plenum, air filters, cabin filters, oil and next is the cat bypass pipes. I don't wish to do anymore as that's what the warranty is for. If it was out of warranty (and reliable) it would be a 650 HP beast :D

How do you like the plenum upgrade? I was impressed when I looked at the hoses into the plenum and saw Porsche installed metal bands on them to prevent them from deforming when in boost.

I agree on the 650HP beast, I love looking at the EVOMS 650/700 kit.. but then I remember the CTT is my DD and I rarely get to use its 450hp (but I find excuses to use it).

Quote:

If you want answers to good questions please post them here as we need to get this a more technical board, but either not much goes wrong with them, or they're too expensive to fix.

Cheers
+1

Quote:

Originally Posted by JHoffman
Would my job be tons easier if there were only 12. A base 986 has about that. A fully loaded cayenne can upwards of 20+. I feel bad when I need to sell a control unit out of warranty. I need to learn to fix them.

The problem with the newer control units is the design of the circuit board itself. If you look at the old Motoronic ECUs, the traces are actual wire between the components where with the new units they are traces inside the silicon. Fixing a frayed or disconnected wire is much easier than fixing a trace.

Granted, you could cut the trace with an exacto knife then solder a wire to complete the path.. of course, then you run the risk of throwing off some real time system with the added resistance and impedance of a wire vs. trace.

stealthn 05-09-2009 10:52 AM

Plenum made a good difference, it breathes much easier now (plus the BMC's) and a lot of the lag is gone. Is it worth the money; probably not, is it the way Porsche should have had the turbo's in the first place; absolutely.

Once I get my cat bypass pipes on I think all the mods will come together nicely.

m21sniper 05-13-2009 02:33 PM

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Originally Posted by rich (Post 4644572)
Tell me about the Cayenne

Vastly overpriced VW Toureg for people that need to have a Porsche Crest on their vehicle.

That's my take.

stealthn 05-14-2009 06:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by m21sniper (Post 4661868)
Vastly overpriced VW Toureg for people that need to have a Porsche Crest on their vehicle.

That's my take.

Stick to swooning over American Idol contestants in Off Topics ;)

m21sniper 05-14-2009 11:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by stealthn (Post 4662962)
Stick to swooning over American Idol contestants in Off Topics ;)

Hehehehe.

I've repo'd a few Cayennes, a standard model and an S. I drove the **** out of them to decide if they deserved to wear that gold crest.

My impressions: The base model, no way. The S model, 'maybe'. I am sure the Turbo would be fun, but that thing is a boatload of cash.

Whatever you go with, good luck!

ChkbookMechanic 05-19-2009 04:05 PM

The turbo is definitely the way to go. I highly recommend lightly used since their depreciation curve is pretty damn steep. Plus, it leaves more money to dump into your second car which you can now haul with the Cayenne Turbo..

matt f 06-19-2009 11:00 PM

Rich,

Just got an 09 GTS with the 6 sp. manual.
It is black/ havanna alcantara.
I will post pics as soon as my daughter will forfeit some of her precious time to show me how.
I love the GTS. Hit the sport setting for the exhaust and the sound is terrific.
Suspension in comfort mode is truly smooth, yet little body roll.
Suspenion in sport is excellant, a true difference can be felt when driving.
Got the optional 21" wheels with 295's. I usually have the suspension at the lowest setting for driving. The truck looks squat and fat. there is one lower setting for loading but can't drive in that setting.
I do know the engine is not shared with audi. This is a 405 hp NA PORSCHE engine.
No regrets.
IMO the 6 sp. manual is the way to go. I have driven the other. SOS.
I realize this is mostly subjective info. and not some of the specifics you asked for.
Hope this helps a little.

Matt F


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