new porsche cayenne pic and some tech

[Kurt B]

An SUV that does a 5 flat is awesome: A twin turbo SUV.

If they had produced a Ranger, that would be different. No, they've produced something worthy of the elite German engineering.

For Porsche to get kudos over a racecar, they'd have to produce one that flew at mach 2.
Instead, if this thing is everything we want and expect from Porsche, it will gain a lot of attention. The P-name will gain still another level.

Now when all the hot shots in their F-150s are racing folks, they will not be able to say to themselves "Well, that Porsche is a sportscar, of course, he'll beat me."
"No Bobby Blow Boy, that's Soccer mom in the SUV...go for it! Want me to get out and help push?"


Porsche owned Le Mans et al for many years. Still, during the 80s crunch, when they were producing some of the best 911s ever, they almost went under.

Point has been proven by Porsche.

The only thing you guys worry about is what I worry about:

When Soccer mom pulls away from me at a stop light with an SUV filled with kids on their way to Pizza hut. She doesn't even notice the sweat pouring down my face and I slam it into and out of gears trying to keep up.
And in the end, all I see is some little brat giving me the finger out the back window.


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Kurt B
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[Doug Zielke]

Blah, blah, blah....I asked a real automotive expert (Mrs. Zielke) for her opinion...

Answer:
"Honey, when can I trade the 4-Runner in?"

I hope they sell a bunch of them, and with the bulging coffers, get back to the track and kick some BMW and Audi arse!

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[old_skul]

It's the only SUV that will qualify for the "S" in "SUV".

I'd like one. I could use a vehicle that can carry drywall or plywood sheets 0-60 in a flat 5. Hell, my 911 can't do that.

My only question: Will they be making the Cayenne 30 years from now?

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Mark Szabo
1986 911 Targa 3.2
1987 Escort 5-speed 1.9 RIP
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[Renos]

According to a rumour printed in the "911 & Porsche World" magazine the V8 twin-turbo Cayenne has beaten a 996 Turbo around the famed Nurburgring circuit.
If this rumour is substantiated I am sure that all doubters will have to shut up forever (especially owners of the antiquated pre-964 series).

[1.2gees]

I don't know about the 996 TT, but the cayenne is aimed at beating the new M3 (around nuremburgring), which is BMW's version of sports cars... Not only is this thing going to be faster/better handling/braking, etc. than a regular 'sports car', but it will have UTILITY! There's nothing wrong with that IMO.

Do you guys really think that the soccer moms are going to opt for the v-8 TT when they can get a v-8 OR a v-6? And even so, IMO a dumb driver is a dumb driver, and is dangerous regardless of what he/she drives. The accelerating/handling power of a vehicle rarely get you in trouble! the lack of high braking, and handling capabilities do. On top of all that, I think an idiot in an excursion is still by far more dangerous.

Are you going to cry if they make the Carrera GT cause it's going to have leather? Afterall, the most focused sports cars don't come with leather right? The 73RS didn't have it! Well, guess what times are changing! Porsche (again IMO) does not take pride in making the fastest road going machine, they take pride in making some of the worlds best looking, fastest, most reliable, most comfortable sports cars that you can drive to/from the movies, track, and work. It's been this way for a while too, the 911 has always been a luxurious sports car, the 928 was definately a good sports car too, it wasn't air cooled, nor as hardcore, but no worse than the 911. For the hardcore drivers, they still have more focused versions, like some of you said the GT2 (ala 73 911 RS).
Ahmet

-I pity the fool who disagrees with me

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[This message has been edited by 1.2gees (edited 08-14-2001).]

[pacmyster]

Slap a wig on me and call me Sheila!!! I'll be the first soccer mom on this board if the damn thing is affordable!!!


Pete

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[speeder]

Must agree with 1.2gees- There is an old saying,(really old), "you can make a brick fly if you give it enough power". I am not calling this SUV a brick, but let's remember that straight-line performance is hands-down the easiest accomplishment in all of automotive design. It has never been what Porsche is all about and I am surprised(but not), that they are going to sell a 400HP SUV. Kia could build and sell a 200MPH car- big deal.
What has Porsche been all about in the past, some young reader might be wondering? Numero uno would be winning races which one has to finish in order to win. This is why no nitrus-oxide injection option ever made it on to their street cars. Numero dos would be producing what is arguably the best all around every day usable supercar the world has ever seen. (With head-snapping acceleration, dangerously fast top-speed and awesome brakes and handling, incidentally).
Back in the 50's Porsche had a great ad for 356 with testimonial from great race driver ,(was it Sterling Moss?), said "it is not the biggest, the fastest, or most powerful. What it is- is simply the best thing of its kind in the world. The pleasure of driving it every day is almost indescribable" THAT is what Porsche used to be about and that little car mopped the floor with the sports car competition on the track at that time.
Forgive me my rant- I must be getting old, folks.

[83 sc euro cab]

wouldnt Porsche be wiser to develop an electric car to compete with that Honda Insight which gets 52 mpg?
I would think the SUV market is flooded already.

I see crazy women driving 80+ on the highway in their SUV's (Jeep, Ford, Dodge, etc). I cant imagine if they get a Porsche SUV!

a racing SUV? I dont think so! Center of gravity is too high.

[pwd72s]

- I must be getting old, folks. Me too, Speeder, me too!

[stray15]

Originally posted by speeder:

What has Porsche been all about in the past, some young reader might be wondering? Numero uno would be winning races which one has to finish in order to win. This is why no nitrus-oxide injection option ever made it on to their street cars. Numero dos would be producing what is arguably the best all around every day usable supercar the world has ever seen. (With head-snapping acceleration, dangerously fast top-speed and awesome brakes and handling, incidentally).
Back in the 50's Porsche had a great ad for 356 with testimonial from great race driver ,(was it Sterling Moss?), said "it is not the biggest, the fastest, or most powerful. What it is- is simply the best thing of its kind in the world. The pleasure of driving it every day is almost indescribable" THAT is what Porsche used to be about and that little car mopped the floor with the sports car competition on the track at that time.
Forgive me my rant- I must be getting old, folks.

That was well written. I couldn't agree with you more. I don't think it has anything to do with you getting old, I'm just the ripe age of 19.

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[kr911]

I do not think this is official yet but it looks like Ferrari builds its own SUV too.

http://forums.vmag.com/suvsubaru0499/messages/3738.html

It's the end of the world as we know it...

[plain fan]

Agree with you, speeder.

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