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[JMS935]

Originally Posted by dwelle

dude. take your axe grinding up with adam personally. it's tiresome here, and has been since you started that ridiculous thread railing against him. we get it. we're also perfectly capable of forming our own opinions about the folks that post on here, don't need your help. please move on.



since you invoked the Dou$he word here, who's calling the kettle black?...

I 2nd this. You should really chill your forum bullying a bit littleoldman. Yeah, Adam must be a really terrible guy because he was able to turn his hobby and passion into a business, that’s just awful. How dare he...

[littleoldman]

"GET off my LAWN" Said one dou%he to ALL the others!!!! LOL

And yes, since you seconded the post by Dwelle (circa 4th grade in-class Election), I guess this is DONE.

That said, you all seem very Trumpish as well....we still have Free Speech, right? If you don't like it, don't reply to my threats. I am obvioulsy hurting. Its an obvious cry for attention, and your responses feed it. This is Phycology 101. Alternatively, when you see my name, skip reading. My post is just my POV. I really just need a hug Dwelle and JMS935.

You all are much more easily bothered than Adam...he just ignores it as he gets it everywhere he goes. Its old hat to him.

BTW - JMS935 - do you have a 935? I am looking to buy one.

[dwelle]

two members offer reasonable and level headed responses to one of your posts, and this is your response?! well done. next you invoke the notion that we ALL seem very trumpish.

yeah.

free speech is guaranteed. so are the consequences for what we say.

keep on keepin' it classy, amigo...

[Matt Monson]

Originally Posted by dwelle

dude. take your axe grinding up with adam personally. it's tiresome here, and has been since you started that ridiculous thread railing against him. we get it. we're also perfectly capable of forming our own opinions about the folks that post on here, don't need your help. please move on.



since you invoked the Dou$he word here, who's calling the kettle black?...

While I agree with you in theory Adam picked the scab. Takes two to tango.

[voitureltd]

[QUOTE=littleoldman;

BTW - JMS935 - do you have a 935? I am looking to buy one.[/QUOTE]

Street 935s? I know of two that are for sale. One early Kremer K2 now on BAT ( closing tomorrow ) that is in Seattle. The Other is a 1984 Kremer street 2, the 2nd one of that series. It is in the LA area. The owner is Teddy Dann a friend of Phil Hill as years ago they drove it cross country to CA from Florida. He recently called me to let me know of his intentions to let it go. Also one 1976 Kremer ( Vaillant livery ) 934 race car that John Starkey mentioned a few weeks ago. Not sure if that one is still available. A little off topic but thought you ( or others ) might want to know of these.

[JMS935]

Like Anthony said littleoldman, you should clarify if you're looking for a street 935, which is just a modified 930, or an actual 935 of the racing variety.

Anthony, I assume you're talking about the black one that has been for sale on and off at GT Auto Lounge for the past couple years or so. That car confuses me, it has no exhaust, just what looks to be a wastegate, and the brake vent opening fins are all wrong. I also recall the engine bay missing its crucial Kremer intercooler. The wheels, good lord please change those ugly things, it needs DP 9" and 13" 15's on it, with negative offsets. Maybe I just listed why this car hasn't sold, these all need to be addressed in my opinion.

[voitureltd]

Yes, he said it recently had been offered thru a dealer in Sacramento ( GT Auto Lounge ? ) when he called but maybe not anymore. It seems to have had some not to my liking changes over the years as it needed restoration from being frequently used, however it is Kremer stamped as #2 of that series. Some good stories on it so might be worth researching from the info available from Teddy Dann. I have his contact info for any that might want to know more. I would have been interested in knowing more about it but I have the Kremer I want. Yes the wheels, intercooler, exhaust are changed out, why?. Mine has 9 X 15" fronts & 13 X 15" rears that are 3 piece BBS which is what Kremer used on mine. DP cars are built to different specs than Kremer cars in many ways from my experience. Maybe when in restoration they sourced DP parts for Teddy's car.

[JMS935]

You could spec BBS from either DP or Kremer, and while many spec'd BBS, that doesn't necessarily mean they are more appropriate for the car. Every Kremer 935 wears a DP body kit, so it seems to me that DP modified Fuchs wheels would be far more appropriate for the car than a set of aftermarket BBS wheels even though they were ordered with the car. At the end of the day, it really comes down to personal preference since they are easy to swap out, and I think there's no better wheel in existence than DP's ultra deep dish negative offset Fuchs.

[voitureltd]

I've never had a DP or the DP wheels. I do know that BBS was used by Porsche for their race cars and Kremer primarily built race cars. And yes from my limited experience Kremer did source DP Kevlar body panels for many of their race or street cars. Who originally designed that 935 body style, whether Kremer or DP is a mystery to me. I think DP did well from it's exposure with Kremer and took off with production of 935 style cars in the mid 80s. I remember talking to them @ a Northridge auction when they had 2 examples. One mild one and one that was a fully optioned out street version. Very impressive at the time. They both had the now famous paint scheme as on the "Kremer?" now on BAT.

[specialtyoneinc]

So much negativity over a pair of refurbished fuchs
Best of luck with the sale.

[voitureltd]

This is the paint scheme & body on a 76 Kremer which was similar to the ones I saw @ Northridge in 85-86. Seems they both used each others ideas, no? This is the full Kevlar body style as on mine ( mine even has the exhaust opening in the bumper as this 76 has) without the DOT bumpers that most US DP and Kremer 935 that I've seen were built with.

[voitureltd]

The front.

[JMS935]

Anthony...Kremer never fabricated their own body panels back then, whether they are doing so now on their own I couldn’t tell you, but it’s only Kremer Racing by name now, as one brother died and the other one sold the business soon after. Either you choose not to believe me on this topic, or you’re just in denial about it for whatever reason. It wouldn't make your car worth any less, but it’d sure help you to know the full history of your car nonetheless.

The ultimate Kremer car is the Walter Wolf K3, I think we can both agree on that. It is easily the most valuable of all the DP and/or Kremer street 935 cars, and probably by a long shot. I suppose you are of the belief that the body on that car was designed and fabricated by Kremer too, right? Well it wasn’t. They used bodywork designed by DP Motorsport on ALL of their builds, including their one off TRUE 935 K3 built for the street.

As I have said before, and I’ll say it again, every street 935 Kremer built, regardless of its body style, has DP Motorsport dna in it since the bodies used on ALL of those cars were designed by DP Motorsport. If you won’t believe me, then ask someone else in the know. I’m just stating how these cars were built back then, that is all.

[SalParadise]

Originally Posted by voitureltd

The front.

The front looks much better than the back. The backside looks like a VW Bug conversion.

[nathanbs]

Originally Posted by JMS935

Anthony...Kremer never fabricated their own body panels back then, whether they are doing so now on their own I couldn’t tell you, but it’s only Kremer Racing by name now, as one brother died and the other one sold the business soon after. Either you choose not to believe me on this topic, or you’re just in denial about it for whatever reason. It wouldn't make your car worth any less, but it’d sure help you to know the full history of your car nonetheless.

The ultimate Kremer car is the Walter Wolf K3, I think we can both agree on that. It is easily the most valuable of all the DP and/or Kremer street 935 cars, and probably by a long shot. I suppose you are of the belief that the body on that car was designed and fabricated by Kremer too, right? Well it wasn’t. They used bodywork designed by DP Motorsport on ALL of their builds, including their one off TRUE 935 K3 built for the street.

As I have said before, and I’ll say it again, every street 935 Kremer built, regardless of its body style, has DP Motorsport dna in it since the bodies used on ALL of those cars were designed by DP Motorsport. If you won’t believe me, then ask someone else in the know. I’m just stating how these cars were built back then, that is all.

I think you misunderstood Anthony as he is fully acknowledging that DP made the kits for Kremer. I think he was just being inquisitive of whether Kremer possibly had any involvement or influence in the design of the kit.

[atreat]

... yah so ... glad to see we're all happy and getting along now. Oh by the way, I still have those mint refurb'd Fuchs. Asking $3k ... shipping from Tampa... just sayin'

[JMS935]

Originally Posted by nathanbs

I think you misunderstood Anthony as he is fully acknowledging that DP made the kits for Kremer. I think he was just being inquisitive of whether Kremer possibly had any involvement or influence in the design of the kit.

Ah, got it. I must've misunderstood. Of course they did, DP did all of the aerodynamics (body) mods, while Kremer did all of the performance (engine, etc) mods when this relationship began. These body mods were being applied to 935s that the Kremer brothers were driving in the racing circuit after all, so naturally there was some level of collaboration between them.

[Unobtanium-inc]

Originally Posted by littleoldman

THIS THREAD IS NOW CLOSED...The might OZ has spoken:


Originally Posted by atreat View Post
I have slightly thicker skin than that, plus i figure these trolls either can't afford to do much other than claim near perfect Fuchs are 'worthless'. Or they are still living in their parents basement and still really want to kiss a girl that isn't their cousin. Either way, I am sure I'll find a buyer and that person will be thrilled with the purchase.
- i hope you clowns realize people actually post here to get help, not this b.s.

Yeah, you'll find a few here who are a very vocal peanut gallery, not sure if they ever really do anything, just take jabs at other people when they try and make a move. As far as the pricing of your wheels, the market will tell you if you're off, that's my rule. I'm not wrong often, but when I am I let the market tell me, not the peanut gallery.

---Adam
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Adam, a Self Proclaimed Porsche God, a guy more like TRUMP than he knows, has declared our "open conversation" irrelevant.
I wish him and his smarter Silent brother/partner all the best, but I really wish I would never see his Unobtanium ***** all over these here pages.

He professes Unobtanium. Is it me - or is the market flooded with parts, cars and seller. Unobtanium my a$$.

He is the biggest POS on this here Pelican site...a Porsche Villian. Buying cars from people at lower than market and FLIPPING them.

He is a ruthless, arrogant, marketer.
Ugg....I could rant and all forever on this Dou$he...but I did that once and its a fabulously long Post so why am I starting another...I am not sure, but seeing his JackA$$ comment just boils my blood.

Disgusted with his presence here.

Sorry, I missed this, I'm currently touring Nor Cal with the kids and not on-line as much as usual. Not sure how to really address everything that was spewed here so I'll stick to a couple of points.
1. In my experience in the car world it is usually the biggest nuts or nutcases that get angry when you point out the silliness of said peanut gallery and judging by the nerve I seem to have struck here I'm gonna go with the idea that I rattled the nuttiest nut in the peanuts! Because somebody got mad.
2. As far as Unobtanium at Unobtanium, anyone who has swung by our place can attest to the pieces of Unobtanium on the walls, things like Peter Gregg's RSR ducktail, or pieces of real 550 Spyders, or how about the cars what pass through our doors, the standouts of the last couple of years have been everything from a Carrera Speedster to a Twin Grill Roadster, and a Super 90 at that. Let's think about the unobtanium-ness of such a car. Porsche only made 249 twin grills, and of those only 58 were given the Super 90 powerplant, so I'm gonna go with a car like that being pretty damn Unobtanium! You can watch a video here that we made on the car and don't worry to those that can't stand the sight of me, I'm only in about 4 secs of the video.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0j2h290tCIQ

Like I said, I don't really know how to really address the spew that was written here except to say dude is angry and probably not just at me. Now back to redwood watching!

---Adam

[1979-930]

^^^ If you head to Mendocino check out Caspar Beach.
Buy your kids a skimboard and watch the sunset with a campfire on the beach.




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[Unobtanium-inc]

Originally Posted by 1979-930

^^^ If you head to Mendocino check out Caspar Beach.
Buy your kids a skimboard and watch the sunset with a campfire on the beach.




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We were in Half Moon Bay yesterday, the water was pretty cold.

---Adam