Trying to decide whether to sell my 80SC - Sunroof Delete

[kreeshp]

Whenever I think about selling anything from my fleet, the two questions I come back to are:

1) How easy will it be for me to find another one of the one I'm selling, for a reasonable price?

2) How much will I regret selling it if I can't find another one for a reasonable price?

Regret is a terrible feeling and you'll find lots of postings in these forums from folks who sold their cars too soon and regretted it.

[manbridge 74]

Originally Posted by QueWhy

No you can’t. You’ve tried the model T argument before, it doesn’t work. Way way way more model T were built than all the air cooled 911 combined and they still sell for more than they did new(adjusted for inflation)

Yeah, pretty weak example. That’s an undesirable car for most because it’s terrible for any over the road stuff except maybe parade duty.

Meanwhile, everything of a high performance limited production nature is big bucks going back to the 1930s at the least. Heck, I’d take a 1970 Ram Air III Formula Firebird. Like an old 911 about $40K for an original example. Same with many others...

[Nukar sales]

Having bought and sold hundreds of Porsches jaguars,190sl british sport cars and every muscle cars on the planet, there is is a window of time in which all types of cars are hot! I have watched the values of muscle cars continue to drop, and Porsches air cooled are following that trend,millennial don,t care about the classic,s they like rice rockets, sell before the boat leaves.

[SalParadise]

Originally Posted by kreeshp

Whenever I think about selling anything from my fleet, the two questions I come back to are:

1) How easy will it be for me to find another one of the one I'm selling, for a reasonable price?

2) How much will I regret selling it if I can't find another one for a reasonable price?

Regret is a terrible feeling and you'll find lots of postings in these forums from folks who sold their cars too soon and regretted it.

Actually, I don't see much regret when people move on from here - because they aren't around posting anymore. It's amazing how fast a material item fades from memory once you take the mental step and let it go - and that step comes fast when it leaves the driveway and you're on to the next best thing.

As Bob Dylan says, "Funny, how the things you have the hardest time parting with
Are the things you need the least." I agree. But when people are reading and hanging onto this strange string of so-called future values I say its time to sell. It's not worth it to store, moth-ball, insure, or generally worry about to maybe make a couple grand. A SC is not a RS. And hilariously now, a SC is not even a midyear.

[Rawknees'Turbo]

Originally Posted by SalParadise

. . . But when people are reading and hanging onto this strange string of so-called future values I say its time to sell. It's not worth it to store, moth-ball, insure, or generally worry about to maybe make a couple grand. . . .

Totally agree, Private Sal, and along those lines, it seems like the peeps who talk about not driving their cars due to worry about what might happen to them , or the horror of adding miles and wear and tear to the machine, might be better off selling, as well.

[bpfordfan]

Originally Posted by trader220

This topic has been beaten to death. Sure the car will be worth more without global economic melt down. Will it be a good investment compared to conservative stock market investments, history is clear the answer is no.

If they pass the green new deal you can bet it's no

The green deal😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

[Kansas]

Except for the very rare collector car, which most of us can't afford anyways, classic cars are a horrible investment! Sure, you can usually make your $$ back on what you paid initially, but when considering insurance, maintenance, tax, fuel and storage, you're gonna take a hit financially. The aircooled 911 is a car to be loved, cherished, enjoyed and DRIVEN!!! That is the payoff! That is the investment. To me, no other classic car offers that. The aircooled 911 experience is enough for me. If you're looking for an investment, buy into AOC's "GREEN NEW DEAL"...it's a sure thing.

[87maniac]

Compare costs of ownership:

1) 3.2 G50 bought in 2013
vs.
2) ANY new vehicle 2013

[Nukar sales]

Sal paradise, i,m a total dylan head you have good taste, but bob also said it,s not dark yet but it,s getting there.

[trader220]

Originally Posted by 87maniac

Compare costs of ownership:

1) 3.2 G50 bought in 2013
vs.
2) ANY new vehicle 2013

This is a ridiculous comparison.... why would you compare a 25 year old car that's already been through the decay cycle to "any" new car? What makes the comparison even less relevant even more ridiculous is your time frame. You want to compare them just prior to the biggest price jump ever for the G50 model, an appreciation which did not continue and cannot continue.

[sugarwood]

Originally Posted by SalParadise

As Bob Dylan says, "Funny, how the things you have the hardest time parting with
Are the things you need the least." I agree.

Interesting line, but you never weigh parting with things you actually need. No one is parting with their fridge. So, you only ever mull parting with things you clearly don't need. So, anything you part with, you did not need. By definition.

Can you make a Dylan "deep thoughts" playlist on Spotify and share it here?

[manbridge 74]

Originally Posted by Nukar sales

Having bought and sold hundreds of Porsches jaguars,190sl british sport cars and every muscle cars on the planet, there is is a window of time in which all types of cars are hot! I have watched the values of muscle cars continue to drop, and Porsches air cooled are following that trend,millennial don,t care about the classic,s they like rice rockets, sell before the boat leaves.

Well, when then. I’d love it if all old cars had about a $10K price limit. I buy for me not some future payout or person. Ever heard of BAT? Old cars and other vehicles get crazy money there...

Maybe after another 2008 type recession. Until then color me still waiting.

[kreeshp]

Originally Posted by kreeshp

Whenever I think about selling anything from my fleet, the two questions I come back to are:

1) How easy will it be for me to find another one of the one I'm selling, for a reasonable price?

2) How much will I regret selling it if I can't find another one for a reasonable price?

Regret is a terrible feeling and you'll find lots of postings in these forums from folks who sold their cars too soon and regretted it.

Originally Posted by SalParadise

Actually, I don't see much regret when people move on from here - because they aren't around posting anymore. It's amazing how fast a material item fades from memory once you take the mental step and let it go - and that step comes fast when it leaves the driveway and you're on to the next best thing.

As Bob Dylan says, "Funny, how the things you have the hardest time parting with
Are the things you need the least." I agree. But when people are reading and hanging onto this strange string of so-called future values I say its time to sell. It's not worth it to store, moth-ball, insure, or generally worry about to maybe make a couple grand. A SC is not a RS. And hilariously now, a SC is not even a midyear.

Had to circle back to this with my rebuttal. I follow the Rennlist and Pelicanparts 911 forums very closely (I don't post much but I spend hours reading, studying, and learning daily/nightly), since 2011/2013. Sellers who regret selling is a VERY common theme.

This posted just today - http://forums.pelicanparts.com/porsche-marketplace-discussion/1023379-964-c2-vs-c4-prices-trying-buy-one.html#post10387263

"I just sold my 91 C4 73,000 original miles
original everything including paint, perfect car absolutely beautiful
needed nothing, had sport seats.
55K..........and I'm kinda sorry I sold it "

[trader220]

Originally Posted by kreeshp

Had to circle back to this with my rebuttal. I follow the Rennlist and Pelicanparts 911 forums very closely (I don't post much but I spend hours reading, studying, and learning daily/nightly), since 2011/2013. Sellers who regret selling is a VERY common theme.

This posted just today - http://forums.pelicanparts.com/porsche-marketplace-discussion/1023379-964-c2-vs-c4-prices-trying-buy-one.html#post10387263

"I just sold my 91 C4 73,000 original miles
original everything including paint, perfect car absolutely beautiful
needed nothing, had sport seats.
55K..........and I'm kinda sorry I sold it "

You only hear about the sellers who regret selling because all of the other sellers don't have any reason to come and post ..."hey I just sold my 911 and I am stoked"

People sell their cars for all sorts of reasons, they just don't need to post about it.

Go read the classified section....."selling because I just don't use it much anymore"

You'll see that one plenty too, big deal.

[kreeshp]

Originally Posted by trader220

You only hear about the sellers who regret selling because all of the other sellers don't have any reason to come and post ..."hey I just sold my 911 and I am stoked"

People sell their cars for all sorts of reasons, they just don't need to post about it.

Go read the classified section....."selling because I just don't use it much anymore"

You'll see that one plenty too, big deal.

Not interested in a pissing contest with anyone. I am not saying there are no happy sellers, simply refuting the claim that some "don't see much regret" from sellers.

On the contrary, I continue to see / have seen plenty of it. If you choose to ignore it, don't mistake that for there not being any.

Also, why would a seller post about regret in a for sale posting? -- he hasn't sold it yet. The regret part comes AFTER the sale.

[Rawknees'Turbo]

Originally Posted by kreeshp

Not interested in a pissing contest with anyone. I am not saying there are no happy sellers, simply refuting the claim that some "don't see much regret" from sellers.

On the contrary, I continue to see / have seen plenty of it. If you choose to ignore it, don't mistake that for there not being any.

Also, why would a seller post about regret in a for sale posting? -- he hasn't sold it yet. The regret part comes AFTER the sale.

So do I; very common to see Pelican members lament their decision to sell their 911 or 930 and some almost immediately start pining over the desire to buy another one (and some make that happen).

[JBQuick]

What is the mileage on this SC ?

[trader220]

Originally Posted by kreeshp

Not interested in a pissing contest with anyone. I am not saying there are no happy sellers, simply refuting the claim that some "don't see much regret" from sellers.

On the contrary, I continue to see / have seen plenty of it. If you choose to ignore it, don't mistake that for there not being any.

Also, why would a seller post about regret in a for sale posting? -- he hasn't sold it yet. The regret part comes AFTER the sale.

No one said there wasn't anyone who regrets it. What I am saying is that those who don't have any regrets are not likely to come to a Porsche forum and start posting they have no regrets. That being the case to say the majority or even a high percentage of people regret it based on comments on a Porsche forum is just not particularly relevant.

[996AE]

Having owned dozens of P cars in my 40 + years drving them, I have never been a collector or keeper. I enjoy, take great care, enjoy them and pass along. I always loose money. Dont care about cars as investments.

Each car is different and each car is enjoyed for its uniqueness. From 1973 911S to my two 930s and many many cars in between now modern cars. All fun and different.

Life is short.


Enjoy.

[fxdp]

yea i have 3 turbos next to my regulator in boca when im not at my house in bermuda or splashing around in my regulator im driving them through wine country

life is short lol

comon man