3.0 CIS System Complete 1983 Whats it worth

[juanbenae]

and here I thought the "exterior thickness" blast would be what hooked ya!!!

[CBA]

Originally Posted by CBA

Juan,

What is your motor and carb setup? I’m sure I hunt through the forum but since you here.....

Figured it out went to your garage. Nice setup.

[juanbenae]

Originally Posted by CBA

Juan,

What is your motor and carb setup? I’m sure I hunt through the forum but since you here.....

early, single plug, big port 3.oL, recurved dizzy, 9.5/1 JE pistons with the webcam 120/104 grind, topped with weber 40's. ive jetted it to my sweet spot with 160 mains, 60 idles, F8 ET & 175 air corrections at sea level.


if I had it to build over I might have used a different cam profile that should have influenced a leaner idle circuit. the 120/104 is great from about 3k RPM & up through 6700 RPM (rev limiter set at 7000rpm) with a ton of pull. I had the heads done with stiffer spring and titanium retainers anticipating wanting to get into the higher rev ranges.


in all my research and limited experience carbs are just gunna need to run rich. there is a fine line between lean coughing up through the stacks, flat spots in transition and achieving a good usable power throughout both circuits. I obsessed on it early on, but reading plugs regularly throughout the tuning process and since with them looking good ive grown used to it.

[juanbenae]

Originally Posted by CBA

Figured it out went to your garage. Nice setup.

thank you for the kind words!

[Rawknees'Turbo]

Originally Posted by juanbenae

and here I thought the "exterior thickness" blast would be what hooked ya!!!

Speaking of which, I hear that Nathan is sporting posterior thickness , butt don't know if that is true, or just fake news!

[juanbenae]

^^^ raw, love the bold font use, way to drive it home my man!! but, if you use the boldened font too much it loses it's effectiveness... it's akin to writing fragile on every box when you move. what you'll find is no box is then shown any extra care...


I suggest if you MUST multi-bolden points in the same post to capitalizing your main-est point.....

[Rawknees'Turbo]

Good point (not THAT point! ) about limited use of bolden text, Tobs, but I am not very familiar with the concept of moderation. Hell, look at where I live; the land of gluttonous excess in all things (food, homes, truck size, hat size, sports stadium size - including middle and high school stadiums, guns, and even fake boobs!). That said, I'll attempt to temper my TexASS sized ways and follow your more rational bolden level of posting.

If I recall, when pNutz got his nads nipped by "his sensei", that dude only use one bolden word to batter pNutz's cheeks (all four of them!) - hmmmmmmm!!!

[juanbenae]

Originally Posted by Rawknees'Turbo

If I recall, when pNutz got his nads nipped by "his sensei", that dude only use one bolden word to batter pNutz's cheeks (all four of them!) - hmmmmmmm!!!

that was some serious vengeance like whoop a$$ poor silly pnutz endured that time... I felt bad for him even with my under developed caveman ability to feel compassion.

id prefer my sensei be mad at me over him being disappointed in me any day. you know ol nutz lost some sleep over tony-boy being so condescending & hurtful to him when he only wants to please...

[Rawknees'Turbo]

^^^

I'd wager that ol' pNutz had a case of baboon-butt after that lil' incident that not even the most potent, hemorrhoidal balm could soothe!!!

[Rawknees'Turbo]

Originally Posted by Matt Monson

The boost boys will never know the anazing sound of the engine as a set of carbs crack open. The closed system and the impeller on the turbo really hinder the sound that is a flat six on full song.

Agreed about that, but one way that a CIS Turbo sort of makes up for that is when you replace the huge, mailbox air filter housing with a short, cone filter mounted directly on the air metering assembly's intake (the turbo CIS has a suck through air metering arm/housing - not a blow through like the n/a CIS, and does not operate in a vacuum state), and then remove the vacuum limiter (aka- deceleration valve) so that closed throttle response is the same as a n/a car (revs no longer hang and slowly reduce during closed throttle) - this results in a very nice sounding whooosh noise, through the yuuuggggeee air opening for the metering arm/disc, that says, "ballz!!!" (totally different than the sound of BOV venting to atmosphere - hard to describe in text). My father likes to joke that the noise mimics the downward movement of the fuel gauge needle.

[pmax]

Nice gratitude for someone who saved your azz from another whipping by the CIS dude.

[Rawknees'Turbo]

Originally Posted by pmax

Nice gratitude for someone who saved your azz from another whipping by the CIS dude.

Ha ha - Toby's sense of humor did not square with some of the Pelican Puritans in the thread I think you are talking about!

[pmax]

Originally Posted by Rawknees'Turbo

Ha ha - Toby's sense of humor did not square with some of the Pelican Puritans in the thread I think you are talking about!

Yeah, the caveman turning tail after one punch was a letdown !

[Rawknees'Turbo]

Originally Posted by pmax

Yeah, the caveman turning tail after one punch was a letdown !

One thing I've learned first hand is that it is a fool's errand to argue with the forum self-righteous; most often best to just move on to a more tolerant and accommodating barnyard

[pmax]

Originally Posted by Rawknees'Turbo

One thing I've learned first hand is that it is a fool's errand to argue with the forum self-righteous; most often best to just move on to a more tolerant and accommodating barnyard

... even dick pics, LOL !

But yeah, tech forum can use some humor, it's oh so serious over there... fireworks too when the wrong parties engage.

[juanbenae]

Originally Posted by pmax

Yeah, the caveman turning tail after one punch was a letdown !

im much more complicated than you or your pony-boy will ever know apparently nutzie. once the Nancie's had complained enough to have that sweet image removed I was done enhancing that thread by continuing to contribute...

sometimes I think you get it, and then you say sum stupid ***** and im not so sure...

[matt930s]

With friends like pnutz.....

Originally Posted by juanbenae

im much more complicated than you or your pony-boy will ever know apparently nutzie. once the Nancie's had complained enough to have that sweet image removed I was done enhancing that thread by continuing to contribute...

sometimes I think you get it, and then you say sum stupid ***** and im not so sure...

[pmax]

Originally Posted by juanbenae

im much more complicated than you or your pony-boy will ever know apparently nutzie. once the Nancie's had complained enough to have that sweet image removed I was done enhancing that thread by continuing to contribute...

sometimes I think you get it, and then you say sum stupid ***** and im not so sure...

What image ?

Wait, there is another caveman azz whupping thread besides the aforementioned CIS beatdown ?

[Rawknees'Turbo]

Dayyyyuummmmnnnn, this thread has it all - even Phatt showed up, instigatin' and perpetratin'!


pNutz, the thread Tobs and I referred to was one in 911 tech where a dude was asking about a basic troubleshooting problem with 914 headlights. Toby posted a funny pic/meme making fun of that, and a couple sensitive guys took offence. A moderator then deleted the meme.

Which CIS thread has a beatdown in it? I missed some asshattery and am feeling left out!!!

[1979-930]

Originally Posted by Matt Monson

The boost boys will never know the anazing sound of the engine as a set of carbs crack open. The closed system and the impeller on the turbo really hinder the sound that is a flat six on full song.

To be fair a properly modified turbo has amazing sounds of it's own.
The turbo whine combined with the buzz of the flat six that is drastically louder when the twin waste gate open up on boost.
There is no hiding the sound of an engine when that's going on.
And all that is complemented with amazing cackles & pops at shifts and on decel.

To me it's the best sounding car ever. And the daily complements back it up.

Plus if your engine doesn't scorch the paint under your bumper, it should.


Butt what do I know. I'm just a Big Ol Di*k Head