Air cooled prices trending down

[speednme1]

Originally Posted by Matt Monson

Not Hillary at all. Kasich was my guy. Trump is just scum. He was before he was elected and he's still scum. He's a white collar criminal from the big city who sold America the biggest con in history. He alone can fix it. He doesn't have a clue what he's doing other than to sow discord. He's bad for the nation.

I am having some health issues, but I'm not really sure why you'd care. You've never once said a kind word to me. I don't mean shyte to you. I don't mind if someone despises me, but please don't pretend to be nice to me.

If you want to make peace, make peace and get over your hard on for me. You've had it since the moment I asked about the 356 Porsport bought that you wanted for yourself. I wasn't sympathetic to your complaint, and so from that point forward I was the enemy because I didn't "like" and "share" your thread. Ever since there's been this smart arse back and forth hostility between us. Let it go and it goes away.

Matt please stop comparing scum to Trump, scum doesn't deserve the comparison

[pmax]

Originally Posted by brisboats

"Daft" Wow who the heck even uses such vernacular. Its dual meaning of enamored and silliness suggest an underlying and improper grasp of basic English and it's proper use.
Oh wait It's just MM , nuff said.

B

It was much better with the zingers intact.

Just sayin'

[techweenie]

Not sure how the orange s h!tgibbon got dragged into this, but back to the market.

I'm seeing super strong prices on the best cars now, as I have for the past 3-4 years.

But if the mix of cars on the market is diluted with weak, needy cars, then overall, prices are lower.

Give me a good longitudinal study any day: a specific 911SC in unchanged condition priced to market over a 10-year period. I'm betting that car's price isn't 'trending down.'

[piscator]

Originally Posted by techweenie

Not sure how the orange s h!tgibbon got dragged into this, but back to the market.

I'm seeing super strong prices on the best cars now, as I have for the past 3-4 years.

But if the mix of cars on the market is diluted with weak, needy cars, then overall, prices are lower.

Give me a good longitudinal study any day: a specific 911SC in unchanged condition priced to market over a 10-year period. I'm betting that car's price isn't 'trending down.'

Tech, the car you're describing is the 1979 SC Targa that's been in my family from the day it was born. It's received proper maintenance it's entire life with no significant mods. It's as close to new -- 'unchanged condition' -- as I can make it.

I can't provide a carefully recorded study of it's market value, but the purchase offers I've received, over the years, have gone no-where but up! Not soaring, at any particular time; not up and then down, just up.

I get offers on the car almost ever year. And, usually several seemingly legitimate offers (from flippers) in the spring. Two things have always amused me. The first is how the offers seem to rise incrementally each year. I haven't charted it, but I suspect it would be an upward curve.

The second is when I get offers from several 'local dealers' (one year I had four) their numbers are pretty close and seem to include the same sum added to bait me. In other words, the people who approach me, seem to know their business pretty well.

Of course, this is all from memory, but it reflects the gist of my experience. Over the years I haven't been approached by private individuals wanting to make a wild bid on their dream car. And I haven't been approached by guys throwing 'low-balls.' I've always found this annual incremental march of my cars value intriguing.

But lastly, I have to say that I don't like it! Like others, I miss the days when these cars were affordable to many more guys looking to get involved in and contribute to the hobby. Those days when I could have purchased a second 911, just to mod and have fun with. That's now out of my reach.

Sorry for such a long response to simply say that I agree with your assessment.

[Matt Monson]

Originally Posted by brisboats

"Daft" Wow who the heck even uses such vernacular. Its dual meaning of enamored and silliness suggest an underlying and improper grasp of basic English and it's proper use.
Oh wait It's just MM , nuff said.

B

You must be pretty daft for me to come back after a couple of years just to flirt...

[techweenie]

Originally Posted by brisboats

"Daft" Wow who the heck even uses such vernacular. Its dual meaning of enamored and silliness suggest an underlying and improper grasp of basic English and it's proper use.
Oh wait It's just MM , nuff said.

B

The irony of a criticism about misusing 'proper English' incorporating an "its/it's" error is precious.

[Vaive]

Originally Posted by techweenie

The irony of a criticism about misusing 'proper English' incorporating an "its/it's" error is precious.

What do you mean? The corrects its (possessive) was used to describe daft's meaning and the correct it's (contraction of it is) was used to refer to MM

[ficke]

Buyers are getting wiser and needy cars are priced accordingly as are no need cars.

[wgwollet]

Below is why I like the 1978-79 930 the best of there 15 history

76-85 - handcrafted, welded (vs. stamped) fender flares
76-79 - no electronic gizmos (no power seats, power locks, ABS, etc.)
76-79 - Jekyll & Hyde turbo kick, with a waste Gate spring set at 0.8 bars
76-79 - 3-spoke leather steering wheel
78-79 - 3.3 liter, intercooler, more power and larger fuel head than 86-89s
78-79 - heavier than the 76-77 but lighter than the 86-89’s
78-79 - leather dash
79 - only year Porsche won Le Mans with a RSR Group 5, 935 (homologated
930)
79 - last year of the true “930” VIN
78-79 - only 2 years Porsche built a Turbo with a Intercooler but no Catalytic
Converter. After 1979 the turbo did not pass US NITSA emissions.
78-83 - are a bit more torquier then other years.

[wgwollet]

Oops forgot the brakes
Other features of this rare car:
78-79 – Front, cross-drilled floating rotors derived from the Porsche 917 race cars. These brakes were so exotic, expensive and rare, the Porsche 911 Turbo factory manual recommended upgrading to the post-1980 930 single piece front rotors if they ever needed replaced (Porsche probably had few replacements in stock). When my brakes were acting up in 2006, I almost made this mistake but decided to keep the original floating rotors on the fronts (against the recommendation of the Porsche+Audi dealer at the time).

[nathanbs]

Originally Posted by Vaive

What do you mean? The corrects its (possessive) was used to describe daft's meaning and the correct it's (contraction of it is) was used to refer to MM

There’s 3 its/it’s. You missed one.

[Vaive]

Originally Posted by nathanbs

There’s 3 its/it’s. You missed one.

D'OH!

I stand corrected. As the great Meatloaf once said, 2 out of 3 ain't bad.

[Mocker]

Originally Posted by wgwollet

Below is why I like the 1978-79 930 the best of there 15 history

76-85 - handcrafted, welded (vs. stamped) fender flares
76-79 - no electronic gizmos (no power seats, power locks, ABS, etc.)
76-79 - Jekyll & Hyde turbo kick, with a waste Gate spring set at 0.8 bars
76-79 - 3-spoke leather steering wheel
78-79 - 3.3 liter, intercooler, more power and larger fuel head than 86-89s
78-79 - heavier than the 76-77 but lighter than the 86-89’s
78-79 - leather dash
79 - only year Porsche won Le Mans with a RSR Group 5, 935 (homologated
930)
79 - last year of the true “930” VIN
78-79 - only 2 years Porsche built a Turbo with a Intercooler but no Catalytic
Converter. After 1979 the turbo did not pass US NITSA emissions.
78-83 - are a bit more torquier then other years.

78-79 - Sport seats are better than later ones
78-early 79 - Snorkels!

[nathanbs]

Originally Posted by Mocker

78-79 - Sport seats are better than later ones
78-early 79 - Snorkels!

not to be uber technical but if we are only referring to 930's both the seats and snorkels were available starting in 75 otherwise starting in 74 911 for both I believe

[E911]

Agree on all of the above... 78/79 930!

[trader220]

Grammar Police....

License and registration please.

"Do you know why I pulled you over?"

[brisboats]

Originally Posted by Matt Monson

You must be pretty daft for me to come back after a couple of years just to flirt...

Good on you for the second time around you used the seldom used an old English/ British origin adjective " daft" without being redundant. First time, well let's face it you were on your high horse insulting another member trying to make yourself feel better.

Something you take pleasure in and probably pleasure yourself to. ( That's only just one and Its.. (sic) for you Pmax.) Everyone deserves a second chance. Bye ol' bud really hope you feel better and take care.

B

[dwelle]

Originally Posted by trader220

Grammar Police....

License and registration please.

"Do you know why I pulled you over?"

Originally Posted by brisboats

Good on you for the second time around you used the seldom used an old English/ British origin adjective " daft" without being redundant.

huh?...

[Matt Monson]

Originally Posted by brisboats

Good on you for the second time around you used the seldom used an old English/ British origin adjective " daft" without being redundant. First time, well let's face it you were on your high horse insulting another member trying to make yourself feel better.

Something you take pleasure in and probably pleasure yourself to. ( That's only just one and Its.. (sic) for you Pmax.) Everyone deserves a second chance. Bye ol' bud really hope you feel better and take care.

B

Last time you left, you said you wanted to bury the hatchet and buy me a beer. You come back with insults. Guess we’re seeing your true colors.

[Rawknees'Turbo]

Originally Posted by Matt Monson

Last time you left, you said you wanted to bury the hatchet and buy me a beer. You come back with insults. Guess we’re seeing your true colors.

There is no guess about that, M2.

BTW, there is plenty of hogwash in the posted 930 years comparo - have to wait until I'm home tonight to post a reBUTTal.