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911heaven 09-30-2021 12:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Matt Monson (Post 11471318)
Lots of posing, posturing, and topping.

Indeed! Bragging is fun sometimes though, yet all in good fun... not to discriminate against the 915 or any folks who are happy as Larry with them. :) A transmission is a transmission, the more/most pertinent component is the engine... no? I have a feeling M2 will not agree with me here exactly or even some others...

matt930s 01-16-2023 05:27 AM

I hope this guy doesn’t drive around Sugar

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/porsche-cars-sale/1132899-1987-porsche-911-carrera-coupe-g50-california-car.html

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Matt Monson 01-16-2023 05:48 AM

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=5qm8PH4xAss

Racerbvd 01-16-2023 06:19 AM

I was going to post that, but he has deleted the post. I wonder if this thread had anything to do with it.

Travisrt1985 01-16-2023 02:15 PM

I call mine the G Diddy 50

911heaven 01-26-2023 05:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Travisrt1985 (Post 11898534)
I call mine the G Diddy 50

Mine was named R 50/50 by Ruf. 6 speed that is in an 89 WPO ROW RUF BTR III -- same box/ratios in the CTR (yellow bird for reference). Since I sold the car last month, well no more bragging rights anymore. We'll just leave it like that...

voitureltd 01-26-2023 12:04 PM

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Originally Posted by 911heaven (Post 11471423)
Indeed! Bragging is fun sometimes though, yet all in good fun... not to discriminate against the 915 or any folks who are happy as Larry with them. :) A transmission is a transmission, the more/most pertinent component is the engine... no? I have a feeling M2 will not agree with me here exactly or even some others...

Yes, good fun. Need a turbo G50 for this motor. Should be on the dyno soon after being laid up for almost three years after a spark plug expulsion. Sounded like I was driving a 50s John Deer tractor back a few miles when it happened. It was 763 engine HP when it left Norwood Auto Kraft in 2003. Now is further HP enhanced with Extreme recast heads, coil on plug latest Motec, etc. Too bad about you letting your RUF go. I would have built a motor like this for it as yours already had a G50 as it was a 89 505/ 506. Purists will not agree.

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Matt Monson 01-26-2023 01:16 PM

That’s about twice what a 915 is safe for running. That’s well into G50 required… and gorgeous.

juanbenae 01-26-2023 06:10 PM

do i get any credit for getting this bumped with actually bumping it?

911heaven 01-27-2023 02:50 AM

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Originally Posted by juanbenae (Post 11907115)
do i get any credit for getting this bumped with actually bumping it?

Only half credit Tobs! pmax would have bumped it a year ago if he were around, so he gets half the credit. That's my jingle -- Oh where o where has my pmax gone, Oh where o where could he be? :)

Is he gone for good? Is he fisher? You must know his where abouts no? I know you must miss him dearly...

911heaven 01-27-2023 05:18 AM

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Originally Posted by voitureltd (Post 11906779)
Yes, good fun. Need a turbo G50 for this motor. Should be on the dyno soon after being laid up for almost three years after a spark plug expulsion. Sounded like I was driving a 50s John Deer tractor back a few miles when it happened. It was 763 engine HP when it left Norwood Auto Kraft in 2003. Now is further HP enhanced with Extreme recast heads, coil on plug latest Motec, etc. Too bad about you letting your RUF go. I would have built a motor like this for it as yours already had a G50 as it was a 89 505/ 506. Purists will not agree.

That is quite the beast of a motor voitureltd! You'll need a beefy G-50 turbo trans for that for sure. Wondering what car it goes into, what is the base of the motor. It is so built that it reminds me of a motor I sold 20 years ago that was 900 HP but Nissan. It was a RB26 TT bored and built to 2.7 on an N1 block. 20K to build it then 20 years ago. I bought it (used) and didn't put it in my R34 GT-R back then, just due to market constraints on value (blue book style) and me being such a street rod guy. Instead I sold it to a freind USA side in CA. I built my motor to a 500 HP spec instead. Not the purist way, but for me just the convenient way. Some regrets now that I look back. I hope your project goes well after 3 years of stalling.

Sending a couple analog pix of the Ruf motor back 24 years ago. That car was a VIN 3.2 carerra until Ruf got ahold of it. It would have had a G-50 5 speed before the event. The commando sweater I'm wearing is worn out by now. I used to wear it a lot after I finished my tenure as a US Navy Seal. :):)




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matt930s 01-27-2023 10:43 AM

:rolleyes:
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Originally Posted by 911heaven (Post 11907298)
That is quite the beast of a motor voitureltd! You'll need a beefy G-50 turbo trans for that for sure. Wondering what car it goes into, what is the base of the motor. It is so built that it reminds me of a motor I sold 20 years ago that was 900 HP but Nissan. It was a RB26 TT bored and built to 2.7 on an N1 block. 20K to build it then 20 years ago. I bought it (used) and didn't put it in my R34 GT-R back then, just due to market constraints on value (blue book style) and me being such a street rod guy. Instead I sold it to a freind USA side in CA. I built my motor to a 500 HP spec instead. Not the purist way, but for me just the convenient way. Some regrets now that I look back. I hope your project goes well after 3 years of stalling.

Sending a couple analog pix of the Ruf motor back 24 years ago. That car was a VIN 3.2 carerra until Ruf got ahold of it. It would have had a G-50 5 speed before the event. The commando sweater I'm wearing is worn out by now. I used to wear it a lot after I finished my tenure as a US Navy Seal. :):)




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sugarwood 02-04-2023 05:45 AM

For sale: 2003 BMW Getrag.

voitureltd 02-07-2023 12:08 PM

911 heaven, quote "That is quite the beast of a motor voitureltd! You'll need a beefy G-50 turbo trans for that for sure. Wondering what car it goes into, what is the base of the motor.

It was and is the original (a since modified motor by Norwood autoKraft ( Bob Norwood ) and trans that was completed in 2002-3 for Anthony Macaluso for this near mint original otherwise, now 38K mile 85 930 . I bought it from Lamborghini Dallas about 10 years ago. I kept the boost down most of the time to 1 bar for around 575 engine hp but it did 763 on engine dyno @ Norwoods in 2003 according to his extensive and enthusiastic Pelican thread ( Amac ) in that time. I was /am happy about getting it albeit needing and now getting some intense motor rebuild & upgrades TLC. The 930 4speed was just fine with the power and torque it generated for my grandpa type of street use. Here are photos of it now waiting for the motor completion. I do like 5spd G50's but too much to change it out now. I have other 700+ HP G50 street 930s but can't justify the expense for the gain of a G50 vs the original numbers matching 4spd for this one............yet.
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Matt Monson 02-07-2023 12:31 PM

A 930 gearbox shares genetics with a 956. If they are geared properly to a car and application, there’s really no need for more than 4 gears.

voitureltd 02-10-2023 08:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Matt Monson (Post 11916860)
A 930 gearbox shares genetics with a 956. If they are geared properly to a car and application, there’s really no need for more than 4 gears.

Did not know so thanks for that info. So, I'll keep it 4spd, also as it has numbers matching motor and trans. If I were ever to DE it (which I wouldn't) I suppose the G50 might get it around Road America a few seconds quicker. With the power and torque it has it would not be necessary for how and where I drive.

Matt Monson 02-10-2023 08:50 AM

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Originally Posted by voitureltd (Post 11919542)
Did not know so thanks for that, as it has a numbers matching motor and trans. If I were ever to DE it (which I wouldn't) I suppose the 5spd would get it around Road America a few seconds quicker. With the power and torque it has it would not be necessary for how and where I drive.

Big fast tracks are where the leggy nature of the 930 4spd really excels. For RA, it would leave 1&2 stock, and shorten up 3rd and 4th a bit, and you’d be golden.

Just yesterday I was talking to a client about whether he stays 5spd or converts to 6spd. I made the point about how more isn’t always better. Every time you shift, there’s .2-.25 seconds where you aren’t on power. So let’s say the extra gear has you shifting 6 more times per lap (3 up and 3 down). That’s a second and a half, or so per lap. More gears allow greater driveability in a race situation with traffic and such, but as a general rule on a fastest single lap qualifying type situation, it’s rarely faster unless it’s been optimized for a specific track.

911heaven 02-22-2023 07:33 AM

[QUOTE=voitureltd;11916835]911 heaven, quote "That is quite the beast of a motor voitureltd! You'll need a beefy G-50 turbo trans for that for sure. Wondering what car it goes into, what is the base of the motor.

It was and is the original (a since modified motor by Norwood autoKraft ( Bob Norwood ) and trans that was completed in 2002-3 for Anthony Macaluso for this near mint original otherwise, now 38K mile 85 930 . I bought it from Lamborghini Dallas about 10 years ago. I kept the boost down most of the time to 1 bar for around 575 engine hp but it did 763 on engine dyno @ Norwoods in 2003 according to his extensive and enthusiastic Pelican thread ( Amac ) in that time. I was /am happy about getting it albeit needing and now getting some intense motor rebuild & upgrades TLC. The 930 4speed was just fine with the power and torque it generated for my grandpa type of street use. Here are photos of it now waiting for the motor completion. I do like 5spd G50's but too much to change it out now. I have other 700+ HP G50 street 930s but can't justify the expense for the gain of a G50 vs the original numbers matching 4spd for this one............yet.
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Thanks for sharing voitureldt! Sorry for the late reply...

Beauty of a car! Had the same wing for my Ruf, though not a purist then at least. Looking forward to seeing the end result in time vicariously. God speed...


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