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nathanbs 07-18-2019 10:32 PM

Wow but why Mecum?
 
This one is for you JMS. https://www.mecum.com/auctions/monterey-2019/collections/dp-335-collection/

Rawknees'Turbo 07-18-2019 10:39 PM

Wow is right! I'll take all four (especially the TT), and JMS can kiss it!!! :D

pmax 07-18-2019 11:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Rawknees'Turbo (Post 10529304)
Wow is right! I'll take all four (especially the TT), and JMS can kiss it!!! :D

Wrong auction, Raw'

https://www.ebay.com/bhp/porsche-935-1-18

Macroni 07-18-2019 11:44 PM

Mecum is one large auction house.....

nathanbs 07-19-2019 04:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Rawknees'Turbo (Post 10529304)
Wow is right! I'll take all four (especially the TT), and JMS can kiss it!!! :D

Sorry Dankness these are too bright for you

Matt Monson 07-19-2019 05:09 AM

I don’t care for black cars but have long been a fan of that Andretti car.

specialtyoneinc 07-19-2019 07:05 AM

PPI is must since coming from RMC ;) Cars have been on the market for a long time....

https://i.postimg.cc/F15n4hdG/Screen...8-03-45-AM.png

Mocker 07-19-2019 07:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Matt Monson (Post 10529495)
I don’t care for black cars but have long been a fan of that Andretti car.

Maybe because it's navy blue!:D

Matt Monson 07-19-2019 08:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Mocker (Post 10529671)
Maybe because it's navy blue!:D

;) Yes it is. But it's so close it sets off my black alarm. I would never want to own it for the same reasons I hate black cars. It's gonna be hot. It's going to scratch and swirl really easily and be a nightmare to keep clean. Call it blackish.

speednme1 07-19-2019 08:47 AM

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Originally Posted by specialtyoneinc (Post 10529612)
PPI is must since coming from RMC ;) Cars have been on the market for a long time....

https://i.postimg.cc/F15n4hdG/Screen...8-03-45-AM.png

They have an interesting collection of cars but a ppi is a must. An Oak Green 930 with RUF bits they have is really nice but they have the story on that car completely wrong. i.e. claiming it was built by RUF...which it wasn't. Nevertheless they seem to obtain cool cars..

voitureltd 07-19-2019 09:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Matt Monson (Post 10529495)
I don’t care for black cars but have long been a fan of that Andretti car.

According to Kremer, this 935 street 2, completed October 1984 build info, for AL Copeland's insurance company ( Popeyes chicken founder ) who owned it from 1986 till his passing in 2008. Additionally there was also a dark blue one that was reportedly built for him ( probably the one @ Mecum auction ), was written about in a article when interviewing people @ DP by a French magazine. Sounds like more than one has a claim of a street 935 being built for him. The dark colors look great on the 935 style, neat DP. http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1563555285.jpg
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1563555418.JPG
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1563555418.JPG

JMS935 07-19-2019 04:05 PM

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Originally Posted by nathanbs (Post 10529302)

Very cool indeed. :cool:

My DP 935 II is the long windshield version as well, though it’s in project form unfortunately. Seeing this one makes me want to start that project. Knowing it’ll cost a lot and take a long time, though, is what’s prevented me from starting it yet.

My other DP 935 would round out that auction pretty well, they're missing a turbo cab version.

Good find Nathan, though I have seen all of these before except for the long windshield version, as the rest are local to me. Knowing how much RMC Miami is asking for the blue one, I kinda doubt these will sell, that is assuming the reserves are in line with their current asking prices. It’ll be interesting to monitor though, that’s for sure.

voitureltd 07-22-2019 06:25 PM

Did not Mecum get this one to auction, but was NS? My favorite DP. It was a Kremer 1976 K2 single turbo 934. A while ago DP fitted it with a 962 motor ( heard ) @ 800HP. Lots of mine would need to find new homes. I guess I could rent out the space where those cars used to be. What a car!! Think I would take it before what DP's currently are being offered @ Monterey. Looks like DP used the similar treatment of this 77 to the rear of the 92" last one built". Someone buy it so I can have some peace.http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1563848206.jpg

voitureltd 07-22-2019 06:29 PM

The rear. The last one built would be a close second on my list. John Starkey drove this one @ a rennsport reunion and remarked it was very fast.
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1563848913.jpg

1979-930 07-23-2019 08:45 AM

I love the Car and Driver car. My Quarter Midget was painted the exact same way in 82.

Rawknees'Turbo 07-23-2019 12:11 PM

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Originally Posted by 1979-930 (Post 10533907)
I love the Car and Driver car. My Quarter Midget was painted the exact same way in 82.

So you painted your d***, Deez?!?! What was the occasion???? :eek:

nathanbs 07-23-2019 12:48 PM

lol Quarter Midget lmao

JMS935 07-23-2019 01:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Rawknees'Turbo (Post 10534118)
So you painted your d***, Deez?!?! What was the occasion???? :eek:

So that’s what he calls it...Does the quarter refer to the girth and the midget refer to the height?!? :eek:
I guess that’s at least better than if he called it a dime midget! :eek:

Matt Monson 07-23-2019 03:08 PM

Sounds a bit of a choad.

nathanbs 07-23-2019 03:22 PM

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Originally Posted by JMS935 (Post 10534183)
So that’s what he calls it...Does the quarter refer to the girth and the midget refer to the height?!? :eek:
I guess that’s at least better than if he called it a dime midget! :eek:

sounds like a tuna can

Rawknees'Turbo 07-23-2019 04:44 PM

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Originally Posted by JMS935 (Post 10534183)
So that’s what he calls it...Does the quarter refer to the girth and the midget refer to the height?!? :eek:
I guess that’s at least better than if he called it a dime midget! :eek:

Deez must have an odd system for sizing things, because based on that d-silhouette pic he posted a while back, I wouldn't have thought midget was in his descriptive vocabulary! :eek:

JMS935 07-23-2019 04:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Rawknees'Turbo (Post 10534405)
Deez must have an odd system for sizing things, because based on that d-silhouette pic he posted a while back, I wouldn't have thought midget was in his descriptive vocabulary! :eek:

Well at least he doesn’t refer to it as a dwarf. 😏

1979-930 07-24-2019 08:32 AM

^^^ Y'all suck. :D
I was like 10 fukars. I'm going to have to scan an old photo now (of the car; don't get excited Raw) and eff this thread up too.

camdon 07-24-2019 08:37 AM

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Originally Posted by speednme1 (Post 10529732)
They have an interesting collection of cars but a ppi is a must. An Oak Green 930 with RUF bits they have is really nice but they have the story on that car completely wrong. i.e. claiming it was built by RUF...which it wasn't. Nevertheless they seem to obtain cool cars..

Always seems to be a story with their cars :confused:

onboost 07-24-2019 09:39 PM

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Originally Posted by speednme1 (Post 10529732)
They have an interesting collection of cars but a ppi is a must.

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Originally Posted by camdon (Post 10534993)
Always seems to be a story with their cars :confused:


Agreed.. as a couple of those cars have clearly been molested. The Ruf bits on the car and driver car? DP made their own ICs which were huge.. Rated at 390hp? This is a turbo charged Motronic car.

The long windshield car is hot too.. however that the engine w/outward appearances looks to be a twin-turboed 3.2 given the intake and what looks to be Carrera dist. I've seen the RS IC before.. but not in a DP application.

Wicked cars none the less but I'm thinking they'll need some serious change to put right once purchased.

Pesch 07-25-2019 04:22 AM

In some magazines, the ones with the DP intercooler (cast ends) were rated around 430hp...


DP was regularly working with RS tuning making some scary fast builds:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WFDp1MBgQJw

gumba 07-30-2019 04:47 PM

Looks like the only one that would be street legal would be the blue one. That being said, the silver one would be my choice.
Funny how most of the DP’s and Kremer’s that come for sale are all missing the correct intercoolers.

JMS935 07-30-2019 05:29 PM

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Originally Posted by gumba (Post 10541655)
Looks like the only one that would be street legal would be the blue one. That being said, the silver one would be my choice.
Funny how most of the DP’s and Kremer’s that come for sale are all missing the correct intercoolers.

None of those are missing their correct intercoolers. 2 were RUF modified and 1 was RS Tuning modified, and all 3 of those have their proper intercooler. The DP III doesn’t show an engine image. As you know, these were all custom orders, so there is no ‘correct’ intercooler even though one with a DP logo seems like it would be the most accurate for a DP.

voitureltd 07-31-2019 08:18 AM

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Originally Posted by camdon (Post 10534993)
Always seems to be a story with their cars :confused:

I bought a 79 930 w/29K miles from Dana Mecum auction with a story. There are ones with stories and with mine it was a good story. After I got it everything checked out fine with COA.
Still one of my favorites to drive after 20 years & 15K miles, and I have owned many others over the years. Now a 40 year old unrestored color to sample vintage hot rod , built 35 years ago to SN ( factory parts ) with period engine, transmission and suspension upgrades, and put together by Alan Johnson racing, San Diego in 83-84. Drive to track on Sunday and to work on Monday type of car that was the "thing to do" for some, back then.
As some have mentioned, Mecum has extensive knowledge and contacts with getting unusual / rare Porsche models ( recently, the McQueen 930 comes to mind ) to auction over the decades. Mine was from one of the largest car collections in the USA. He seems to know these people, hence gets some pretty interesting / unusual offerings for his auctions.

voitureltd 07-31-2019 10:00 AM

[QUOTE=gumba; "the silver one would be my choice" .

Mine also

speednme1 08-01-2019 10:30 AM

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Originally Posted by JMS935 (Post 10541693)
None of those are missing their correct intercoolers. 2 were RUF modified and 1 was RS Tuning modified, and all 3 of those have their proper intercooler. The DP III doesn’t show an engine image. As you know, these were all custom orders, so there is no ‘correct’ intercooler even though one with a DP logo seems like it would be the most accurate for a DP.

I agree, they all seem to have the right intercooler. Some work will be needed on those cars but man they are cool. Hopefully new owners will do right by them and get them properly done....then drive the heck out it!

gumba 08-01-2019 11:31 AM

Ya, I know, but a DP or Kremer i/c would be icing on the cake. Unless there is extensive documentation on the motor, I’d plan on a full service and dyno time to see what’s what.

JMS935 08-01-2019 11:36 AM

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Originally Posted by gumba (Post 10543678)
Ya, I know, but a DP or Kremer i/c would be icing on the cake. Unless there is extensive documentation on the motor, I’d plan on a full service and dyno time to see what’s what.

So you'd still put a DP intercooler on a RUF built drive train and consider it more appropriate? That's what many of these cars are, collaborations between builders.

gumba 08-01-2019 12:40 PM

It may have started out as a Ruf build, but who knows who has laided their hands on it since. That’s why I would want a pape trail.

specialtyoneinc 08-18-2019 09:57 AM

All 4 of the DPs didn't hammer last night. Not surprised at all. Sellers are dreamers.

https://i.postimg.cc/nrS4NCVL/IMG-1884.jpg

https://journal.classiccars.com/2019/08/17/bidders-sellers-disagree-on-values-at-monterey-auctions/

voitureltd 08-18-2019 11:11 AM

Andretti 935 not bid way higher than the others ?
No wonder, the certification letter provided in Mecums display from DP Motorsports just states it appears to have been built with DP parts with out any mention of the " reportedly built for Mario Andretti ".
I do remember a article by a French magazine reporter at that time visiting DP factory and interviewing a person working on a Dark Blue 935 street model mentioning that to him. Oh well maybe that is where that "reportedly built for him" info came from.
An RS lightweight only $200K? Where were the often mentioned chandelier bids? If there was a real bidder and a realistic reserve the bidding could have gone on a long time.
Lots of weakness across most bidding in all the auctions. May have been a great time to buy something. Maybe not just Porsche air cooled but everyone's bubble has leaks?

JMS935 08-18-2019 11:26 AM

So maybe the “reportedly built for Mario Andretti” is the one time the name dropping doesn’t help, as he never took delivery of the car from what Mecum was saying prior to the auction. He didn’t buy it, he rejected it for whatever reason prior to taking ownership. They should just let that car stand on its own - a DP935 II US version.

They are just too attached to sell their DPs. I bet we see all of them at Mecum Kissimmee next.

gumba 08-18-2019 02:39 PM

The dark blue 935 was at Mecum either at the end of last year, or the beginning of this one. It got up to $300K (if the bid was real) with the reserve at $350K. I agree, drop the Mario Andretti thing.
The 2 red ones and the silver one (my favorite) would be a hard sell as I doubt they would be street legal in most states.

omnivore 08-18-2019 05:00 PM

This ‘55 was the coolest P this weekend:http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1566176363.jpg

https://www.mecum.com/lots/CA0819-381054/1955-porsche-tempo-mikafa-sport-camper/

nathanbs 08-18-2019 05:08 PM

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Originally Posted by omnivore (Post 10562857)

Sweet! Did it sell?


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