I’m doing a thing...

[Matt Monson]

Originally Posted by Chris911S

.....so we can all agree, this thread is wildly inappropriate and has absolutely nothing to do with the current Porsche marketplace?

We can agree that you’re a troll looking for drama. You made it about cops when it wasn’t. Civil rights and people needing food because they are out of work from covid-19 aren’t politics. You even called it a conspiracy and blamed Russians. Kettle, meet pot.

[Canine64]

Too bad Sharpton does not have the same caring heart as you do. Maybe he should stop lying and stealing from his people and actually give back instead of being a vile scumbag. Michael Jordan, with a donation of $100,000,000, actually put his money where his mouth is. Other successful black athletes and performers should do the same. Will they? Or is it all on everyone else to lend a hand?

Quoting anything Al has to say is laughable. The only thing he is a “Reverend” to is the mighty dollar. And tax evasion. Instead of having his stomach stapled the surgeon should have stapled his big mouth shut.

[911heaven]

Originally Posted by Matt Monson

Oh God, Jesus just showed up... and he can piss off again. Bernie, you are sick a self righteous prick. Who are you to judge me, you animal abuser?

Go read the FB comment in post #1. Like I stated, I quietly did the donation thing for food banks since covid started in March. We have been doing good works for their sake. The situation with Ahmaud in particular set me off. A man should be able to go for a jog without getting lynched. So to celebrate World Running Day, at the Sierra Club’s suggestion, I did a running fundraiser. And then it occurred to me that I could use my business to do a little more. I don’t do it for attention. I don’t do it to grow my business. It’s costing me money, out of my own pocket, to give away parts for free, that I cannot claim as a tax write off. I am encouraging other people of privilege to give because they can. And I’m putting my money where my mouth is.

I don’t sell retail. I made an exception this one time because I thought maybe some bird board people would participate in return for the hook up on my Parts. I could retire today if I didn’t have two kids I need to think about going to college in 10-15 years. I have more than I will ever need. I’m a bad man looking for worship because I want to make the world a better place? Yeah, Bernie, you’re still a POS.

Sorry Matt, my phone was out of service over the weekend so I couldn't read this. Honestly, I don't think I was judging you at all, just making an observation with my opinion and that is OK if it is an opinion which it was. Going back to the sermon on the mount which you like as you said: Do not judge, or you too will be judged. For in the same way you judge others, you will be judged, and with the measure you use, it will be measured to you.

You seem to judge everyone you have conflict with on this forum. You call me a POS (piece of sh-t was it) and you accuse me of abusing animals? I love all my animals and I train them with a spanking when they need it, and at times they do, particularly the African cat. I don't even do that anymore, and you should have read that from my original account except you are so quick to judge at times when you aren't being treated as royalty.



There was a time when I beat a couple animals to death on a day I will admit. I never remembered that until I went back for the 20th HS reunion in 2000. 4 of us were at the casino on main street having a black berry brandy shot round when Donald said: Hey Bernie! Remember when you beat those two coons to death and Lucky Cables was balling his eyes out all the way home? He said that as he was nearly rolling on the floor laughing. I said after a few moments trying to remember: Oh! I forgot about that, but now that you mention it!

At 12 or 13 years old I took a few friends out to check my traps. Didn't bring the gun that day, for I daily checked them but rarely had a catch. That day on the river I had two huge ferocious coons and no gun. As it was getting toward dusk, rather than having them suffer for another whole day in the traps, I picked up a solid piece of wood and beat them to death in order to get them home and keep them from suffering.

Lucky was a blond long haired sissy, and maybe he got traumatized, but that is just the way the cards fell that day. At least the animals didn't have to suffer for another day, and we got them both home successfully.

Going back to race now and what Rey said, one of the guys in the casino was my Paiute childhood friend Steve. Danny, another childhood best friend said to Steve: Hey Steve, remember how we used to call you Stevie Black?

Steve went ballistic at that point and stormed out of the casino, never attended the rest of the weekend reunion. A few years later he was deceased. At the time he was under 40, but he already looked over 50 and beyond from hard living. Danny wasn't the same guy I mentioned on Real McCoy adventure -- different Danny.

Also, I could say I used to catch foxes, and even though I had a gun on a day, I used to pin them down with a board and grab them, snap their necks with my bare hands, just so as not to put a bullet through the fur on the head. Maybe a bit over board, just to keep the fur more valuable, but I was only 12 or 13 years old and thinking about my little business. Judge me if you want, but it will be measured to you in the same way. I've never called you a POS so take that back if you want or if you can. One time one of those foxes got my thumb in his mouth, punched a hole right through my thumbnail!

bernie

[Matt Monson]

This is my thread, and I have no intention of surrendering it to the haters and the trolls. The only reason I replied to Bernie yesterday, is because I was surprised to see him posting here at all. Afterall, he had recently said this:

Originally Posted by 911heaven

Also, I will take Matt off my ignore list tonight. If this is finished, if we keep our paws to ourselves it will be just swell (dirty Harry line).

bernie

Just another one of his lies. I won't reply to this morning's rant. He's not worth my time.

I don't claim to be perfect and never will. I also don't hate these clowns who come here and talk a bunch of trash. One of my character defects is that if someone comes at me, I respond with the force of a set of Chinese handcuffs. I will call names back and talk shyte. It's what I do. And then I go and pray for my enemy. That's how I live my life in private.

I pray that someday Bernie puts the plug in the jug and ends this constant bipolar Jekyll and Hyde crap that occurs once he's had a bottle of wine or two. My opinion that there's a special place in hell for a man who lays a hand on an animal is meaningless unless he actually cares what I think. Whether he's forgivable is between him and his maker. In the end my opinion is meaningless.

Same thing with our Jewish friend, Chris. I doubt he's Israeli, because he likely would have never left such a wonderful society. Natural born American citizens don't look at our government as our rulers. They work for us, the people, not rule over us. Anyone born here knows that. Probably Polish or Ukrainian or some other Eastern European origin who came here for a better life. Likely thinks because his people suffered through the holocaust and continued persecution in communist nations in the 20th century that our black citizens don't have a clue what persecution is. Whatever. It's no concern of mine. Again, I pray he finds some compassion for his fellow man.

For all of civilization humanity has tried at alchemy to turn lead into gold. They have sought a perpetual motion machine to do work without energy input. There is one thing in this world that causes infinite growth when applied, and that is love. Love yields more love. I don't hate these people. I don't hate the cops who killed George Floyd, or the men who lynched Ahmaud. I feel sorry for them because their hearts are tainted with hate and they don't know love. People like that are damaged. They are hurt. And they are passing it on, and that's very sad.

Exactly a year ago today I woke up feeling like someone had taken a melon baller to my chest. I had 14 biopsies to diagnose that I have growths on my lung and in my lymph nodes that are an incurable disease called sarcoidosis. That was a great relief. The previous 2 years had been spent trying to figure it out, including working theories of CTE, brain cancer, and lymphoma along the way. I was given 2 years to contemplate my own mortality while they figured out if they thought I was going to live or die.

All we leave behind are the memories people have of us and our good works. I do what I do because I want the world to be a better place. I want to be remembered as a man who cared and looked out for his fellow human. It's not an ego thing. It's a love thing. I'm going back to ignoring Bernie's posts after this. And Chris's too. Life's too short to get sucked into other people's hatred and venom. And I'm not my best self when I let it infect me and get me to act out in kind. Life's too short for that.

[dwelle]

Originally Posted by Chris911S

Can someone please explain to me, what any of this thread has to do with “marketplace discussion”?

I think Matt is a douche canoe and I’m sure he feels the same about me but isn’t this discussion better suited for the political forum?

funny you should ask. it started right here, sound familiar?...

Originally Posted by Chris911S

Giving back is admirable.

Your cause is crap.

I can’t think of one case that can conclusively be called call “racism”. Police reform is fine and probably warranted.

I’m not impressed by the virtue signalers who put our updates or drive their sports cars for a bulls*it cause.

Originally Posted by Chris911S

Ironically, you are the real racist.

Despite what I presume are good intentions, you are perpetuating corrosive nonsense. Black people don’t need to be coddled by your liberal bleeding heart. You do them a disservice by force feeding the victim narrative.

[speednme1]

So if Pelican Parts had proposed the same offer as Matt did, would we have the same debate or would many have taken advantage of the offer and moved on?

[thamlin000]

Originally Posted by Canine64

Too bad Sharpton does not have the same caring heart as you do. Maybe he should stop lying and stealing from his people and actually give back instead of being a vile scumbag. Michael Jordan, with a donation of $100,000,000, actually put his money where his mouth is. Other successful black athletes and performers should do the same. Will they? Or is it all on everyone else to lend a hand?

Quoting anything Al has to say is laughable. The only thing he is a “Reverend” to is the mighty dollar. And tax evasion. Instead of having his stomach stapled the surgeon should have stapled his big mouth shut.

Howabout a little R-E-S-P-I-C-T for the old ‘reverend’!!!???

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=VauqXNnFdMs

[pmax]

Originally Posted by Chris911S
.....so we can all agree, this thread ... has absolutely nothing to do with the current Porsche marketplace?

Here ya go ...



Haha, $925 for a 915 gear.

What are they made of ?

[Alan A]

Originally Posted by pmax

Here ya go ...



Haha, $925 for a 915 gear.

What are they made of ?

Metal most likely.
Plastic won’t last very long.

You have a cheaper source of equivalent quality?

[pmax]

Originally Posted by Alan A

You have a cheaper source of equivalent quality?

Haha, what quality ? The geriatic 915 can't even handle 180HP.

[Matt Monson]

Oooh, cost accounting. Fun stuff. Everyone always asks the metal question. I could post a whole article on gear steel. We do use several different grades, all of it motorsports grade originally from aerospace applications. The 915 does get a less grade than what's used in something like a 997 Cup Gear, but still miles ahead of what others are uses. Still it's only about $75-100/ingot. Imagine a hockey puck of steel ready to be turned and ground. Each gear uses 2. So $150 in steel AND another $105 for Porsche OEM synchro teeth. They do charge a Porsche tax and it gets passed on to you.

But the real money is in the machinery. Off the shelf gear hobs of the various modules run around $5000. Ours are F1 quality and design and cost $50K each. You need a bunch of them for various cuts, so let's just say a million bucks in hobs. Then there's the mills and lathes and gear hobbing machines. They range from $.5M to 2.5M each. There's 9 of them in our factory. Let's just say the total $9M. So now you start cutting gears. You've got what is basically a 10 year mortgage on your machines. So you have to calculate how much per hour you need to cover to break, which basically is about covering your note unless you've paid the machine off. Higher quality gears are cut at a slower feed rate. Machines have a lifespan like our cars, and things wear out at certain hours. While it varies some, if you run the machine at 4000rpm versus 6000rpm, it's still going to run out almost as quickly. So to run slower costs you more per unit. It's your $10M capital investment (not counting building/land costs and payroll), that you're covering.

Then there's heat treat and shot peening. Those are subcontracted and each get their own slice. It comes back, gets pressed together and finish ground. Then packaging and freight.

So there's a gear cost breakout. The big part is NOT the steel. Small batch production of these things is expensive. The quality is there. I won't even respond to that sort of junk. One just has to decide if it's worth it, for them. I don't think it is for the guy whose signature used to be "I can't afford that".

[pmax]

$300 handles 600 HP



Oh, yeah, I forgot ... Porsche tax.

[dwelle]

Originally Posted by pmax

Haha, what quality ? The geriatic 915 can't even handle 180HP.

matt’s being polite and indulging your bafoonery.

i won’t. quit being an idiot. the 915 can handle way more than 180 hp and you know that.

if the GT stuff was grossly overpriced, matt wouldn’t be in business.

bad form, even for you...

[pmax]

Originally Posted by dwelle

matt’s being polite and indulging your bafoonery.

i won’t. quit being an idiot. the 915 can handle way more than 180 hp and you know that.

Bet you drive that 915 as S-dope does all the way.

if the GT stuff was grossly overpriced, matt wouldn’t be in business.

I'm sure M2's smart enough to charge what the market can bear regardless of cost.
You know that.

bad form, even for you...

Marketplace forum.

Will the mods agree, ya think ?

[Alan A]

Originally Posted by pmax

I'm sure M2's smart enough to charge what the market can bear regardless of cost.

He wouldn’t be a very good businessman if he didn’t. It’s not like there are millions of the things and he can make his nut on volume.

Originally Posted by pmax

Marketplace forum.
Will the mods agree, ya think ?

Doubtful. This turned into a train wreck early on and it’s still here.

[1979-930]

Soooo; Are we done arguing about COVID 19?
(Pretend it’s in green)


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[pmax]

There're probably a few PCA guys in here who can afford it and help the cause by buying M2's entire inventory !





I would send them a flyer or similar.

[Macroni]

I need to take a vacation........

[dwelle]

Originally Posted by pmax

Bet you drive that 915 as S-dope does all the way.

happy to take yer money on that bet if ya like. i flog the shlt out of my cars every chance i get. contrary to shug (and probably you) i have found the limits of my gearboxes many times and developed my driving accordingly.

Originally Posted by pmax

I'm sure M2's smart enough to charge what the market can bear regardless of cost.
You know that.

as a fellow small business owner, i sure as hell hope so. he'd be a fool not too...

[Matt Monson]

If you take 3 glasses of water and add food coloring it’s still the same old water. Make the connection?
-Prince Paul

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=P8-9mY-JACM