It's 2021. Why the disparity in values of the different g body models?

[Kansas]

Don't understand the disparity in values of air cooled 911 models from '74-'89. We're some 32 to 46 years removed from all these models. Who really cares about the superiority of the G50 v the 915, or the extra HP of the later years, or the pathetic heating and AC systems, or the pros and cons of the fuel injection systems? Most modern V6 Accords and a lot of minivans will outrun these models, not to mention post better 0-60 times. All else being equal, is there really a $20-30K difference between the mid year cars, the SCs and the 3.2s? By now, most problems of the various years have been well sorted: chain tensioners, retrofitted magnesium casings, and upgraded AC systems. They ALL share the same driving experience that make them truly unique and highly sought after. I heard a Porsche valuator a few years ago predict that all air cooled 911s would eventually settle at equal valuations. Now, I don't know if he was including 964s and 993s, but I would tend to agree when it comes to the g body cars. A number of recent BAT auctions seem to be indicating this trend as well.

[jimmyjimmy]

I don't know why either.
Here in Europe there's hardly difference between the middy and the sc...

[touringmandan]

Outrun AND post better 0-60 times? Spoken like a true Minivan enthusiast.
You'll certainly have more fun in your V6 Accord. And enjoy better A/C. And have more $$ in your IRA.

[MrBonus]

Pathetic heating systems? Woah, pal. You've gone too far.

[Macroni]

Nuances and preference make the economic world go round........

I have had 9 Porsches, 5 GBodies; Sc and Carrera, Targa, Cab and coupe, 915, G50, anywhere from bone stock to a 3.6L swap. They all had varying needs of sorting.

Mr Obvious moment..... The condition of the car and its needs is impactful of what you are willing to pay. I am a bit rigid and tend to sort to a silly level thus I am willing to pay for a solid car.

As far as nuances.... again many more flavors than vanilla....

[NYNick]

Baskin Robbins used to have a flavor of the month. Same thing with cars.

[911heaven]

Originally Posted by Macroni

Nuances and preference make the economic world go round........

I have had 9 Porsches, 5 GBodies; Sc and Carrera, Targa, Cab and coupe, 915, G50, anywhere from bone stock to a 3.6L swap. They all had varying needs of sorting.

Mr Obvious moment..... The condition of the car and its needs is impactful of what you are willing to pay. I am a bit rigid and tend to sort to a silly level thus I am willing to pay for a solid car.

As far as nuances.... again many more flavors than vanilla....

I'm with Macroni. Had quite a few over time and only two now. Got a Sportomatic 69E and a Ruf BTR III. Life is like a box of chocolates said Forrest Gump's mother -- you never know what you're going to get! Either you are an air cooled 911 enthusiast or you aren't. If you are, you'll love every one you ever get your hands on IMO.

[nathanbs]

Too many reasons and differences to list in detail. Get to know 74-89 better and the differences will become much clearer

[juanbenae]

Originally Posted by nathanbs

Too many reasons and differences to list in detail. Get to know 74-89 better and the differences will become much clearer

any car model that spanned that many years would have a much greater disparity in price over the 911. it has evolved to be sure, but at a much slower rate than other car model out there in my estimation.

shoot, some car models have been discontinued only to return to production over the span of the 911.

[Matt Monson]

Holy wall of text. Kids today...

[Kansas]

Originally Posted by Matt Monson

Holy wall of text. Kids today...

I’m probably not that much younger than you, Matt. Just flipped a 1/2 century recently.

[brisboats]

Easy answer..

89 G50 coupe anniversary edition with linen, motronic 3.2 , ...=apple
1983 SC last of the SC's coupe guards red, cis 3.0 with 915 = orange
1974 coupe 2.7 , cis 915 more prone to rust non "S" = pear
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[Spine911]

Originally Posted by juanbenae

any car model that spanned that many years would have a much greater disparity in price over the 911.....

shoot, some car models have been discontinued only to return to production over the span of the 911.

This.

Rarity is a huge driver.

[Matt Monson]

Originally Posted by Kansas

I’m probably not that much younger than you, Matt. Just flipped a 1/2 century recently.

Then you have no excuse for writing like you only have two thumbs!

I turned 50 two weeks back.

[1979-930]

When you have a car that looks nearly the same for as long as the 911. I think the newer the car and more advancements the higher the value should be.
If the older model is a limited production or rare color car then it will be more valuable for all the obvious reasons.

BAT is definitely the reason for the price swings. My assumption is the BAT shoppers are not gear heads with a garage full of tools. The newer 911's are more appealing to them.
And the auction platform drives the price up. BATs historical search feature provides the facts the brain needs to make the emotional purchase that, to all of us, is way too high.
But to the bidder; the last one sold for almost $$,$$$ so it makes perfect sense to bid again.

[juanbenae]

Originally Posted by Kansas

They ALL share the same driving experience that make them truly unique and highly sought after.

that's nonsense.

i went and drove a G50 3.2 G bodied car when looking for another air cooled car after selling my 996tt. granted i only owned the 996TT for 10 months and drove a 78 SC prior that became a spec911 racecar. the 3.2 was a PIG even compared to the 996TT. i was wholly unimpressed with the entire experience.

the 75S i ended up with that had a junk motor was more fun to drive the 100 or so miles that i piloted it before putting in a spicy 3.oL that the G50 3.2 could ever be. in my estimation the more civilized they became the less fun per mile was experienced IMO. the 3.2 felt heavy, lethargic, and grossly under powered compared to my SC even in it's original stock form.

the driving experience changed greatly over the run of the G bodied cars.

as much as i hated the 996TT at the time, kinda wish i still had it now where I'm at in life and live.

[Marine Blue]

I’ve been saying this for the four years, eventually all air cooled cars will have similar values in the low to mid six figure range. Yes some models may command 10 - 20% more based upon rarity/demand and of course the better condition cars will always be on the higher end but eventually they will all be fairly close.

[Kansas]

Originally Posted by juanbenae

that's nonsense.

i went and drove a G50 3.2 G bodied car when looking for another air cooled car after selling my 996tt. granted i only owned the 996TT for 10 months and drove a 78 SC prior that became a spec911 racecar. the 3.2 was a PIG even compared to the 996TT. i was wholly unimpressed with the entire experience.

in my estimation the more civilized they became the less fun per mile was experienced IMO. the 3.2 felt heavy, lethargic, and grossly under powered compared to my SC even in it's original stock form.

the driving experience changed greatly over the run of the G bodied cars.

Point well taken. I've never driven a G50 3.2, but I understand exactly what you're saying. My first air cooled 911 was a 964, and I hated it for the same reasons. It felt heavy, oppressive and totally uninspiring. Fast forward past a 997 and 993 to my recently purchased '78 SC. It feels so much lighter and quicker. The steering is so much more connected than the power assist of my 964, and I just feel like I can toss the car around a lot easier. It gets on the revs so much faster and just seems to hit the power band sooner. And I can't believe how straight it tracks. I can literally let go of the steering wheel at 80 mph on an open road, and the car doesn't veer a bit in either direction.

[nathanbs]

Surprised nobody has mentioned 74/75 being smog exempt in states like CA is a huge price booster. Rare colors, rare models, huge disparities in condition and mileage.

[NYNick]

Originally Posted by juanbenae

that's nonsense.

i went and drove a G50 3.2 G bodied car when looking for another air cooled car after selling my 996tt. granted i only owned the 996TT for 10 months and drove a 78 SC prior that became a spec911 racecar. the 3.2 was a PIG even compared to the 996TT. i was wholly unimpressed with the entire experience.

the 75S i ended up with that had a junk motor was more fun to drive the 100 or so miles that i piloted it before putting in a spicy 3.oL that the G50 3.2 could ever be. in my estimation the more civilized they became the less fun per mile was experienced IMO. the 3.2 felt heavy, lethargic, and grossly under powered compared to my SC even in it's original stock form.

the driving experience changed greatly over the run of the G bodied cars.

as much as i hated the 996TT at the time, kinda wish i still had it now where I'm at in life and live.

I've found each one of them to be personal. I owned an 89 Targa that was EXACTLY as you described; a heavy, lumbering pig. Couldn't sell it fast enough. My current SC is wonderful, but doesn't compare to how fast and quick my son's breathed on and lightened 88 Coupe is. I love that 3.2, but it's totally different than my car with it's juiced 3.0

My 09 TT was a different animal. No comparing one to the other in any way, except name.