Price check on '75 Carrera coupe

[techweenie]

Immaculate white coupe with tan interior, Under 80K miles. Rare sunroof delete. Always kept in a temperature-controlled garage.

I don't know where the market is on these now. I've seen people asking $75K for equivalent cars, but I suspect the actual market is rather lower than that.

Opinions?

[914agogo]

sweet combo and 1 of 390 (I think) ....maybe not $75K ...yet .....give it another decade or two
a well documented example in this color oughta be worth at least $35K given that not so long ago this was a $15K car or so with few wanting one in the first place. a somewhat thumbs down chapter in this short hood's history.
I still hear, " but its the same as a 911 normal " well we say that about a 73 T and an RS, same year carcass but big gap in $$$$
this was the ****s in 75' it has earned its place.

[fryardds]

Is this a US or ROW spec. Carrera?

[kilodawg]

To try and associate the '73T to '73RS

with the US spec '75 911 to '75 Carrera is an extremely bad analogy....

[Macroni]

Very nice shape....

[techweenie]

It's a US spec car.

The condition is essentially showroom. The owner bought a ducktail and painted it to match, so the car comes with both that and the original tail. I'll have a chance in the next couple of days to confirm whether the ducktail is a Factory part...

[fryardds]

Originally Posted by techweenie

Immaculate white coupe with tan interior, Under 80K miles. Rare sunroof delete. Always kept in a temperature-controlled garage.

I don't know where the market is on these now. I've seen people asking $75K for equivalent cars, but I suspect the actual market is rather lower than that.

Opinions?

Yeah, I can't imagine this nice US Carrera car would sell for $75K in this market. I'm not really up on the US spec cars so I don't have an alternative # for you but a Factory ducktail would be a big plus even though it would not have originally come on a '75 model.

[kilodawg]

The problem I have always had with these cars is that IMHO their allure is the mistaken relationship they have to the '73 Carrera RS. These cars just don't have the pedigree to warrant the premium people want to apply to them.

From a performance perspective these are basically a '75 911S which in my mind means a '72 or '73 S is still the more desirable car in terms of performance and ownership. Now the Euro-spec Carrera with the MFI motor is a totally different story.

Additionally, when you contemplate what $40K plus dollars will buy you in a Porsche these days I don't see them as any kind of bargain.....

[techweenie]

Collectable cars are rarely bargains. I'm thinking $36-38 for this car.

I agree the '73 RS comparison is a reach, but we're talking a price that's less than 15% of what an equivalent Carrera RS would bring.

[914agogo]

Originally Posted by kilodawg

To try and associate the '73T to '73RS

with the US spec '75 911 to '75 Carrera is an extremely bad analogy....

you missed the point!

I was referring to the gap in price for 2 identical year carcasses bearing different ID's and equipment not the SIZE of the gap.
I have seen at every turn you putting down the 74-75 Carrera's as no more than another plain 911, and thats fine, its your opinion, very well stated.
However the markets opinion rules. I remember not long ago you thought no one would pay that kind of money($25K) for these cars (maybe 2-3years ago?)

So how did these cars do since??

well plain 74-75 911's barely get above $10K with some exceptions to this day, while the Carrera has made leaps and bounds, at the Ventura show there was one for $55K I heard it sold.
there was a nicer one inside, anyone remember the awesome orange Targa with original factory RS flares? AND that was a new one on me (apparently some got the RS flares) I doubt very much that car would be less than $75K( an exception of course because it was show condition)
I brokered one and it got bid up to $39K(reserve wasnt met) 2 owner orig paint customer wanted $45K for.
I have seen them between $25K to 35K on average with some asking as high as $57K (that 75 in the OC)

here's recent data(today) this is a nice 75 here:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Porsche-911_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQ_trkparmsZ65Q3a13Q7c39Q3a1Q7 c240Q3a1318QQ_trksidZp4506Q2ec0Q2em245QQhashZitem3 ef586eb41QQitemZ270407232321QQptZUSQ5fCarsQ5fTruck sQQsalenotsupported


what strikes me is that by now 35 year old 911's most have all been worked on and have had performance upgrades. one 75 Carrera I saw, the 2.7 was reworked to the tune of $20K with MFI and all, asking price $45K a bargain if you ask me, the car is perfect and has major upgrades without taking any originality away.
they were produced in small numbers and it was a matter of time....

[grudk]

Techweenie, I think your 36-38K number for the car is about right, if it is in very good condition. A factory duck would be worth a couple grand more, if original whale is included.

Euro would be closer to 75K...

PM me if you are looking for a US Carrera... I know of one going up for sale soon

[techweenie]

Looks like I will be brokering this car. I'll go get all the details and decent photos. Price will be $35,000.

Thank you all, sincerely, for your input. It was all valuable.

The market is not rational, and I sympathize with those who are motivated to try and make it so.

[johndglynn]

Originally Posted by techweenie

Looks like I will be brokering this car. I'll go get all the details and decent photos. Price will be $35,000.

The market is not rational, and I sympathize with those who are motivated to try and make it so.

However you look at the US Carreras, that is a lot of car for the money. Good photos should sell that car pretty quickly.

I think early bumper cars have plenty of headroom - good condition examples are getting difficult to find and should hold up pretty well.

[kilodawg]

914agogo,

You are correct every time these come up in discussion I get lured in. I agree that market drives value.

I also know that if you look at these cars two things drive their value. Limited production and the tenuous relationship to the '73 Carrera. That's fine. Having been a long time owner of two '74 911's I know the good and the bad. My point stems from the fact that when it comes to Porsche performance there are better places to invest your $40K plus dollars and still have limited production numbers on your side. This is just my opinion and if you take this as putting down the car so be it. I think if you read all of my prior posts I love all Porsches and certainly aren't "putting them down". When I originally started responding to these type threads it was because there were people new to Porsches posting who did not understand that the '74 and '75 US Carreras were NOT the same as either the euro version or the preceeding '73 Carrera. As long as people know what they are looking at that's fine with me.

You do have me a little confused though. I would assume that the only way to determine the true values these cars are asking would be to base those values on original examples. When performance ugrades as significant as converting to MFI are part of the equation are you really paying for a '74 -'75 Carrera? Or for the car plus the mods........Seems to confuse the issue....

On a final note, I have purchased a car from Tech' before and if he is brokering the car it is everything he says it is and probably more....Good luck!!