'72 911 T 4spd ,value hurt?

[finally hv 1]

I'm looking at a 72 911 T targa that has a 4spd transmission. Does this transmission hurt the value? Also are the 72's more valuable in longnoses?

[racer]

Stock trans was a 4spd. Most prefer a 5spd (it was an option on the T), but imho, the T motor and the 4spd work well together. Perhaps not an ideal "track" set up, but fine for street use.

72s were only built as longhoods, so if its not, then its been modded and yes, nowadays, it would be worth less.

[Christien]

I have a 72 4-speed and would actually say the opposite - I find it's fine for the track, but wish it had a 5th gear for the street. Well, for the highway, actually. Cruising rpm on the highway is 4200 rpm at 120 km/h (75 mph). That's murder on fuel mileage, especially with premium at $1.42/L (about $5.40/gallon), plus it's really noisy - hard to have a civil conversation.

That said, good longhoods are hard to come by, so I wouldn't pass up a good deal just because it's a 4-speed. I certainly didn't

[Matt Monson]

Is a '72 T with original 5spd gearbox worth more than a '72 T with original 4spd gearbox? If it is, not by much.

Is a '72 T that was originally a 4spd that's had's the gearbox replaced with a 5spd worth more than a '72 T with it's orginal 4spd? Absolutely not. Numbers matching trumps modifying the spec to make it something "more desirable".

[finally hv 1]

thanks guys,you have been a big help.

[french911]

Hi

The final ratios on the standard 4 and 5 speed are the same 7:31 as are the 4th and 5th gears respectively 28:24 X so the final drive in 4th or 5th gear will give the same MPH/1000revs. The reason for a 5 speed box is the closer ratios thus being able to run E and S models in the cam operating range through the gears. It has littlle effect on T models giving only marginal performance enhancement.

regards

Barry

[Christien]

I've heard that before, but I've driven early 5-speed 915s, and they seem to cruise around 3500 rpm on the highway - are you sure it's the same?

[KlaasyT]

Christien, I agree, my 72 t has a 5-spd and runs approx 3200rpm at 70 mph. Perhaps your 4spd has a modified ratio for a specific purpose.

Clarence

[coldstart]

My 1972 4-speed is similar to Chris' and cruises at 4K+ RPM at highway speed.

[coldstart]

Chris, we were late on Sunday and missed you guys by about 20 minutes. We ended up going for our own little cruise which was great-- Steve had his 944T and my buddy Phil brought his 1970 240z along.

Great day for a cruise in Niagara!

Oops! Posted in the wrong thread.....

[Christien]

You didn't miss much - badly organized and lots of problems...