valuation on 930s

[rpsurfr]

I am looking at a 930 Turbo- I have two in mind. One bone stock gray w red 45K miles great shape 4 speed and stock HP 1979 year
the other
1983 Ruf car all the paper work is there it was sent to Ruf for 5 speed and close to 200 more HP. Ruf is gone, sold over the last few days- These two cars are with in 200 grand of each other
I am at a loss- should I go with the purest car or the hot rod- my issue is where are the cars going price wise? Will the Ruf do better over time? I know where 930s are trading and likely to move up, but what is value of Ruf name and power?
What are your thoughts.

[76_rookie]

My vote is for the stock. Mod even Ruf is only desired by very few but original is what everyone is after....200 gran is a big difference!!! What price range is the seller looking for? Sounds crazy..

[Six Gun]

+ 1 for stock, If history has taught us nothing else, stock has always trumped modified for retained value. That is quite a price difference! Not knowing the individual prices, you could buy two cars (930'S) and put money back in the bank for $200K

[dantm]

I think the OP meant that the cars are within $200 - 1 grand of each other?

[spuggy]

You don't mention driving the cars, so I'll advise accordingly. IMHO, a Ruf-modified car with Ruf paperwork to back it up, should be worth more than any stock 930 - only thing that would be worth more would be a car with a Ruf-issued VIN. Market may be smaller - but the market knows how limited he selection is... Some Ruf items/options are very rare. Like the Ruf 5-speed box, for example.

On the other hand, a 930 well-modified in (say) the last 10 years could easily be a better car; cheaper and make as much, (if not more) power than the Ruf, depending on how much was spent/done. Technology marches on...

[rpsurfr]

Thanks all- they are with in 2000 of each other. The RUF is real deal done at RUF-paper work in tact. I am told the tuner in Germany are held to high standards so it is not US update- motor plus 5 speed. I understand too the tech advances- I am a traditionalist If I got the stock car it would stay stock if I got the RUF it stays as well. I do intend to drive them. I feel having a great car and not driving it is like having a rock star wife or girlfriend and well.... you know what I mean
Looks so far as if the group is split Thanks to all

[76_rookie]

PM me the one you don't buy so I can give the owner a ring.
alway want a 930.
Thx.

[Tremelune]

If you're looking for an investment, buy something that isn't a machine. If you're looking for a car to enjoy driving, buy the one you like most. Don't be a slave to resale. It's not worth it in the scheme of life.

[Six Gun]

Originally Posted by Tremelune

If you're looking for an investment, buy something that isn't a machine. If you're looking for a car to enjoy driving, buy the one you like most. Don't be a slave to resale. It's not worth it in the scheme of life.

well said +1

[Matt Monson]

I would buy the Ruf. I'm a hot rodder and the Ruf basically is about as modified as I would want to go with a 930. But because it is a Ruf the mods won't hurt the value. The provenance of the car means it will be equal to if not more valuable than the stock car in the long haul.

Best of both worlds really. You get the performance without any downside to the worth of the car. And thank you for not intending to tuck it away. They are meant to be driven.

[porche]

I'm partial to the stock '79, but if they're both comparable and the RUF's the real deal, I wouldn't think twice.

[techweenie]

If i understand correctly, the Ruf modifications are to the original engine and include the addition of a 5-speed transmission (or is that a 5-speed conversion on the original transmission?)

In any case, the above Ruf modifications would not be detectable visually.

$2K must be a small fraction of the asking price.

So the best advice I can give is to observe these issues 1. you mention the color combo of the '79, but not the '83. The colors of the 79 are very very rare and unique. 2. '79 was the last US imported 930 for several years. The '83 would have been a gray market import. After 30 years, that shouldn't make a difference, but there are a few nervous nellie Porsche types who would knock the car for that reason. It could impact your ability to sell when/if that day comes. 3. Porsches are not Chevys. You need to use the "butt gauge" when buying one. The one that feels tightest would get my vote. It's unlikely the two cars will feel the same.