M491 Confirmed Sales Prices?

[Helios59]

Originally Posted by xbrumossalesman

Had lunch with him yesterday- warming up to the idea- what do you guys think ?

One owner w/ 28 K miles...usually those are worth a few extra bucks. Is the car in good shape?

[xbrumossalesman]

Car is nice- just needs a clean up- he spends 6 months in Atlanta & 6 in Colorado so I would like to see it detailed. All original- no mods- no paintwork- it's a time capsule back to the excess of the 80's

[speeder]

Originally Posted by xbrumossalesman

Had lunch with him yesterday- warming up to the idea- what do you guys think ?

I think I could buy 5 of them tomorrow for that price.

[christiandk]

Originally Posted by Ronnie's.930

Oh, and Eric, all joking aside, you are right about "it can kill you". I've had a couple of "scares", usually to the non-amusement of passengers! I punched it with my 70 years old Dad in the car - in 1st gear after just making a turn at a stop light, and almost lost control, and recently had a friend along when I decided to floor it, in 2nd gear, on a highway on-ramp that was too sandy for such shenanigans! You definitely have to keep a smart head at all times in one of these things! Tread jack complete!

Your dad got scared, Ronnie.....ha ha ha...my 61 year old mom doesn't even blink when I floor the 912E!

[Ronnie's.930]

Originally Posted by christiandk

Your dad got scared, Ronnie.....ha ha ha...my 61 year old mom doesn't even blink when I floor the 912E!

Well now, you're talking about a car (yours) that MIGHT scare a newly born, baby rabbit with its ferocious mannerisms, but regardless, good for your mom!

[whiterabbit]

Originally Posted by speeder

I think I could buy 5 of them tomorrow for that price.

Really with 28k miles and one owner? Where?

[SilberUrS6]

Originally Posted by xbrumossalesman

Had lunch with him yesterday- warming up to the idea- what do you guys think ?

One-owner and 28k on the clock - if it's for real, then that's about right.

[speeder]

Originally Posted by whiterabbit

Really with 28k miles and one owner? Where?

I have not shopped for low-mileage 3.2 Carreras anytime recently but they were sold in high numbers, they are not terribly old and $50k should buy one with 28k miles all day long.

Before the most recent run-up in prices, $30k would have bought the same. Many of these cars are/were garage queens with fanatical owners. What I did not get from his post is whether his co-worker's car is a M491 car, he just said, "1985 Carrera". Obviously, that would add value and increase price.

I'm not going to shop for you but try Hemmings, Panorama and eBay for low-mileage Carreras.

[whiterabbit]

Originally Posted by speeder

I have not shopped for low-mileage 3.2 Carreras anytime recently but they were sold in high numbers, they are not terribly old and $50k should buy one with 28k miles all day long.

Before the most recent run-up in prices, $30k would have bought the same. Many of these cars are/were garage queens with fanatical owners. What I did not get from his post is whether his co-worker's car is a M491 car, he just said, "1985 Carrera". Obviously, that would add value and increase price.

I'm not going to shop for you but try Hemmings, Panorama and eBay for low-mileage Carreras.

I was speaking about M491's as the very low mile ones seem to be in the 60's now at least. Basically very close to Turbos.

I have a couple of 3.2's already and would like a low mile M491 but its not worth a 25k premium to me on a basic 3.2. More like 10k I think.

From what I have read there are not many M491's out there. Maybe 1000 or so left worldwide. I am sure someone knows the numbers.

[tdw28210]

THe closest thing to a definitive source for all M491 3.2 Carrera production numbers found here.

Turbolook-Register - Facts - Carrera 3,2

Interesting that the Targa is by far the rarest of the three body styles. Works for me though!

[tdw28210]

Originally Posted by xbrumossalesman

Had lunch with him yesterday- warming up to the idea- what do you guys think ?

Based on the numbers in this Flea Bay posting...BUY IT!

http://www.ebay.com/itm/221376263040

[metzger]

Originally Posted by tdw28210

Based on the numbers in this Flea Bay posting...BUY IT!

Porsche 911 M491 | eBay

This is getting out of control.

[xbrumossalesman]

Originally Posted by SilberUrS6

One-owner and 28k on the clock - if it's for real, then that's about right.

Guys- just to clarify it is a real M491- one owner - 28K miles - sold new at Jim Ellis Porsche right here in Atlanta.

[whiterabbit]

Originally Posted by xbrumossalesman

Guys- just to clarify it is a real M491- one owner - 28K miles - sold new at Jim Ellis Porsche right here in Atlanta.

The car sounds worth serious consideration. I would be interested in looking at it if you decide to pass.

[xbrumossalesman]

Originally Posted by whiterabbit

The car sounds worth serious consideration. I would be interested in looking at it if you decide to pass.

I'll keep you in the loop

[speeder]

It's sounding more and more like that would be a smart buy on your part. Another thing to consider is that if you are buying a mint example of a special car to keep, (as opposed to flip), paying a couple bucks extra means nothing.

[christiandk]

Originally Posted by metzger

This is getting out of control.

Funny....looked at the picture and thought, that is the way Philip Haupt used to take photos of "his" cars.

And cha ching........Fort Myers, Florida!

Apart from being a very weird guy the Carrera I bought from him was excellent. Never should have sold it.

[whiterabbit]

Originally Posted by speeder

It's sounding more and more like that would be a smart buy on your part. Another thing to consider is that if you are buying a mint example of a special car to keep, (as opposed to flip), paying a couple bucks extra means nothing.

I totally agree with you on this. I am so glad I spent what was "over" market to some on my last 3.2 as I don't ever intend to sell.

[metzger]

Originally Posted by whiterabbit

I totally agree with you on this. I am so glad I spent what was "over" market to some on my last 3.2 as I don't ever intend to sell.

I typically spend more than I'm told I should on cars and couldn't be happier with what I end up with.

[Helios59]

I don't think I'll get the answers I want as to real-world TL selling prices.

The representative sample seems too small to establish any kind of reliable base line.

Hagerty says to add 10 % to regular Carrera values...guess that's as good as anything.