Hmmm, this looks pretty good these days...

[SilberUrS6]

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/porsche-cars-sale/806064-86-911-coupe-f-s.html

Sport seats, still has the Fuchs, interesting color, reasonable miles.

With the way the market is trending, if there's nothing hiding that that the ad leaves out, I'm thinking this is not a bad asking price.

[MrBonus]

He should put the OEM Fuchs back on there. Functioning A/C is a huge plus.

[PushingMyLuck]

Aggressive price for over 100k and tail and no G50.

[SilberUrS6]

Originally Posted by MrBonus

He should put the OEM Fuchs back on there. Functioning A/C is a huge plus.

The functional AC is a pretty good bonus. Which is one of the reasons I like the ask as a starting point.

[Matt Monson]

Aggressive price for over 100k and tail and no G50.

Rare color, sport seats, and you still don't understand that an '86 is worth more than '84&'85s.
Car will sell quickly.

[MrBonus]

Plus, it's a Las Vegas car so very slim chance of any significant corrosion.

[SilberUrS6]

Originally Posted by MrBonus

Plus, it's a Las Vegas car so very slim chance of any significant corrosion.

I missed that part.

I'm liking this car more and more.

[christiandk]

Originally Posted by SilberUrS6

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/porsche-cars-sale/806064-86-911-coupe-f-s.html

Sport seats, still has the Fuchs, interesting color, reasonable miles.

With the way the market is trending, if there's nothing hiding that that the ad leaves out, I'm thinking this is not a bad asking price.

Are you joking, Eric? All the red lamps are blinking here.......but like Matt said I am an originality freak.

[93nav]

Says car is out to Colorado.

Originally Posted by MrBonus

Plus, it's a Las Vegas car so very slim chance of any significant corrosion.

[SilberUrS6]

Originally Posted by christiandk

Are you joking, Eric? All the red lamps are blinking here.......but like Matt said I am an originality freak.

What red lamps? What about this car do you find objectionable?

[maninblack]

He's been trying to sell this car for, literally, years. Just do a search for his previous posts.

He lists the car, it doesn't sell, and he takes it down. He then waits maybe a month and re-lists it. But here's the kicker. He's gradually raising his price along the way. I know he was asking $24k a few months ago and less before that. Another example of a seller trying to wring every last dollar out of a car that he will never sell if he doesn't accept a reasonable offer.

[COLB]

Originally Posted by 93nav

Says car is out to Colorado.

Colorado is not necessarily an issue. People think snow & salt, but in reality it is a VERY dry climate. Stuff doesn't rust there much because the humidity is so low, moisture doesn't collect and corrode.

This car has been for sale off & on for over 18 months.

Started Jan 2012 for $23k.
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/porsche-cars-sale/633114-86-911-f-s.html

Then $20k in Aug 2012
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/porsche-cars-sale/699133-86-carrera-f-s.html

$20k obo in April 2013
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/porsche-cars-sale/738971-1986-911-sale.html

$24k from Oct - Dec 2013
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/porsche-cars-sale/779268-86-911-coupe-f-s.html

And $27k since March 2014.
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/porsche-cars-sale/802572-86-coupe-sale.html

In one ad he mentions the car had a top end at 100k.

The whole thing is interesting. You rarely see a guy bumping the price after trying unsuccessfully to sell a car. Perhaps he is trying to keep ahead of the market.

I have no facts (but that has never stopped me from speculating.) Here are a few possibilities:

1) The old Wife Gambit. Wife wants him to sell, he wants to keep. So the car has been "for sale" for over 2 years. This would explain the price increases -- he has to keep ahead of the curve.

2) Seller is a hardcase. This doesn't seem likely -- if you search the user name, phil marsh has sold a number of cars here since 2008. None seem excessively priced, and he probably still smarting from his roller 66 912 for $2k so the wife could get her car into the garage.

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/porsche-cars-sale/511622-66-912-fs.html

3) The mods are visually off-putting. This is true, but not so much that it warrants a total non-sell, especially since the original parts are included.

4) There is something the seller is not disclosing. (he says the paint is a 7.5 of 10; car has had a bra)

It seems like a pretty nice car to me, that could be sorted out without a lot of expense.

[COLB]

In most cases, I would look to blame it on the old battle-ax, but the frau in question seems to like Porsches. Seller has plenty of pics posted with her & his previously sold cars:

This nice looking 82 Sc; great color. Went to Australia for $12.5 in 2010:



http://forums.pelicanparts.com/porsche-cars-sale/506506-82-sc-porsche.html

A 69E with a 2.7 CIS motor, sold for $20k in 2008; I bet he wishes he had it back….



http://forums.pelicanparts.com/porsche-cars-sale/428854-69e-sale.html

He also sold a 75S, and a 68 912 for parts.

Perhaps it is the last of the fleet, and he has lots of previous sellers remorse?

[SilberUrS6]

That is interesting.

I don't mind the wheels if Fuchs come along. I wonder what the paint issue is - it looks good in the photos.

[Matt Monson]

Stuff doesn't rust here because we don't salt our roads. Only in the last few years has I-25 through downtown Denver started getting mag chloride.

And we get 300 days of sun a year. 76 yesterday. Snowing a couple inches today at 28 degrees. Will melt by lunch tomorrow. Snow isn't even sticking to my '67 parked in the driveway.

[PushingMyLuck]

Originally Posted by COLB

The whole thing is interesting. You rarely see a guy bumping the price after trying unsuccessfully to sell a car. Perhaps he is trying to keep ahead of the market.

Not that interesting if you have studying behavioral economics.
When things have higher prices, certain goods are looked at more favorably.

If I tried to sell a mint 3.2 G50 911 for $6k,
not one person here would come look at it.

Price the same car at $22k and I'll get 500 calls in a day.

By bumping the price, he is increasing perceived quality.
Same reason why everyone here assumed a $20k car priced by an out of touch seller has to be total junk.

[COLB]

Originally Posted by PushingMyLuck

Not that interesting if you have studying behavioral economics.
When things have higher prices, certain goods are looked at more favorably.

If I tried to sell a mint 3.2 G50 911 for $6k,
not one person here would come look at it.

Price the same car at $22k and I'll get 500 calls in a day.

By bumping the price, he is increasing perceived quality.
Same reason why everyone here assumed a $20k car priced by an out of touch seller has to be total junk.

I understand the concept, but disagree that is what is at work here.

First, if no one calls about a $6k G50 911 it is because they think it is an obvious scam, not because the price being charged affects their perceived value of the product -- which is what you are getting at. And I guarantee you if someone posted a running G50 for $6k, he will get a hundred calls, even if his phone was registered in Lagos, Nigeria.

Last week some guy posted a 70 911E on craigslist here in Springfield for $20k -- in good condition, no rust, etc -- no pics, bad grammar. I reported it as the scam it was, and still almost called just to hear the pitch. Had I actually been looking to buy, I would have definitely called.

If the seller had some magic formula for making his car appear to be more valuable based on pricing, he would have sold it some time in the past two years.

If he is trying to employ behavioral economics to sell his car, well…its not working, is it?

[maninblack]

Originally Posted by PushingMyLuck

Not that interesting if you have studying behavioral economics.
When things have higher prices, certain goods are looked at more favorably.

If I tried to sell a mint 3.2 G50 911 for $6k,
not one person here would come look at it.

Price the same car at $22k and I'll get 500 calls in a day.

By bumping the price, he is increasing perceived quality.
Same reason why everyone here assumed a $20k car priced by an out of touch seller has to be total junk.

That may be the silliest thing I've ever heard. And I spend almost every day working in behavioral economics. No offense.

[SilberUrS6]

Originally Posted by maninblack

That may be the silliest thing I've ever heard. And I spend almost every day working in behavioral economics. No offense.

He read it on the internet somewhere. And it might apply to wine and beer (and even then, only within limits), but hardly to a collectible.

LOL, just LOL.

[PushingMyLuck]

Originally Posted by maninblack

That may be the silliest thing I've ever heard. And I spend almost every day working in behavioral economics. No offense.

Do you know what a Veblen good is?
You do now...