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996AE 06-22-2014 01:45 PM

SC color change
 
How much does paint color change effect SC value?

KNS 06-22-2014 03:58 PM

Generally it's never a great idea. If you're looking for percentages that's going to be difficult. If the car started life an unattractive piss-colored gold and is now a correct for the year, attractive color, it might be very little, if at all. Might be a slight improvement in that sort of situation.

But if taken from a more popular color to something else, that's going to almost always be a ding against it.

KNS 06-22-2014 04:03 PM

I should add... there are situations where it just doesn't matter anymore. I've seen cases where a Ferrari Dino or 330 GTC, etc., has been painted three different colors in its life but the cars are so out of sight it now buyers don't care (if done to high standard). But an original, correct color will still be worth more.

Leo 06-23-2014 08:00 AM

The job has to be well done. A rotisserie restoration is the way to go, but most people won't do that to a $20k car. On an 911sc you should keep the original color. There is always somebody who likes your car color besides yourself. There was a yellow 911sc here in Miami selling for 26k. I've seen other yellow 911sc's and the look quite nice. This one in particular looked good, but it was a color change. It will directly affect the price of your car knowing that most people who buys these cars today really want originality or a good base for a hot rod 911. The original paint is always good for both situations, but if you don't really like to color of your car, just sell it.

josborn10 06-23-2014 01:41 PM

Color change
 
Along those some lines, what if the car in question is one of the umpteenth 'Guard's Red' 911s, of which there is no shortage?

oh snap 06-25-2014 02:10 AM

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Originally Posted by josborn10 (Post 8131001)
Along those some lines, what if the car in question is one of the umpteenth 'Guard's Red' 911s, of which there is no shortage?

agreed. yes in general it hurts value but if its not already a low mile original car and especially if its original colour is common or "undesireable" (subject to opinion and current trends of course) it wont hurt value much if you do a good job.


a gulf blue sc going to red will be hurt. a red sc going to white might be hurt a little. a white sc going to gulf blue or signal orange would probably increase in value or have no effect

techweenie 06-25-2014 09:59 AM

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Originally Posted by oh snap (Post 8133450)
agreed. yes in general it hurts value but if its not already a low mile original car and especially if its original colour is common or "undesireable" (subject to opinion and current trends of course) it wont hurt value much if you do a good job.


a gulf blue sc going to red will be hurt. a red sc going to white might be hurt a little. a white sc going to gulf blue or signal orange would probably increase in value or have no effect

^^^ this

911SauCy 06-25-2014 10:38 AM

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Originally Posted by KNS (Post 8129536)
Generally it's never a great idea. If you're looking for percentages that's going to be difficult. If the car started life an unattractive piss-colored gold and is now a correct for the year, attractive color, it might be very little, if at all. Might be a slight improvement in that sort of situation.

But if taken from a more popular color to something else, that's going to almost always be a ding against it.

This made me laugh.

My '78 SC Targa was affectionately referred to as "baby schiut brown" by the PO.

He had a 6/10 respray done in Guards...:rolleyes:

Car is way cooler in BSB, in my opinion

KNS 06-25-2014 11:51 AM

Guards Red wouldn't be my first choice, neither would brown. But I would take an attractive brown color (there are some that look good) over GR any day.

There are some truly nasty gold shades out there, I would not buy in the first place or repaint to a nicer color.

kalawao 07-01-2014 08:23 PM

hey there, just got this one in a bad repaint (dont know how to call it - redwine-red maybe?) it has a sunburn and i want to paint it .. original color was rauchquartz (the other picture, thanks to adoni510 on pelican)

what you guys think? repaint in original color or some other weird color? let me know...

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1404274962.jpg
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1404274973.jpg

SilberUrS6 07-01-2014 08:29 PM

The original color isn't bad at all. With all-silver Fuchs, that car would look great.

Milesaway 07-01-2014 10:35 PM

Major downturn in value to any car if its a colour change over the original colour. Only a downturn in value to serious collectors if car is bare shelled first but that's very rare. Nothing worse than seeing a different colour under all the chips and scratches. :mad:

Macroni 07-02-2014 03:59 AM

Kalawoa; Great color.... Re-paint original!

If the car is a keeper for you repaint to hearts content.

If it is for re-sale; originality is a safe bet..... even Guards Red.....

No matter what quality of paint job is the true critical element.

Canine64 07-02-2014 09:29 AM

On a similar note, what does a very high quality repaint in the SAME color do to value of the car? Example: 80,000 mile, mechanically strong/sound, all updates, no accidents. Car is stunning in person, very unique color combo: Grand Prix White over Can Can Red leather.

Thanks,

Mike

Macroni 07-02-2014 09:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Canine64 (Post 8145254)
On a similar note, what does a very high quality repaint in the SAME color do to value of the car? Example: 80,000 mile, mechanically strong/sound, all updates, no accidents. Car is stunning in person, very unique color combo: Grand Prix White over Can Can Red leather.

Thanks,

Mike

Friend recently had a top paint job on his SC cost was $10,000.

Canine64 07-02-2014 12:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Macroni (Post 8145288)
Friend recently had a top paint job on his SC cost was $10,000.

Understand the cost. What does a repaint in the same color do to value?

Bob Kontak 07-02-2014 02:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Canine64 (Post 8145576)
Understand the cost. What does a repaint in the same color do to value?

Assuming it's shiny but tired. If it's decent and original, let it be.

If it's tired, spend the extra $500-700 on Glasurit 22 Line single stage urethane with hardener. I gotta think that will net you an extra $2k if you need/want to sell.

I am new to this forum. Know that I am just talking out my you-know-what. Numbers I am throwing out are for discussion purposes. If some of these $50k numbers are real for SC's then I guess I need to sell mine and go on a coke binge. Well, maybe pay the rent for a coupla years.

If your 83SC, a much better than driver car, was worth $23k with tired paint, then I think you will recover half of the $10,000 paint job mentioned. Providing it's smokin' hot. A little extra with the original - or closest to original - Glasurit paint.

I can't see $10k turning into $15k.

Macroni 07-02-2014 03:06 PM

I would only paint the bare minimum unless it was toast....

Canine64 07-02-2014 06:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Macroni (Post 8145880)
I would only paint the bare minimum unless it was toast....

Thanks for the input. Let me reset the scenario. I just purchased a stunning 83 SC coupe in Grand Prix white with Can Can red leather. It has 80,000 original miles, has had Carrera chain tensioners, updated head studs, pop off box, and other necessary updates. Passed a PPI with great results. The only "issue" for me was the fact that the car was repainted several years ago in the same original color. It was done to a very high standard.

So my question is this: knowing that the car was repainted, what does this do to current value? How will this be perceived down the road by potential future buyers?

Thanks,

Mike

willcall 07-02-2014 06:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Canine64 (Post 8146187)
Thanks for the input. Let me reset the scenario. I just purchased a stunning 83 SC coupe in Grand Prix white with Can Can red leather. It has 80,000 original miles, has had Carrera chain tensioners, updated head studs, pop off box, and other necessary updates. Passed a PPI with great results. The only "issue" for me was the fact that the car was repainted several years ago in the same original color. It was done to a very high standard.

So my question is this: knowing that the car was repainted, what does this do to current value? How will this be perceived down the road by potential future buyers?

Thanks,

Mike

So it was resprayed in the original Colour, yes?
In that case it won't effect re-sale one bit. In fact it could increase it's value as if it was a bare metal respray any rust issues would have been dealt with giving the next buyer more security/reassurance that there is nothing lurking under the paint.

Just look at 99% of the fully restored longhoods selling for massive amounts. They have all been resprayed. They are basically new cars built around an old shell & engine.


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