Value of 1985 3.2 Carrera?

[jgill46]

Fellow PP posters - Looking for a range of value for a 1985 Carrera sunroof coupe. Particulars are 100K miles, Iris Blue metallic with tan leather interior, no accidents or dents or rust, gearbox balky on first and second gear shifts, dry motor with good compression and minimal leakdown, overall a nice 8 of 10 driver. TIA for any estimates from the membership!

John

[SilberUrS6]

$35-$45k.

[christiandk]

What Eric said but maybe 40 tops because of the gearbox issue. Will cost at least a grand to fix if a fluid change doesnt do it - Books and all accessories included?

Irisblau is pretty and very rare!

[BSNMOE]

I overpaid a few thousand more for my 85 Carrera because it was Iris Blue.

[christiandk]

Originally Posted by BSNMOE

I overpaid a few thousand more for my 85 Carrera because it was Iris Blue.

Overpaid......relative to what?

[COLB]

Originally Posted by christiandk

Overpaid......relative to what?

Probably a Guards Red one.

[johnsjmc]

Originally Posted by christiandk

What Eric said but maybe 40 tops because of the gearbox issue. Will cost at least a grand to fix if a fluid change doesnt do it - Books and all accessories included?

Irisblau is pretty and very rare!

Last 915 I overhauled was in about 2004 and a thousand dollars worth of parts fit in a zip lock lunch bag.
That said you can still drive them a very long time with a worn 1/2 shift issue.

[Nick Triesch]

Where do you guys get these numbers? 8 or 10 driver?? Nada and Hagerity have only perfect cars that look like 2015 cars for that kind of money. I would think a nice 85 two or three level would be about $30,000 tops.

[Nick Triesch]

On Hagerty, A number 3 condition car is listed still at under $28,000. And I don't think a number 3 car would have a balky 915.

[COLB]

Originally Posted by Nick Triesch

On Hagerty, A number 3 condition car is listed still at under $28,000. And I don't think a number 3 car would have a balky 915.

If it is otherwise excellent cosmetically, I don't think a worn 915 with your usual amount of 1-2 balkiness justifies an automatic downgrade to a number 4.

If anything, ratings tend to bias toward visible cosmetics over mechanical condition.

If it starts easily, runs and idles well, shifts, stops, and doesn't leak (much) -- it probably passes.

[War584]

We'll find out soon enough. Listed out of the gate strong at $45k asking. Looks like a 3 to me.

[Matt Monson]

Originally Posted by pmax

How much is a 915 1st/2nd gear rebuild these days ?

Add that to your price for the true cost of the car.

PML, you are tipping your hand at your true identity with that gearbox cost remark...

[Matt Monson]

Originally Posted by COLB

If it is otherwise excellent cosmetically, I don't think a worn 915 with your usual amount of 1-2 balkiness justifies an automatic downgrade to a number 4.

A lot of 1-2 shift balkiness comes from idiots who don't know how to drive a sports car. They think "warming it up" requires that they short shift at 3000rpms. A 911 engine is warm enough to shift at 5000rpm 3 minutes after starting it (less than the idle time of most idiots who think they can warm it up by idling it in the garage).

Rev your engine to 4500rpm. Do the 2 stage shift (easily found on a search in the 911 tech forum and using Pete Zimmermann's name). No 1-2 shifting issue exists on most of these cars.

[Matt Monson]

Originally Posted by pmax

Lordy lordy, true question, one that you might be able to enlighten us commonfolk with.

Have you increased your prices in the past year ?

What would my prices have to do with it? Your average 911 owner doesn't replace a complete gearset ($850) or install an LSD ($2500) as part of a rebuild. I manufacture parts for racecars.

My breakdown of the cost to rebuild a 915, which I previously provided to PML, was based on Pelican's parts. Things like synchros, sliders, bearings and replacement teeth are not what I do for a living.

But keep trying. You've shown time and time again that reading comprehension isn't your strong suit. How does that ring with your opinion?

[Nick Triesch]

I don't think I'm reading the Hagerty site wrong. A number 3 car should be in the $28,000 range. A number 1 85 3.2 should be a $45,000 car. It should be perfect show quality. Same with NADA.

[pnut_lee]

$45k is a stretch for this car, but the market these days surely holds a prospective buyer dying to add an Iris Blue car to his stable and is willing to pay. Might take a while, but OP may get close.

If car needs to sell soon, $35k would probably get it done quickly.

[Matt Monson]

Originally Posted by pmax

However, the cost to rebuild John's 915 is highly relevant.

How much is that now ? 500 ? 5K ? Give a range if you can't be specific.
Being in the transmission business, you are the best person to answer that question in this thread.

To do just 1&2 properly? $800-1000 in parts and most shops will charge about the same in labor. That assumes you do NOTHING else while you are in there.

But once you suck up the labor, makes no sense not to do everything it needs, and that's something you never know until it is apart on the bench. Could be another $500-1000 in parts. Could be $2500-3000 in parts and machine work. Bearings alone are more than a grand these days. And heaven forbid the 5th/R shift sleeve is bad, because that's a $900 part just by itself.

[SilberUrS6]

Originally Posted by pnut_lee

$45k is a stretch for this car, but the market these days surely holds a prospective buyer dying to add an Iris Blue car to his stable and is willing to pay. Might take a while, but OP may get close.

If car needs to sell soon, $35k would probably get it done quickly.

The thing is that Hagerty values lag behind the market, and the market has been changing weekly for a while now.

While I think the insanity has cooled, we're not back to sane levels of appreciation yet. Add to that a rare color, which can be a big bump from the baseline, and that's where the guess comes from.

[Patrick3000]

Originally Posted by SilberUrS6

The thing is that Hagerty values lag behind the market, and the market has been changing weekly for a while now.

While I think the insanity has cooled, we're not back to sane levels of appreciation yet. Add to that a rare color, which can be a big bump from the baseline, and that's where the guess comes from.

X2 Hagerty values lag behind the market because it has been changing rapidly for the last few years.

[Nick Triesch]

I think some of you guys hope that Hagerty values lag behind current sales. But here in San Diego, that is just not the case. I just went to a high end sales shop and only the most perfect cars go for $46,000. But, whatever. I don't want these cars to go through the roof. Brings too much attention to the cars and I think it will drive maintenance up along with it. I think most of us drive our cars and do not want a show piece.