Company review: Luxsport Motor Group

[134593]

So I've never posted on this forum before but I stumbled on this post and figured I would vent a little too. I use to work for Lance and can verify that he is a liar and a sketchy person. All his inventory had issues, he lies to his customers and doesn't pay any of his vendors - or his employees for that matter. The fact that Luxsport hasnt been shut down yet blows my mind. I could go on but i think you get the jist.

[nene]

OOooppsss!

[trader220]

Originally Posted by 134593

So I've never posted on this forum before but I stumbled on this post and figured I would vent a little too. I use to work for Lance and can verify that he is a liar and a sketchy person. All his inventory had issues, he lies to his customers and doesn't pay any of his vendors - or his employees for that matter. The fact that Luxsport hasn't been shut down yet blows my mind. I could go on but i think you get the jist.

Wow.... shut down? Lance was here saying how they sell 300 air cooled 911's a year.... They look to make about $5g on each so that 1.5 million goes a long way toward his overhead.... Unless ....no .... he wouldn't ..... he couldn't... did he tell a lie here?

I was just wondering.... since they dont even have 25 air cooled cars in inventory, and we know that some of the air cooled cars they show in inventory were sold, some 6 to 8 months ago and are still showing ( at higher prices) on his website.... how is it that they sell a claimed 25 air cooleds a month? Oh thats right he he claimed many of the sales are top secret and sold over in Europe.... Don't forget every one of his listings proclaims that the majority of these cars are sold back to Europe.... yea right and he sells 300 a year too.

[florio20]

Here's my take on Lux. dealt with them on a car that i still have NOT receive the stock radio from Lance. it was advertised in the ad but never delivered. i tried to chase it down but always been told he's working on it to get one blah blah. i clearly told him i could get one too so just refund the cost but he refused to do so. up until this day i still haven't received what i was promised on multiple counts not to mention it was a dishonest advertisement to begin with.

i want to address their business practice a little further from i can see after dealing with them. i was able to track down the original owner of the car i purchased because Lux Sport didn't even bother to clean the glovebox that still had the previous owner's info in it. the wife of the previous owner was shocked that the car was being flipped because apparently they were approached by a ''family man'' type who promised to buy the car to keep. of course we discussed how much was sold for. as a buyer i didn't really care much because to Lux's power, they found the car first. but the wife was deeply sicken by the ''purchaser'' because how they were lied to. she did not even want to tell the husband because she knew how upset he'd be. i feel sorry for them but at least the car seemed to be loved. the car was loved (luckily) but the condition isn't as nice as advertised. with that being said, Lux knows how to take pretty pictures for sure.

in conclusion, i have no problem paying a dealer premium if the guy running the place is legit, honest & knowledgeable. i've talked to Lance on the phone multiple times. he clearly has no clue on those cars except knowing he can flip them to make a sizable profit. what's funnier is that the fact i know how much profit he made on me but he refuse to send my money back on a head unit i can buy for $400. he claimed he could buy it for less perhaps it would've saved him maybe $50 ~ $100 bucks? that to me is a bad business practice.

Few facts people should know before dealing with them:

1. they don't really know what they have. if you get lucky you buy a decent car with Lux premium. i was told the car had good service record but up to this date i still haven't received them. so that's a lie. i was told the car has original paint but it's not. some panels are painted (no sign of accident though, luckily!). so that's a lie. i'm still owed what i was promised. that's more lies...

2. they have eyes out there looking for cars every day to buy. they don't do PPI on them, because simply have no time for it. so good luck on that. like others suggested here. if you like what they have, go see it in person. they can not be trusted.

3. their location is in a storage service warehouse that have lots of nice cars in there. that's not their inventory. lots pictures posted on Lux's Instagram are not their cars but privately owned by the storage warehouse's customers. you see their false advertisements on daily basis.

4. do not trust the PPI shop they recommend. place is a crapshoot. so does Lux itself.

it's quite sad that buying an used Porsche has turned sideway like this. again i have no problem paying more for a car that has good history & service record. fact is pretty much all those cars required somewhere between 5k to 10k worth of work to bring it up to date. if there's a record to back up the asking price i have no issue paying the price clearly that's not the case with those guys. buyers be aware.

[florio20]

Originally Posted by trader220

Wow.... shut down? Lance was here saying how they sell 300 air cooled 911's a year.... They look to make about $5g on each so that 1.5 million goes a long way toward his overhead.... Unless ....no .... he wouldn't ..... he couldn't... did he tell a lie here?

not trying to beat a dead horse here nor it's my business to care how much they make on each car. it's a business so it better makes money. honesty is priceless too bad that's what they're lacking. for the record, they made more than $15k on the car i purchased. this info was from the previous owner of the car. there was no work performed in between transaction because there's no record of it. oh well...

[trader220]

Originally Posted by florio20

not trying to beat a dead horse here nor it's my business to care how much they make on each car. it's a business so it better makes money. honesty is priceless too bad that's what they're lacking. for the record, they made more than $15k on the car i purchased. this info was from the previous owner of the car. there was no work performed in between transaction because there's no record of it. oh well...

Sorry you had to deal with all of that BS. It does sound like the car is okay for you despite the radio. Its just ashamed you have to deal with such BS.

In terms of the $5k per car I used.... I just picked a number... There is no chance he sells 300 air cooled 911's a year. It appears as if Lance has no issue with blatant lies. I would bet heavy they don't sell 300 cars, no matter what kind, a year. Same bet that he's not sold 300 air cooled 911's in his life.

I am a strong believer in Karma so I guess he'll get his in the end. In the mean time the internet has a long long memory and when people document the garbage its here for all to read forever. Reputations like Lance's and Lux Sports are earned and once the cat is out of the bag its hard to get him back in.

[florio20]

Originally Posted by trader220

Sorry you had to deal with all of that BS. It does sound like the car is okay for you despite the radio. Its just ashamed you have to deal with such BS.

In terms of the $5k per car I used.... I just picked a number... There is no chance he sells 300 air cooled 911's a year. It appears as if Lance has no issue with blatant lies. I would bet heavy they don't sell 300 cars, no matter what kind, a year. Same bet that he's not sold 300 air cooled 911's in his life.

I am a strong believer in Karma so I guess he'll get his in the end. In the mean time the internet has a long long memory and when people document the garbage its here for all to read forever. Reputations like Lance's and Lux Sports are earned and once the cat is out of the bag its hard to get him back in.

Point i wanted to make is that they may not have idea what they're buying either. there's no time to act for proper transaction these days. that argument is to their benefit though. who knows? they buy low & sell high without bothering to spend dime on the car to make it at least worth the premium. that to me is a bad business practice too.

yes i used the word ''luckily'' because it's really a crapshoot buying a car from them. the car was certainly not ''as described'' and the pictures on their site were just too pretty. when u start asking the right questions they would be like ''i have few offers on the table now u better act quick.'' that's the sad part of the market now.

[trader220]

Agreed... this new market for thees cars has changed the game a great deal. Its no longer a hobby for me when I have to think twice about where I park because my car is no longer a $25k car.

These sorts of zero value added flippers are making their money now and when the market cools off ( read that as prices stabilize, not go down) they'll back off and find the next hot market.

As you and others have pointed out, these guys don't know jack about the cars and add nothing to them. Historically their business model is to take shots in the hot markets. If they can do enough volume at high margin, if they pick up a clunker every once in a while, in their book they just hope they've sold enough winners to suck up a loser every once in a while. That way they don't have to miss a car doing a PPI or put anything into the cars. The way the market is they know someone else will buy it and they probably don't want to deal with the knowledgeable picky buyer.

Its not unlike trading in any market. 20 years on a couple of options trading floors and I would see the same forces at work. Guys would be in one pit for years and then all of a sudden one of the issues in that pit gets hot in a take over battle and all of a sudden there are 20 new market makers in that pit. All of a sudden there are 20 to 30 k options contracts a day trading in that issue. Where were those guys for the last 2 years when that issue was doing 3k contracts a day?

[Winter]

Whatever happened to our good friend, ChuckJ, the guy who started this thread?

[Matt Monson]

Originally Posted by Winter

Whatever happened to our good friend, ChuckJ, the guy who started this thread?

Probably went back to 6speedonline.

[ChuckJ]

No, I'm still here and enjoying the 993, thanks. The car is doing fine also and I just looked at a friend's here in Dallas and mine is much higher quality with a lower purchase price and 40,000 less miles.

Chuck

[Westy]

Wow! What a read. Just yesterday I got a message on my cell from a guy offering to help me sell my car for a 'Small Fee'. He said he was Aaron from Once Driven. This is the only Porsche forum I'm on, my name is not out there, and other than Vash, no one has my cell phone number. Hmmmm, now that I think about it...VASH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I have not advertised my car for sale, although I might pretty soon, but I can only guess he surfs this forum and can get into our CP or something else. Anyone ever heard of this company? Once Driven??

[Westy]

OK, it's a scam. Just did a search. Multiple threads on them. Still like to know how they got my # and how they know I might be selling a car. Watch out for Once Driven!!!

[Rick Brooklyn]

Originally Posted by Westy

other than Vash, no one has my cell phone number. Hmmmm, now that I think about it...VASH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

And who, or what, is "Vash"?

[Westy]

He's one of the OG's on this forum. Member since 2003.

[revkev]

I think from here on out. Every post in this thread should have this on the bottom:

"Luxsport Luxport scam ripoff lies fraud unethical Lance Yudkin." (luxport was added because I assume that is a common misspelling).

This will raise the SEO for these keywords, so anyone not on this forum who might consider buying from them can find this thread if they do a little research.....if someone buys without doing their due diligence first, then they will deserve getting Yudkin'd.

I suggest this because I initially started a thread awhile back re: Luxsport while I was talking to Lance. So many lies, even stupid little white lies. I was interested in a car and he said he was going to get back to me to confirm the paperwork. I never heard from him...thus my post. Then I get this pm from him on Pelican after I post, him not knowing it was me. What a joke.

Hello, I am confused about your posting on Pelican Parts, especially the part where the owner used to be at a different shop and did some unethical tactics? To answer your question, I the owner have never been at "another shop" I have ran and operated LuxSport Motor Group, LLC for ten years, never have I done any unethical practices, never once had a lawsuit, never once been on ripoffreport etc. I sell 300 air-cooled cars a year, once in a while we run into a problem with a car (as any dealer selling in heavy volume with 15-20 year old cars), we ALWAYS stand behind every car, take care of any issue, and always treat our customers with respect and the highest quality of class. We have 100% feedback on eBay, and have a very good reputation in the business. I would appreciate that you remove this post on Pelican Parts, as even though it was an innocent posting, people take what is said seriously on the forums and since we have never done business together there is no evidence of us acting in a negative way, and negative feedback like this posting does affect small businesses like mine. If you would like to discuss our business or vehicles in our inventory currently, feel free to PM me, email me at info@luxsport.com or call me anytime at (516) 921-7800. Thank you

[Matt Monson]

A small business that sells 300 air cooled cars a year? That's like $1.5M profit on just air cooled cars. And then there's the rest of his business. Mmmmm. Small business that an internet forum could bankrupt? If that was true MotorMeister would have gone out of business over a decade ago.

[revkev]

SEO and algorithms were not as advanced as they are today. Plus more people are more tech savvy than the avg. Joe of 2005. Wouldn't hurt.





"Luxsport Luxport scam ripoff lies fraud unethical Lance Yudkin."

[McLovin]

Today the Internet review search and searches are amazing.

I'm sure if someone were to search Google for a review of Luxsport, many reviews of Luxsport would come up.

[pmax]

Speaking of MM, how in the world did they manage to survive for that long ?