911 vs 912 hotrods and tributes..

[mulsanne79]

These modified cars and tributes seem to be gaining in popularity, and I am wondering what difference does the actual chassis makes in price. I have been contacted by a few people that want to build them and join venture with our little dealership.

There is no doubt that the "hot rod" market favors cars that are the original long hood vehicles ('73 and earlier) .. But what about the difference between the 911 chassis vs the 912 chassis? To my best knowledge, they are the same..

So considering that these modified cars usually have a later model engine, it probably should make no difference money wise to the buyer if the chassis is 911 or 912, since the car can't really be completely brought back to its original.

[christiandk]

Would you rather have a hot rod built from a 911 or a 912? Yeah, a 911 - so a hot rod built from a 911 would cost more, imo.

[mulsanne79]

Originally Posted by christiandk

Would you rather have a hot rod built from a 911 or a 912? Yeah, a 911 - so a hot rod built from a 911 would cost more, imo.

If you had to choose, then I do agree with you completely.. 911s over 912s. But it's not like an early 911 and 912 hot rods are all over the place for sale..

A gentlemen up the road from our place just bought an R Clone Tribute made from an early 912 chassis for $95k! Quite stunning price, and supposedly he had to go into a bidding war vs other buyers. So who knows..

[trader220]

The number of cars in the market probably is a good reflection of the demand in the market place. No two cars will be the same so each cars individual value is set by the person who pays the number. Some may sit for months and others may sell quickly because of color, motor, interior or any number of smaller details. No one is banging out these cars one after another because the market is so small.

[Matt Monson]

Originally Posted by trader220

The number of cars in the market probably is a good reflection of the demand in the market place. No two cars will be the same so each cars individual value is set by the person who pays the number. Some may sit for months and others may sell quickly because of color, motor, interior or any number of smaller details. No one is banging out these cars one after another because the market is so small.

Well, nobody other than Singer. Sure they are doing it on 964 chassis but in a sense they are doing it. It's a $400k car at this point. They are delivering 1 car every other week. If I ordered a car today I would take delivery around the beginning of 2017. Clearly there is a market for these sorts of things.

As for the 912 versus 911 question? So much depends on the parts and workmanship. If the car is done well using top notch parts whether it is done on a 912 or 911 chassis really shouldn't matter. With a SWB car starting with a 911 is automatically going to bump the cost of the project because the core car will set you back more. On a lwb it won't be as big a gap. '69 and '70 911t rollers are still pretty cheap.

[trader220]

Good point, I didn't consider the Singer because its a whole different price point.

[Matt Monson]

Originally Posted by trader220

Good point, I didn't consider the Singer because its a whole different price point.

I see it as shades of grey. Spoke to one of my dealers yesterday who is building a hot rod for a client on a 73 911t targa. The customer is in to the shop for well over $100k. The 68 in the video at $124k is a bargain if you tried to checkbook build the car starting today with no core car to start with.

Speedo's car is another great data point. On that car the purchase price basically gives you free labor. Thats kind of the crux. Pelican is larger diy. Many people here would never checkbook a build. As such the 68 is just a WTF? Price point to them. Completely different owner than the fish Mulsanne would be trying to hook. They are out there. You just don't find them here posting. If they are here they largely lurk.

[mulsanne79]

Originally Posted by Matt Monson

With a SWB car starting with a 911 is automatically going to bump the cost of the project because the core car will set you back more

Great point.