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dohc 09-19-2015 05:40 PM

1973 911t value check
 
Hi guys,

Just trying to figure out how much should I pay for this car. The seller has this in storage for 8-9 years. Car had CIS converted to carbs but still have the CIS. Car is not running, missing one electric module (200$) owner said. Clutch is new (8-9 years) and tranny should be owner said... All molding are brand new (from 8-9 years), no rust and the owner resprayed the car about 10 years ago.

1973 911t
- 3rd owner car
- Mileage unknown yet (owner will tell later)

Is the engine need to be rebuild/reseal ? Is tranny still good even if sitting for so long ? Anything else to worry about ?

Here are pics of the car.

Thanks
DOHC :)


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LakeCleElum 09-19-2015 06:07 PM

Can the proper seats and headlight rings be sourced?

915 Trans might seep a little lube at 1st from hardened seals....I'd drive it and and keep an eye on that......Will need fuel and brake systems gone thru.

Looks solid w/o rust......I'm no expert on prices, but have 2 longhoods.....I can see someone paying $40K once it's ready for the road?????

dohc 09-19-2015 06:20 PM

Thank you sir ! I can surely find headlight rings on ebay, seats have been recovered. I just noticed I should get rid of those hood pins and rear crest :)

DOHC :)

LakeCleElum 09-19-2015 06:50 PM

Seats look nice, but I'm sure they are from a later year and not "correct" for a '73.....Not sure if that matters to you are not?

My 73.5 is missing the front bumper guards.....Keep me in mind if you ever want to delete them?

dohc 09-19-2015 06:58 PM

Will do sir :)

Southbay356 09-19-2015 07:41 PM

pull the plugs and hope no water got in the engine with those fine "water catcher" air cleaners :)

but looks like a decent car overall......

pors1968 09-20-2015 02:54 AM

Look decent .why spray paint all over check for rust Under paint .Dont wait to long before that hornet nest get bigger.I would say 20-25k as is it .73 interior is not cheap and a 73 cis fuel tank(open ) is unique .

dohc 09-20-2015 10:16 AM

It's a complete car minus seats. Apparently the owner had a deal on new seats so old ones are ling gone.

CountD 09-20-2015 11:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LakeCleElum (Post 8801844)

Looks solid w/o rust......I'm no expert on prices, but have 2 longhoods.....I can see someone paying $40K ?????

I really do not know on this one. The red paint looks pretty liberally slathered on every single piece, including tank. To me it looks like it is hiding a multitude of sins. The respray on those pieces look very amateurish. $40k? No way. You need to check that body very very thoroughly to see what is going on underneath that big red mess. You need to step away and spend some time checking this one out and see what's going on.

You ask 'Anything else to worry about?' - yes pretty much everything. The tank is probably rusted, you will need new lines, you need to check the engine over very thoroughly, as well as the electrics, and underneath. You always worry about everything on a car this old if serious money is about to change hands.

dohc 09-20-2015 12:02 PM

How much is a good price ?

whiterabbit 09-20-2015 02:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CountD (Post 8802486)
I really do not know on this one. The red paint looks pretty liberally slathered on every single piece, including tank. To me it looks like it is hiding a multitude of sins. The respray on those pieces look very amateurish. $40k? No way. You need to check that body very very thoroughly to see what is going on underneath that big red mess. You need to step away and spend some time checking this one out and see what's going on.

You ask 'Anything else to worry about?' - yes pretty much everything. The tank is probably rusted, you will need new lines, you need to check the engine over very thoroughly, as well as the electrics, and underneath. You always worry about everything on a car this old if serious money is about to change hands.

Yep I agree, the way the car has been painted over bolts and brackets is awful and makes you wonder what is lurking beneath.

brisboats 09-21-2015 09:28 AM

I have a 73.5 project In MUCH better shape than that one and I think it is probably really worth 35k this Saturday at 12pm EST. That car has an awful rattle can look to it but , but yeah aside from the seats and small bits , appears to be mostly there. Realistically in this market let's be clear a place like BHCC would offer 20-22k for it as is and have it on their website for 39k in a matter days as a "barn find".

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pors1968 09-22-2015 02:41 AM

This car is not CIS it a MFI and you can see MFI gas filter.

dohc 09-22-2015 02:54 AM

Yes sir, you are correct. MFI my bad :/ It's got everything to get it back to MFI.

brisboats 09-22-2015 05:47 AM

If all the MFI stuff is there that would be a big value add. Is this a s/r car? If not another value add. Are those bubbles or water droplets on the fenders?
IMO the CIS cars are a great driver and easier to own, the MFI cars however command more $$ all other things being equal.
This car has a lot of pluses I can see the dash looks original and the car appears to be all there, better jump if you are serious in this market. Time permitting a COA would be nice to check trans and engine numbers and options looks like has some S trim wonder if it has the calipers etc.
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dohc 09-23-2015 05:44 PM

All the MFI stuff is there and it's a street car. The bubbles on the fenders are water droplets. Dash is original. As per the owner, here's what's need to be done:

- Paint (not a complete respray, maybe buffing and compounding)
- Interior door panel, carpet
- Seats are new but not the good year (fr and rr seats need to be replaced)
- Tranny is good, clutch and brakes are brand new (9 years indoor storage)
- Engine turns freely, needs carb conversion to MFI

Based on these, how much should I offer ? I'd say 35-40k$. What you guys think ?

LakeCleElum 09-23-2015 09:13 PM

MFI with 73.5 those huge bumper guards??? The did the big ones with CIS to hold off the Impact bumers (short hood) for another 1/2 year. Something is wrong here.........

pors1968 09-24-2015 04:28 AM

I tought 73 had black all rubber bumper guard.

LakeCleElum 09-24-2015 08:10 AM

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brisboats 09-24-2015 04:47 PM

I am thinking 25-30 k is fair based on what I seen sell lately.
The solid w/s moulding front and rear bothers me as does the paint job no orig seats etc . So if it were my cabbage I would want it for 20k but in this market would probably get out bid/aced by another buyer .
FWIW My 73 CIS has those bumper guards shown.
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