Fully Sorted...

[RRico]

This phrase is becoming overused in the sale of our Porsches.
Just like "rare", "vintage", etc.

Can someone clarify the true meaning?

[2ndTARGA]

Why everyone knows that answer, as explained clearly here:




Seriously, it is indeed an overused phrase. And coincidentally when I googled images for that phrase it's surprising how many photos of Porches there are.

[Norm K]

I think it conveys the sellers assertion that the car needs nothing. How many such cars - particularly old air-cooled Porsches - exist in the real world is anyone's guess but it's certain to be a very small number.

[Nick Triesch]

We used to say..."Wow, that car is really fixed up!" Or, " It has a re spray" is used a lot instead of it was just painted. Or... " New Paint". Kind of the snooty world of Porsche. My 85 Carrera has VW bug dome lights, smells like a 67 Bug and sounds like a 67 Bug with a large hairdryer inside the engine. My car has not been re painted. But it is kind of fixed up.

[dienstuhr]

You know, dialled in... sano.

[bpfordfan]

Mint condition, one owner, never in winter, all original, rust free [it was all fixed]
air works just needs charged!!! matching numbers- everything but the motor, never seen rain, AND, runs like a raped ape!! I just never got that one!!! Did I forget any?

[Macroni]

only minor housekeeping repairs needed……

Actually to anyone with experience in restoration or a high performance build, the process of sorting is a time consuming and expensive task and the claim will not be taken lightly.

I did two major builds and the sorting process was the most arduous of tasks in the completion of the builds.

Examples:

There are many minor tasks required to properly install a modern motor such as a 3.2 into a long hood including but not limited to fuel system upgrade and electrical harness replacement. While these are not required they would be completed in a fully sorted install.

Another would be the proper tuning of a rebuilt MFI engine. Again, this is a task that takes the painstaking adjusting of many factors to be properly accomplished. Try removing a flat spot at 5000 RPM on a 2.0L S motor or having a properly operating cold start.

Properly sorted is the difference of thousands of dollars in a purchase price. I purchased a 1983 Porsche SC for $19,000. I spent another $12,000 resorting the car this included rebuilding AC.


Do not get me started on a properly operating windshield washing/wiping systems...........

[23e Heure]

"All of the obvious problems that I know about have received attention.
There may be other problems I don't know about.
Some new problems are bound to be just around the corner.
And of the problems that I do know about and have had fixed, some of those are likely to annoyingly reappear sometime soon"

Old car = never fully sorted

[Nachtfalter]

The only other term that is more lame is "outlaw".

[pkabush]

Originally Posted by bpfordfan

Mint condition, one owner, never in winter, all original, rust free [it was all fixed]
air works just needs charged!!! matching numbers- everything but the motor, never seen rain, AND, runs like a raped ape!! I just never got that one!!! Did I forget any?

Needs some TLC which, in most cases translates to, needs a complete restoration

[NYNick]

As Tony from da Bronks yous ta say...'sort THIS!'

[Matt Monson]

Originally Posted by Macroni

only minor housekeeping repairs needed……

Actually to anyone with experience in restoration or a high performance build, the process of sorting is a time consuming and expensive task and the claim will not be taken lightly.

I did two major builds and the sorting process was the most arduous of tasks in the completion of the builds.

Examples:

There are many minor tasks required to properly install a modern motor such as a 3.2 into a long hood including but not limited to fuel system upgrade and electrical harness replacement. While these are not required they would be completed in a fully sorted install.

Another would be the proper tuning of a rebuilt MFI engine. Again, this is a task that takes the painstaking adjusting of many factors to be properly accomplished. Try removing a flat spot at 5000 RPM on a 2.0L S motor or having a properly operating cold start.

Properly sorted is the difference of thousands of dollars in a purchase price. I purchased a 1983 Porsche SC for $19,000. I spent another $12,000 resorting the car this included rebuilding AC.


Do not get me started on a properly operating windshield washing/wiping systems...........

A great perspective. One just needs to ask for details on a car claiming to be fuly sorted.

I've recently offered my 912 to a member. I don't claim that it is fully sorted. I intended to sort it on my watch but life happened. I have no issue with the term. I just expect that the car had been addressed accordingly if the term is used.

It is not a term for a condition 1 or 2 car. It is a term for a really nice condition 3 car that comes with a binder of reciepts. Cars with use need sorting. Beware the dealer and the flipper who has played the game of cosmetic sorting. It will bite you in the end.