Will SC flares affect value?

[Soarer20]

Bought a 1975 911s and the paint is blistered all over... I suspect these are microblisters from moisture in the airlines. The paint is about 5-6 years old.

Has anyone researched what SC flares do to values of an otherwise all original car? I really like the look of the cars with flares.

The car is 8.5/10 in all other respects.

Thanks

[Rick Brooklyn]

Thought of trading it for an SC...?

[techweenie]

Are you flipping it or keeping it for multiple years at least?

If you are keeping it, build what pleases you. You will spend over $5K by the time you add the flares [correctly] and buy wheels to fill them. You will not get back $5K when you sell. You risk reducing the number of prospects, but you might increase the value to a certain segment by, say, $2K. Overall, the market most rewards original cars.

And Rick is right: an SC has SC flares, so you get the esthetic you want without altering the car. Difference in price, sure, but you have something you can drive, rather than waiting for body work.

[Soarer20]

I'm curious how desirable you predict 75 911S will be years from now? I haven't thought of the first impact bumper cars as highly collectible. However many of the 74+ light weight cars are selling for surprising amounts of money.

Other than the paint the car is fantastic. I bought it because it was almost like a brand new old 911 that needed nothing (so I thought). I had planned to keep the car for many years. Engine rebuilt about 15K ago by Jeff Hines, complete records back to '75, no accidents, good rubber. Nice interior, Peru red which is a bit odd.

Did the long nose 911's suffer in value if they were converted to RS replicas?

Originally Posted by techweenie

Are you flipping it or keeping it for multiple years at least?

If you are keeping it, build what pleases you. You will spend over $5K by the time you add the flares [correctly] and buy wheels to fill them. You will not get back $5K when you sell. You risk reducing the number of prospects, but you might increase the value to a certain segment by, say, $2K. Overall, the market most rewards original cars.

And Rick is right: an SC has SC flares, so you get the esthetic you want without altering the car. Difference in price, sure, but you have something you can drive, rather than waiting for body work.

[ficke]

Originally Posted by Soarer20

Did the long nose 911's suffer in value if they were converted to RS replicas?

Is this a real question? Huge price difference between a stock long nose and one flared.

Any welded, riveted, fiberglass body modification will lower the value of a car.

I would think if you want SC flares buy an SC?

[jmz]

I did it on my '74. It allows me to run 16x9 fuchs on the back which I like.

I think a '75 911s is a pretty boring car when left stock so if I were you, I'd put some h.p. in there flare it and drive the snot out of it.

Would it effect value? Hard to say. If it is a nearly concours condition car then maybe it has some value as a stock pristine '75 then it is probably collectable to someone...

[Matt Monson]

When removing the 935 slantnose from my 74 I opted for SC flares. More rear rubber. 10 years from now I think the value impact will be negligible.

If your plan is to repaint it just wait until it is stripped. Then you can see how good or bad of an install job the flares are. Then you can decide at that point.

[techweenie]

Originally Posted by Soarer20

I'm curious how desirable you predict 75 911S will be years from now? I haven't thought of the first impact bumper cars as highly collectible. However many of the 74+ light weight cars are selling for surprising amounts of money.

Other than the paint the car is fantastic. I bought it because it was almost like a brand new old 911 that needed nothing (so I thought). I had planned to keep the car for many years. Engine rebuilt about 15K ago by Jeff Hines, complete records back to '75, no accidents, good rubber. Nice interior, Peru red which is a bit odd.

Did the long nose 911's suffer in value if they were converted to RS replicas?

That's tough to answer. It's mostly 'no,' except for the top-of-the-market cars, where originality is bringing premium dollars. And that means original, unrestored.

I have seen RS look cars sell for as much as 50% more than nice stock cars. But it's very hard to generalize because our cars are not commodities.

I've built a few hot rod 911s - RS look and narrow - and they can command strong prices. But they must be done to a high standard. That means RS flares, not SC flares; butt welded, not lap welded, correct fitting rear bumper (not trivial to do) ,etc.

Oh, and as for the question on predicting future values, I am reluctant to say. The 75S was 'bottom of the barrel' a few years back because of underwhelming performance and head stud pulling issues. On the other hand, 75 is - in California, one of the strongest markets - the last year under the radar for smog tests. And that's a plus. 1975 911s have nearly tripled in value in 5 years. I have a hard time believing there's a lot more upside. But the market has proven me wrong a few times.

[77Targa0912]

Have you checked the vin? It could be a '75 Carrera which would have had flares from the factory.

[CountD]

Post some pictures.


I have a '75 S that has been flared and they did a great job. But I wish they did not do it, but like the Guards Red '80s paint job it still wears it was the thing to do after putting on the neon three-blade windshield wipers (no joke).

I want to go back to narrow flares, but it may or may not be worth it.

A clean '75 is hard to come by. If you look at the door it may tell you yours was made in '74 anyway as mine was made in October of '74.

Would I ever flare a car? Especially a narrow-body mid year? No way. I would leave it. Those days are over. If you want a SC buy a SC.

Put up some photos if you can. A midyear with all the history you say you have in receipts and things is a rare bird.

[mreid]

My 74 has steel 930 flares and I think it is worth more with them than without.

[gearby]

Over time, originality will always beat out modded cars. That being said, how original is the rest of the car? If it's not original, branded title, or modded other ways the car has probably lost its potential as an original car. Go for it. Do consider the SC though. They were better all around imo.

[MBAtarga]

OP is asking about ADDING SC flares to his '75.

It doesn't have them yet - but since he is discussing the paint condition - he appears to be considering adding the flares as part of the repaint. He wants to understand the value impact if he mods to the flares.

[Christien]

My 72T had SC flares added by a previous owner. Excellent work, but yes, definitely lowers the value from stock. I'd probably guess 20%. Personally I love the way it looks (including ducktail), and I can fit 8" wheels under there, but the real money is (and I think always will be) in originality.

[Ronnie's.930]

Originally Posted by mreid

My 74 has steel 930 flares and I think it is worth more with them than without.

So do I.

I would pay more for a 911 that had flares added (provided the job was done right), than one without, but the whole "originality" concept is meaningless to me.

[timchar]

Originally Posted by Ronnie's.930

So do I.

I would pay more for a 911 that had flares added (provided the job was done right), than one without, but the whole "originality" concept is meaningless to me.

Amen to that, says the man with steel turbo flares on his 75, with a 3.0 ROW motor. Talk about breaking the rules........ Oh and I forgot to add, it was originally brown and I'm painting it either white or slate gray....I've got about 2 weeks to make up my mind. Tim