Removing Forums

[Six Gun]

Why was the Luxsport forum taken down??

[bobbyp]

Most likely threats of legal action?

Some of the posts WERE getting a bit over the top.

[trader220]

Its hard to believe there is any serious legal action. The garbage tactics that Luxsport employ are not speculation they're FACT.

When they claim "all original bought from the original owner in California" and you run the carfax showing its had several owners and never registered in Cali... thats a just outright misrepresentation. Or the car is still up on the dealer in Florida who they bought the car from then its misrepresentation.

When they say "all original paint" and there is over spray clearly visible all over the car, they're lying. When they say "paint meter verified" and someone else meters the car and shows readings in the teens and twenties then Luxsport is lying.

Where is the basis for legal action?

More like its a service to people who read forums to become aware of the crap they pull.

[bobbyp]

There really doesn't need to be a basis for legal action, the threat of legal action is sometimes enough. Pelican shouldn't have to potentially spend thousands of $ in attorney fees to defend some users' posts even if there was some truth to them. If someone got ripped off, they could take Luxsport to court, win there and then blast that over the internet without worry.

From the way the posts were going, Luxsport could consider spending the money to stay in business.

Pelican might have thought that there is enough info out on the web for potential buyers to form their own opinions on this dealer and thought it best financially to back off this time.

Not defending Luxsport but don't need to drag the provider of this free forum into this. Why should they even have to spend $300 for an attorney to draft a response?

[dad911]

Fortunately anyone smart enough to google Luxsport or Luxsport will likely change their mind about buying a car from them.

[Six Gun]

Originally Posted by bobbyp

There really doesn't need to be a basis for legal action, the threat of legal action is sometimes enough. Pelican shouldn't have to potentially spend thousands of $ in attorney fees to defend some users' posts even if there was some truth to them. If someone got ripped off, they could take Luxsport to court, win there and then blast that over the internet without worry.

From the way the posts were going, Luxsport could consider spending the money to stay in business.

Pelican might have thought that there is enough info out on the web for potential buyers to form their own opinions on this dealer and thought it best financially to back off this time.

Not defending Luxsport but don't need to drag the provider of this free forum into this. Why should they even have to spend $300 for an attorney to draft a response?

Thanks, that makes sense.

What really got to me was #1 the $1k PPI price, that did not turn up any of the false claims made by the dealer, and #2 and most important to me was it was performed by a PCA sanctioned DE tech. But this is a free forum and you are correct to point out Pelican is not here to defend comments made here .

[trader220]

Unfortunately in today’s litigious society even threats of legal action which have no basis become an expensive nuisance.

[Wayne 962]

The post was removed because the two parties appeared to have worked out their differences amicably. The Pelican Parts Forums is a place to exchange comments, ideas, and thoughts about Porsches, BMWs, Mercedes cars, etc. - not to complain about other businesses. It is not my desire, nor my job to play "judge" in disputes that occur between two parties unrelated to Pelican. If people have complaints about a particular business, I suggest that they use one of the sites dedicated to that purpose, such as Yelp, or RipOffReport.com, etc.

Thank you for your cooperation.

-Wayne

[Rick Brooklyn]

They're hogging six spots one after another in the for sale page, isn't there a limit if I recall correctly?

[MattKellett]

^^^ they only bumped the ads to say the cars have sold. What ever happened to just editing the post to say - sold?

That way the ad doesn't get bumped and 6 other ads say on the first page a little longer. Seems fairly selfish to me.

[timchar]

Originally Posted by Rick Brooklyn

They're hogging six spots one after another in the for sale page, isn't there a limit if I recall correctly?

Interesting they miraculously just sold 6 cars from their stable. They were such a hot commodity it only took them around 6 months to sell them. Apparently, they are partial to red...Good luck to the buyers. Tim

[Cal44]

These are typical "used car sales people". No respect for others and this wonderful website.
I don't care if you sold these cars, have some manners.

Used car salesman............shifty eyes and bad shoes

[Rick Brooklyn]

The phones must have been ringing off the hook from pelicaners digging up 6 month old ads and trying to jump on those great deals for EXTREMELY RARE cars

[timchar]

Their yelps are more than a little suspicious. Tim

[specialtyoneinc]

Originally Posted by Wayne at Pelican Parts

The post was removed because the two parties appeared to have worked out their differences amicably. The Pelican Parts Forums is a place to exchange comments, ideas, and thoughts about Porsches, BMWs, Mercedes cars, etc. - not to complain about other businesses. It is not my desire, nor my job to play "judge" in disputes that occur between two parties unrelated to Pelican. If people have complaints about a particular business, I suggest that they use one of the sites dedicated to that purpose, such as Yelp, or RipOffReport.com, etc.

Thank you for your cooperation.

-Wayne

But when a business is constantly being called out for its shady business practices regarding Porsches, shouldn't it be left up on the forum to discuss? I understand if it was a isolated issue but when there is a bunch of negative documented history people should be warned.

[CountD]

Originally Posted by Wayne at Pelican Parts

The post was removed because the two parties appeared to have worked out their differences amicably. The Pelican Parts Forums is a place to exchange comments, ideas, and thoughts about Porsches, BMWs, Mercedes cars, etc. - not to complain about other businesses. It is not my desire, nor my job to play "judge" in disputes that occur between two parties unrelated to Pelican. If people have complaints about a particular business, I suggest that they use one of the sites dedicated to that purpose, such as Yelp, or RipOffReport.com, etc.

Thank you for your cooperation.

-Wayne

This is right on. Wayne & Co have always been very fair with these forums and have really allowed it to grow and let it become a 'hands-off' place to hang out and share ideas and voice opinions. With all these current places like Angie's List, Yelp, Google Ratings, etc. it's sometimes better to let the star ratings handle it.

And exactly what someone above said. Just Google the company you plan to deal with and you'll probably find what you are looking for...or not looking for. Remember the Motormeister thread. No matter what people read or what you told people, they still did business with them. And they were way, way over the top compared to LuxSport or whomever. You can lead a horse to water...

[pmax]

Originally Posted by CountD

This is right on. Wayne & Co have always been very fair with these forums and have really allowed it to grow and let it become a 'hands-off' place to hang out and share ideas and voice opinions. With all these current places like Angie's List, Yelp, Google Ratings, etc. it's sometimes better to let the star ratings handle it.

And exactly what someone above said. Just Google the company you plan to deal with and you'll probably find what you are looking for...or not looking for. Remember the Motormeister thread. No matter what people read or what you told people, they still did business with them. And they were way, way over the top compared to LuxSport or whomever. You can lead a horse to water...

Have you personally bought a car from Luxsport ?

[CountD]

Originally Posted by pmax

Have you personally bought a car from Luxsport ?

Why would I personally buy a car from Luxsport? What does this mean? I haven't personally done a thing with them. I have no idea about them. I know they sell old 911s like every joker in the world does now.

And then you agree with me on your posting below this one?

If we bashed every clown unicycle-riding used Porsche dealer on this forum it would fill up the entire server. And that would be wasted space.

[pmax]

Originally Posted by countd

why would i personally buy a car from luxsport? What does this mean? I haven't personally done a thing with them. I have no idea about them. I know they sell old 911s like every joker in the world does now.

And then you agree with me on your posting below this one?

If we bashed every clown unicycle-riding used porsche dealer on this forum it would fill up the entire server. And that would be wasted space.

Agreed.

Question was directed more to the 3rd party bashers.

[SilberUrS6]

Some unicycle-riding dealers are worse than others. They aren't all the same, they don't treat their cars or their customers the same, and shouldn't be treated the same. While the two of you might consider them the very same as all the others, its obvious that some dealers are concerned with the customer and the product they sell, and others only care about making every last dollar they can, even over telling the truth about their cars. Identifying which is which is part of the marketplace discussion. Specific cases of wrongdoing? Sure, take that to Yelp or Angies List. overall impression of a particular reseller's dealings? Fair game among folks who are enthusiasts, and want to help other enthusiasts.