If they auctioned the mclaren chassis from Senna's first championship, how much do you think that would bring?

All of the Artcurial results, minus a bunch of Citroens to allow it to fit the 10000 character limit here. (Beautiful catalog of the cars: Rétromobile 2016 by Artcurial Motorcars by Artcurial - issuu )

6 out of 10 Porsches didn't sell.

101 1961 Mercedes-Benz 190 SL No reserve Carte grise françaiseChâssis n° 12104010020902- Française dorigine, troisième main- Voiture incro € 89,400 Sold
102 1982 Ferrari 308 GTSi No reserve € 53,640 Sold
103 1939 Peugeot 202 Cabriolet No reserve Carte grise françaiseChâssis n°853981- Rare version cabriolet- Bel état de présentation- Peugeot, € 23,840 Sold
104 1955 Peugeot 203 C cabriolet No reserve € 65,560 Sold
105 1953 Renault Frégate Ondine Cabriolet par Ghia No reserve € 77,480 Sold
106 1937 Peugeot 201 M Cabriolet No reserve € 33,376 Sold
107 1971 Fiat 500 Lusso No reserve € 16,688 Sold
108 1971 Dino 246 GT Série M € 357,600 Sold
109 1971 Alfa Romeo 1750 No reserve € 27,416 Sold
110 1971 BMW 2002 cabriolet No reserve Carte grise françaiseChâssis n° 2790182- 1 des 200 exemplaires construits- Entretien soigné - Bel ét € 61,984 Sold
111 1989 Ferrari 412 No reserve € 89,400 Sold
112 1986 Ferrari Testarossa € 154,960 Sold
113 1971 Lamborghini Espada Série II -- Unsold
114 1985 BMW M635 CSI No reserve € 41,720 Sold
115 1968 Morris Minor 1000 Traveller No reserve € 16,688 Sold
116 1986 Ferrari Testarossa Spider Valeo € 1,210,080 Sold
117 1980 Ferrari 512 BB -- Unsold
118 2010 Ferrari California coupé-cabriolet Pininfarina € 393,360 Sold
119 1995 Ferrari 512 TR -- Unsold
120 1972 Alfa Romeo Junior 1600 Zagato No reserve € 73,904 Sold
121 1963 Osca 1600 GT cabriolet par Fissore € 202,640 Sold
122 1965 ASA 1000 GT coupé € 135,888 Sold
123 1963 Italia 2000 € 89,400 Sold
124 1965 Alfa Romeo Giulia Sprint GTA € 441,040 Sold
125 1954 Jaguar XK 120 No reserve -- Unsold
126 1954 Jaguar XK 120 No reserve € 111,360 Sold
127 1952 Ford Comète No reserve Carte grise françaiseChâssis n° : 766Caisse n° : 767Moteur n°: 700109- Carrosserie Facel- Voiture rare, sur € 49,945 Sold
128 1960 Facel Vega HK 500 € 107,280 Sold
129 1951 Salmson G72 Coupé par Saoutchik € 184,760 Sold
130 1952 Delahaye 235 coupé Chapron € 298,000 Sold
131 1950 Talbot Lago Record Grand Sport cabriolet Graber € 202,640 Sold
132 1957 Facel Vega FV4 € 226,480 Sold
133 1954 Vega 54 Prototype V par Facel Carte grise françaiseChâssis n° FV-54-0002 - Première Facel Vega jamais produite - Véhicule impo € 500,640 Sold
134 1952 Delahaye 235 coupé Chapron Carte grise françaiseChâssis n° 818040Carrosserie n° 7008- Un des trois Coupés Delahaye 235 construit p € 160,920 Sold
135 1957 Facel Vega FV4 Titre de circulation suisseChâssis n° FV4-57-235(Numéro FV4-57-NY8 frappé sur lauto car il sagit de la 8ème FV4 e € 268,200 Sold
136 1960 Maserati 3500 GT Vignale Spyder Capot Long € 548,320 Sold
137 1968 Ferrari 330 GTC No reserve Carte grise françaiseChâssis n° 11589Moteur n°11589- Même propriétaire depuis 23 ans- Avant-dernière 33 € 536,400 Sold
138 1963 Ferrari 250 GT SWB Berlinetta -- Unsold
139 1971 Porsche 911 2,4 L S Targa € 154,960 Sold
140 1976 Porsche Carrera 2,7L Carte grise françaiseChâssis n° 9116609116Moteur n° 6668129Type n° 911/83- Rare état dorigine- Historique co -- Unsold
141 1970 Porsche 911 2,2L E No reserve € 92,976 Sold
142 1988 Porsche 959 Carte grise allemandeChâssis n° WPOZZZ95ZJS900032- Vendue neuve à un multiple Champion du Monde de Moto-Cross- Moins d -- Unsold
143 1969 Lamborghini Islero S € 220,520 Sold
144 1966 Lamborghini 350 GT Touring -- Unsold
145 1978 Maserati Khamsin € 166,880 Sold
146 1969 Lamborghini Espada Série 1 -- Unsold
147 1971 De Tomaso Mangusta € 327,800 Sold
148 1975 Lamborghini Countach LP 400 coupé Periscopio € 1,072,800 Sold
149 1966 Austin Mini Cooper S No reserve € 41,720 Sold
150 1961 Austin Mini Countryman No reserve € 60,792 Sold
151 1998 Mini John Cooper Works MPI No reserve € 71,520 Sold
152 2001 Mini Cooper S Works n°50/50 No reserve € 53,640 Sold
153 1961 Austin Mini Countryman No reserve Carte grise française Châssis n° M AW4L72058- Une des toutes premières Countryman construites- C € 69,136 Sold
154 1957 Aston Martin DB2/4 MkIII coupé € 274,160 Sold
155 1959 AC Ace Bristol roadster € 321,840 Sold
156 1961 Aston Martin DB4 € 536,400 Sold
157 1963 Aston Martin DB4 Convertible Serie 5 € 1,473,200 Sold
158 1960 Lancia Flaminia Sport Zagato 2.5L Sans documents de circulation Châssis n° 824.03-2067Moteur n° 82300-5063- Elégant coupé italien- -- Unsold
159 1965 Maserati Mistral Spider Titre de circulation suédoisChâssis n° AM 109/S/085Moteur n° AM109/S/085- Un des tous premiers spider vend -- Unsold
160 1978 Maserati Khamsin -- Unsold
161 1972 Ligier JS2 No reserve € 143,040 Sold
162 1974 Alpine V6 Poisson Dieppois -- Unsold
163 1970 Alpine A110 1600 S Groupe IV - Ex Jean Saurel € 116,816 Sold
164 1963 Renault Dauphine 1093 No reserve € 42,912 Sold
165 1956 Alfa Romeo Giulietta Sprint No reserve € 45,296 Sold
166 1976 Lancia Stratos -- Unsold
167 1989 Ferrari Testarossa € 107,280 Sold
168 1985 Ferrari 308 GTS Quattrovalvole No reserve € 131,120 Sold
169 1972 Ferrari 365 GTB/4 Daytona € 953,600 Sold
170 1957 Ferrari 335 Sport Scaglietti € 32,075,200 Sold
171 1973 Fiat 500 Speziale No reserve € 21,456 Sold
172 1987 Ferrari 328 GTS No reserve Titre de circulation suisseChâssis n° ZFFCA20S000072001Moteur n°111 - Vendue neuve en suisse- Etat exce € 90,592 Sold
173 1996 Ferrari F355 Challenge € 176,416 Sold
174 1971 Ferrari Daytona 365 GTB/4 Spider, conversion par Straman -- Unsold
175 1903 Moonbeam III Dit Moonbeam of Fife No reserve € 1,107,120 Sold
176 1955 Mercedes-Benz 300B cabriolet D No reserve € 178,800 Sold
177 1970 Mercedes-Benz 280 SE 3.5L cabriolet € 345,680 Sold
178 1941 Pierre Faure Type PFA Biplace électrique, version luxe No reserve € 20,264 Sold
179 1951 Simca Huit Sport Coupé No reserve € 65,560 Sold
180 1949 Cisitalia 202 série A Cabriolet Farina € 286,080 Sold
181 1908 Sizaire & Naudin Type F1 8 HP Sport No reserve € 119,200 Sold
182 1927 Amilcar CGSs Biplace No reserve € 45,296 Sold
183 1920 Bugatti Type 13 € 357,600 Sold
184 1949 Georges Irat cabriolet par Labourdette No reserve € 57,216 Sold
185 1931/2012 Bucciali - Cord Type L29 modifié € 596,000 Sold
186 1956 Talbot Lago Sport 2500 € 381,440 Sold
187 1929 Alfa Romeo 6C 1750 Super Sport -- Unsold
188 1922 Stanley modèle 735 à vapeur, torpédo No reserve € 23,840 Sold
189 1936 Renault Viva Grand Sport cabriolet 3 places No reserve € 81,056 Sold
190 1966 Autobianchi Bianchina Panoramica No reserve € 15,496 Sold
191 1949 Cadillac serie 62 cabriolet No reserve € 38,144 Sold
192 1939 Graham Paige Type 97 supercharged cabriolet Pourtout Carte grise françaiseChâssis n° 501 450- Histoire particulière, carrosserie P € 166,880 Sold
193 1947 Stanguellini 1100 coupé Motto -- Unsold
194 1962 Alfa Romeo Giulietta Sprint Zagato Coda tronca -- Unsold
195 1957 Alfa Romeo 1900 CSS Touring -- Unsold
196 1965 Alfa Romeo Giulia Sprint Speciale Bertone € 131,120 Sold
197 1926 Bentley 6,5 L Tourer Vanden Plas -- Unsold
198 1963 Maserati 3500 GTi Sebring € 327,800 Sold
199 1958 Ferrari 250 GT coupé Pinin Farina € 524,480 Sold
200 1960 Ferrari 250 GT cabriolet Pininfarina Série 2 avec hard-top inox unique -- Unsold
201 1965 Ferrari 330 GT 2+2 -- Unsold
202 1970 Lamborghini Miura S -- Unsold
203 1999 Lamborghini Diablo Roadster VT 5.7# ZA9RE31AOXLA121831999 - Lamborghini Diablo VT Roadster 5.7 -- Unsold
204 1971 Lamborghini 400 GT Jarama -- Unsold
205 1995 Porsche 911 Type 993 RS € 292,040 Sold
206 1973 Porsche 911 Carrera 2.7L RS Touring -- Unsold
207 1967 Porsche 2,0L S châssis court -- Unsold
208 1997 Porsche 993 GT2 Evo -- Unsold
209 2006 Porsche 997 Cup -- Unsold
210 1991 Lamborghini Diablo € 202,640 Sold
211 1995 Bugatti EB110 Super Sport € 929,760 Sold
212 1995 Bugatti EB110 SS Sport Competizione - Le Mans € 941,680 Sold
213 1999 Bugatti EB112 berline -- Unsold
214 1958 Facel Vega FV4 € 214,560 Sold
215 1958 Fiat Abarth 750 GT Zagato No reserve € 53,640 Sold
216 1975 Maserati Merak No reserve € 54,832 Sold
217 1993 Lancia Hyena -- Unsold
218 1977 Ferrari 512 BB -- Unsold
219 1973 Dino 246 GT € 357,600 Sold
220 1968 Maserati Ghibli 4.7L -- Unsold
221 1992 Porsche 964 Carrera RS € 202,640 Sold
222 1952 Lancia Aurelia B20 GT 2ème série € 149,000 Sold
223 1964 Ferrari 330 GT 2+2 -- Unsold
224 1951 Talbot Lago T26 Record Sport par Dubos € 262,240 Sold

Everything I own a copy of sold - ;)

Phil

What did the 959 bring?


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Let's beat a dead (prancing) horse a little more:
When Artcurial sold a historically significant, ex-works Ferrari 335S for 32,075,200 euros (now, $35.6 million) at its Paris auction on Friday, February 5, it was quick to point out that the car had set a new world record price for a Ferrari at auction. Its headline, however, came with a caveat, and while the 1957 Ferrari 335S, chassis 0674, is now the most expensive Ferrari ever auctioned in euros, it falls second in U.S. dollars to the 1962 Ferrari 250 GTO that sold at Pebble Beach in August of 2014 for $38.115 million dollars. Blame it on a stronger dollar and a weaker euro. The Ferrari 335S sold last week achieved a fee-inclusive winning bid of $35.6 million, based upon a published exchange rate of $1.11 per euro. In August of 2014, one euro was worth $1.34, meaning that the $38.1 million 1962 Ferrari 250 sold for the equivalent of 28.5 million euros, or roughly 3.5 million euros less than the Ferrari 335S sold last week.
Other lots in the top-10 at Artcurial’s Paris sale included a 1963 Aston Martin DB4 convertible, which sold for €1,473,200 ($1,635,252); a 1986 Ferrari Testarossa spider valeo, once owned by Gianni Agnelli, which sold for an auction-record €1,210,000 ($1,343,100); a 1903 Moonbeam III yacht “Moonbeam of Fife,” which sold for €1,107,100 ($1,225,551); a 1972 Ferrari 365 GTB/4 Daytona, which sold for €953,600 ($1,058,496); a 1995 Bugatti EB110 SS “Sport Competizione – Le Mans,” which sold for €941,700 ($1,045,287); a 1995 Bugatti EB110 Super Sport, which sold for €929,800 ($1,032,078); 1931/2012 Bucciali – Cord Type L29 modified, which sold for €596,000 ($661,560); a 1960 Maserati 3500 GT vignale spyder “Capot Long,” which sold for €548,300 ($608,613); and a 1968 Ferrari 330 GTC which sold for €536,400 ($595,404).

All I can say is wow........

150 1961 Austin Mini Countryman No reserve € 60,792 Sold
151 1998 Mini John Cooper Works MPI No reserve € 71,520 Sold
152 2001 Mini Cooper S Works n°50/50 No reserve € 53,640 Sold

there was a white 94 speedster at russo and steele...

anyone know what it was bid to ?

lotta people with too much money. really? over a million bucks for an old heap that is nice to look at, basically impossible to drive.
investment weasels.

Porsche results from Russo Steele seem unubtainable. I can't figure out how. Common, you savvy info seekers, anyone going to crack this? Lots of interesting Porsche's were auctioned including two 76 930's. Would be nice to factor prices attained with the other 2016 Arizona auctions.

I received an email with R&S results, neither 76 930 sold based on info I got.

Phil

Some results posted here-http://www.sportscardigest.com/russo-steele-scottsdale-2016-auction-results/?awt_l=5dU3M&awt_m=JHxJz90uXOs.C0

Phil

Best analysis of Scottsdale auctions I've read so far- Did Someone Yell 'FIRE!'? - Road Scholars

Phil

RM Sotheby's - Phoenix results rolling in
 

Here is the thing. Seems all these guys want to complain and say they made 15,000 3.3 930s so they aren't that rare. They made 10,000 Testarossa's.. Keep in mind that probably less than 10,000 3.3 930s remain. I'm sure the Testarossa didn't suffer near the attrition rate. What I'm saying here is this is another case of a "We hate Porsches at auction". This is a world of billions and billions of people. The collector car market is going to be equal to the art, antiquities market. Not today, tomorrow, but it will and air-cooled Porsches will be desirable.

Feel free to correct me but I believe they only made about 7,000 Testarossas and were under $50k at one point.

Yep...just a couple of years ago a NICE Testarossa could be had for $50K all day long

Point number 3 and 4 are ones I need to memorize:


Summary of lessons learned this week:
1.Make sure you know the difference between a collector car and a used car.
2.Put your used car on eBay, Craigslist, or sell it to a used car dealer and save yourself the aggravation.
3.Buy what you like and hope it goes up in value; if it doesn’t at least you have something you will enjoy to drive.
4.The true collectors don’t care if the car market goes up or down; they collect the rarest, which, in turn, is the most coveted.

I think they're speaking in relative terms. Even Testarossas (and other modern Ferraris that have seen generous spikes in value lately) aren't exactly rare when compared to the vintage Ferraris, Lambos, 959s, etc. that have typically been the "true" collector cars.

I was at a small gathering last Sunday in Malibu and a guy drove in in a 1938 Alfa, which we all gathered around and admired. I fired off a photo to a collector friend who informed me the owner/collector has turned down an offer of $38 million. That same collector friend I called has a 67S and has turned down multiple offers over $400K. The takeaway, for me, is that not all cars are on the market.

What we are observing via auction action is a small part of the market - the publicly traded cars. They aren't the whole story.

And that 'Did Someone Yell "FIRE?" article is the best I've read post- Scottsdale. thank you, Phil for the link.

RM Sotheby's - Phoenix results rolling in
 

Just under 10,000 total production of 9,939 and there is not that big of difference between 10,000 and 20,000 when are talking car production.

Would you then predict that Alfa to hit $38mil at auction, and the 67S $400k?