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pmax 03-02-2016 10:11 AM

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Originally Posted by autojack (Post 9020449)
Yow, that looks good. Contacted him. It must have posted shortly after the daily email of updates to that forum was sent, because it wasn't in there.

I'm already in the process of checking out an '88, I was going to try and arrange PPI today. But it's asking $7500 more, has 120k miles, and it's black with black interior (I'd prefer the tan int.). But overall it sounds great, well cared for, longtime Porsche enthusiast owner, etc.

Maybe I'll get lucky with this one.


Black/tan's a classy combo :)

And it looks well sorted as well.
Good luck !

specialtyoneinc 03-02-2016 10:38 AM

Another well sorted example for you.

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/porsche-cars-sale/904588-1984-carrera-9-10-cream-puff.html

autojack 03-02-2016 10:42 AM

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Originally Posted by specialtyoneinc (Post 9020501)

Yeah I've already spoken with him privately, but didn't commit to anything. The '88 got my attention first, but his will be on my short list if the others fall through and he hasn't sold it yet. Thanks!

Scottc714 03-02-2016 03:54 PM

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Originally Posted by NYNick (Post 9020349)
Start the stopwatch...

No kidding...no time to screw around on a deal like this. This ones gonna be gone in seconds.

Auojack...it isnt going to get any better than this. Id buy it sight unseen, no PPi no screwing around. Its worth the risk imo and looks to be a very good car at great price. If I didnt already have 3 Id buy it right now. That car will not last more than a couple days...if that. probably already sold. Things got 7/8 Fuchs on it too . Big bucks right there.

autojack 03-02-2016 03:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Scottc714 (Post 9020876)
No kidding...no time to screw around on a deal like this. This ones gonna be gone in seconds.

Auojack...it isnt going to get any better than this. Id buy it sight unseen, no PPi no screwing around. Its worth the risk imo and looks to be a very good car at great price. If I didnt already have 3 Id buy it right now. That car will not last more than a couple days...if that. probably already sold. Things got 7/8 Fuchs on it too . Big bucks right there.

Yeah I sent him an email as soon as I saw this. Haven't heard anything though. But the last $37k 911 I saw which looked good in pictures and print got an abysmal PPI result. Admittedly it had far fewer pictures than this ad does. If I had shown some experienced folks pictures of the other car's undercarriage and engine bay they probably would have identified many of the glaring flaws. I digress... we'll see if my number gets picked. In the meantime I'm continuing to move ahead with the '88 I found (just wish it had tan interior!).

Scottc714 03-02-2016 04:19 PM

It almost sounds to good to be true. I suppose it could have some oxidized paint issues or something but if his disclosures and description of the stuff thats been done is truthful and accurate it seems really good. The photos look good and everything pretty darn clean. Seems like the type deal flippers will try to snag and turn for a decent profit. Good luck...

autojack 03-02-2016 04:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Scottc714 (Post 9020918)
It almost sounds to good to be true. I suppose it could have some oxidized paint issues or something but if his disclosures and description of the stuff thats been done is truthful and accurate it seems really good. The photos look good and everything pretty darn clean. Seems like the type deal flippers will try to snag and turn for a decent profit. Good luck...

One interesting thing about it is, the seller has one prior post on Pelican, selling a Cayman 2 years ago, and the wording of the two ads is identical in places. But you can also Google his name and find lots of non-car-related info about him online, so I suspect he's legit and just copy-pasted his old ad text.

The very first car I looked at seriously was being sold by a flipper, which is probably why he had a hard price floor that he couldn't go below. Turned out the engine needed a rebuild, which he didn't know when he got the car, and he was probably going to lose money selling it to me at the price I wanted.

Scottc714 03-02-2016 04:34 PM

I know its not easy. especially with the car being so far away. Im sure his email is flooded with questions, offers etc. Pobably not a great sign that he hasnt responded. Just stay patient and itll happen. I just tend to be a bit impetuous :)

qikcpa 03-02-2016 07:15 PM

27k 88 targa colorado

TheSamba.com :: VW Classifieds - 1988 Porsche 911 carrera Targa

logan2z 03-03-2016 12:19 AM

Isn't that an SC steering wheel?

logan2z 03-03-2016 12:21 AM

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Originally Posted by autojack (Post 9020449)
Yow, that looks good. Contacted him. It must have posted shortly after the daily email of updates to that forum was sent, because it wasn't in there.

I'm already in the process of checking out an '88, I was going to try and arrange PPI today. But it's asking $7500 more, has 120k miles, and it's black with black interior (I'd prefer the tan int.). But overall it sounds great, well cared for, longtime Porsche enthusiast owner, etc.

Maybe I'll get lucky with this one.

Take it from someone who owned an '87 Carrera with a tan interior for 6 years, go for black. Tan is a pain to keep clean.

NYNick 03-03-2016 09:03 AM

Autojack..two nice cars in Classifieds. If they don't signal a softer market, I don't know what does.
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/porsche-cars-sale/904695-porsche-1986-911-targa-grey-red.html
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/porsche-cars-sale/904549-1981-sc-sunroof-coupe-32-000-a.html

Matt Monson 03-03-2016 09:07 AM

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Originally Posted by autojack (Post 9020460)
Call me stupid, but that thing has been for sale since *August,* on Pelican, Rennlist, Craigslist from here to New York, and a few other places. It's like the Flying Dutchman of 911s, and it just smells to me.

I'm not going to call you stupid. He recently updated his thread to say that he has a PPI on the car he can share. That probably means some interested buyer paid for it and gave him a copy. It wouldn't hurt to tell him you are interested and want to see a copy of the PPI. He offers it, so why not?

Maybe the car hasn't sold because it has issues. Maybe it hasn't sold because black isn't what it once was. No harm in checking it out unless you just hate black. After half a year and advertising it everywhere there may be a deal to be made.

autojack 03-03-2016 02:11 PM

PPI is scheduled for Monday on a:

1988 coupe, black with black interior
121k miles
Recent service including new clutch, Bilstein HD shocks, valve adjustment, turbo tie rods
Wheels refinished
Top end rebuild done at 97k miles
Cosmetically looks great, has had one respray
Conversation with the current owner indicates he is a sensible Porsche enthusiast (currently owns two others from the same era)

For once, I'm reasonable confident that the PPI will be a thumbs up and I will want to move ahead. His asking price was $46k but he says he has some flexibility and would prefer to sell to another enthusiast who will keep it as-is rather than e.g. turn it into a race car or put a weird body kit on it or something. I want to offer a fair price given the current market, not lowball or nickel and dime him. So what would you offer?

Scottc714 03-03-2016 04:11 PM

Autojack, I would offer 42,500 . Puts you in the middle of your original budget and his price and wouldnt be insulting at all.

logan2z 03-03-2016 05:03 PM

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Originally Posted by scottc714 (Post 9022464)
autojack, i would offer 42,500 . Puts you in the middle of your original budget and his price and wouldnt be insulting at all.

+1

GothingNC 03-03-2016 06:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Rick Brooklyn (Post 9014494)
I know you don't want a targa, but just in case, this one is a beautiful color and probably will go in the mid to high 20s

1980 Porsche 911SC Targa | Bring a Trailer

Sold for $33K:cool:

HugoBear 03-03-2016 06:39 PM

If that car goes for over 40k at 121k miles, that will show the market is not soft....

Rick Brooklyn 03-03-2016 06:45 PM

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Originally Posted by GothingNC (Post 9022609)
Sold for $33K:cool:

Yeah, with hindsight, much better car than what nirmally goes in the 20s

HugoBear 03-03-2016 06:49 PM

To me, 33k seems about right, respray, targa, etc.

Scottc714 03-04-2016 06:19 PM

Wondering what I might expect to fetch for my Petrol blue coupe. Glassurit glass out respray turned out flawless and is true Petrol blue unlike that Targa imo. That car got a lot of good press making me think I could do well selling it there. The paint job is a one footer throughout. Car has 67K miles.

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1457147417.jpg


http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1457147716.jpg

Scottc714 03-04-2016 06:50 PM

Dam its a Petrol blue outbreak. Heres another one. Same year , less miles. Thought it the same car. had to do a double take. Again the color isnt quite right (imo) too much blue in the mix.

Porsche 911 Targa | eBay

pmax 03-04-2016 07:20 PM

Sale pending on the 87.

No surprise there.

Scottc714 03-04-2016 07:29 PM

Im surprised it lasted this long. 3 days.

autojack 03-04-2016 08:53 PM

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Originally Posted by pmax (Post 9024077)
PPI perhaps ?

Sounds like the seller didn't even get to autojack.

Nope, never heard from him. Fingers crossed that the PPI for the 88 I found turns out well :)

specialtyoneinc 03-04-2016 09:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Scottc714 (Post 9023954)
Wondering what I might expect to fetch for my Petrol blue coupe. Glassurit glass out respray turned out flawless and is true Petrol blue unlike that Targa imo. That car got a lot of good press making me think I could do well selling it there. The paint job is a one footer throughout. Car has 67K miles.

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1457147417.jpg


http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1457147716.jpg

Upper $30s if it's well sorted and documented.

Rick Brooklyn 03-05-2016 02:26 AM

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Originally Posted by specialtyoneinc (Post 9024102)
Upper $30s if it's well sorted and documented.

Easily. What year is it?

Scottc714 03-05-2016 06:52 AM

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Originally Posted by rick brooklyn (Post 9024164)
easily. What year is it?

80

Matt Monson 03-05-2016 07:10 AM

I love that color almost as much as I like the ice metallics.

autojack 03-07-2016 04:12 PM

Getting closer...

The PPI on the 1988 coupe came back 100% positive. The only things the mechanic could find to note were a couple of slightly worn belts, and the oil pressure sender is leaking a very small amount. He said, "It's one of the nicest cars I've seen." My wife gave me the OK to make an offer of $42k on it, so fingers crossed that it will be accepted.

I got some quotes on shipping from Atlanta to San Francisco, it's higher than I expected. $2200 from Intercity, $1900 from Passport. I don't want to cheap out on that though so I will just go with one of those two if I get it shipped. I would love to fly out and drive it back, but it's a long shot that my wife will give me a 4 day "hall pass" while she takes care of our two little kids.

Have any of you ever used an escrow service when buying a car out of state? Personally I'm a pretty trusting person, but this is a big chunk of money to just wire off to a stranger. I don't know how something like that would work though.

pmax 03-07-2016 04:19 PM

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Originally Posted by autojack (Post 9027593)
Have any of you ever used an escrow service when buying a car out of state? Personally I'm a pretty trusting person, but this is a big chunk of money to just wire off to a stranger. I don't know how something like that would work though.

If the seller, car and title are real and can be independently verified, I wouldn't worry about wiring the funds...





... too much. Can't eliminate the risk 100%.

Matt Monson 03-07-2016 04:45 PM

That pricing isn't really out of whack. My recent endeavors in shipping cars taught me that it's usually about $1/mi. I've got an independent I can recommend if you want. They've shipped two cars for me in the last 3 weeks and I never worked with them before that. I learned that most are brokers who put out a bid on a car and a driver takes the bid. Intercity owns their own trucks and can be a little slower on pick up but it's all contained within their system.

I've wired money on cars many times. Get a copy of the title up front. Get it overnighted to you once the funds hit. There can be hiccups but they are usually minor.

logan2z 03-07-2016 05:19 PM

Congrats. I'd go with Intercity for shipping. It'll take longer to get the car picked up but the wait is worth it IMO. I just shipped an '87 Carrera with them and they were awesome.

David Borden 03-07-2016 07:28 PM

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Originally Posted by logan2z (Post 9027697)
Congrats. I'd go with Intercity for shipping. It'll take longer to get the car picked up but the wait is worth it IMO. I just shipped an '87 Carrera with them and they were awesome.

I didnt want to pay it, but decided to go with Intercity and very glad I did. Excellent service and as Matt says they control their trucks. Im sure some brokers are better than others, but there is a bit of risk there. Wasnt willing to risk the near perfect paint on the recent purchase. Ive had damage done to a car by a transport I used previously and it took 2 weeks longer to arrive than quoted.

David

autojack 03-08-2016 12:28 PM

The deal is done :) 1988 coupe, $43k. God help me if the market craters after this!

GothingNC 03-08-2016 12:40 PM

Congrats !!

Much better then spending $40K on a Hyundai :D

Matt Monson 03-08-2016 01:11 PM

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Originally Posted by GothingNC (Post 9028863)
Congrats !!

Much better then spending $40K on a Hyundai :D

Exactly. Could have bought a base Boxster, BMW or Audi and had your 43k car worth 35k the minute your wheels left the dealer's lot. The market isn't going to tank and even if it did Whats the value of your seat time.

Plus you may take this car to Australia. You don't even want to know what they are worth over there. Its really a pretty safe buy.

logan2z 03-08-2016 04:21 PM

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Originally Posted by autojack (Post 9028835)
The deal is done :) 1988 coupe, $43k. God help me if the market craters after this!

Congrats. That number sounds familiar ;)

You'll have to come out and join us for the next Bay Area drive.

autojack 03-08-2016 04:29 PM

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Originally Posted by logan2z (Post 9029184)
Congrats. That number sounds familiar ;)

You'll have to come out and join us for the next Bay Area drive.

Indeed! Honestly, having concluded this whole process, probably my one regret is that I didn't end up buying your car. I could have seen it, driven it, and potentially walked away with it the same day. And a blue and tan combo would have been preferable to black on black. Live and learn, though. I suspect I won't notice the color much when I'm behind the wheel!

I did have some thought of putting white or grey Carrera side script on it, just to give the exterior some contrast, but I probably won't.

By the way, thanks to everyone in this thread who offered advice, encouragement, and links to cars for sale :) I've already started down the rabbit hole...

logan2z 03-08-2016 04:36 PM

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Originally Posted by autojack (Post 9029194)
Indeed! Honestly, having concluded this whole process, probably my one regret is that I didn't end up buying your car. I could have seen it, driven it, and potentially walked away with it the same day. And a blue and tan combo would have been preferable to black on black. Live and learn, though. I suspect I won't notice the color much when I'm behind the wheel!

I did have some thought of putting white or grey Carrera side script on it, just to give the exterior some contrast, but I probably won't.

By the way, thanks to everyone in this thread who offered advice, encouragement, and links to cars for sale :) I've already started down the rabbit hole...

Yes, it's too bad that we both ended up doing long distance deals when we're in each other's backyards. But I sold my car to a great guy on the east coast and it sounds like you got a great car. So win win.

Post some pics once you get the car.


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