Future pricing trends?

[CountD]

Originally Posted by Matt Monson

Its an argument as old as the internet. For many years Bruce Anderson placed targas higher while enthusiast forums always sung the praises of coupes. I think its mostly a wash. Equal cars same condition same year same rough price. Targa guy will shop for a Targa. Coupe guy will shop for a coupe. I was shopping for a Targa and bought a coupe. I've seen many threads with a guy introducing his new Targa who was shopping for a coupe first.

Also I think it has to do with what your first 911 exposure was. The first 911 I drove was a '73.5 Targa. The 911 I went to the 8th grade dinner dance (driven to) was a '80 SC Targa. I like open cars better. I use them all the time - open. I had a '74 coupe as well, but it always seemed a bit smallish for me as I'm 6 Foot, 200 pounds. I'm a Targa guy, but I'd take either one. The one with the less rust.

[Mikey83835]

Originally Posted by Matt Monson

Its an argument as old as the internet. For many years Bruce Anderson placed targas higher while enthusiast forums always sung the praises of coupes. I think its mostly a wash. Equal cars same condition same year same rough price. Targa guy will shop for a Targa. Coupe guy will shop for a coupe. I was shopping for a Targa and bought a coupe. I've seen many threads with a guy introducing his new Targa who was shopping for a coupe first.

My other Targa is a Weber-carbed SC with a sport muffler, with the top off and a lot of throttle, glorious sounds, sounds the coupe guys will never know. Audio-wise, difference is like between night and day with the top off, Cabriolet is probably even better, haha,

[COLB]

Originally Posted by ASD

Opinions are like...well you know ...
A lot of owners got caught when the market on their VW split window buses went sky high.
Now the oval window beetles are heading up strong.
Pre mid 70s Porsches are super sellable.
SC models are touted as best collectible drivable sports cars all over the place.
Also stated as most reliable P car and best for a new Porsche owner.

So that makes a case for future prices to continue to rise..maybe not double every few years, but I personally am waiting before I sell mine....at least 5 years anyway..before my wife does as she has told me..bury me in it.
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For vans and beetles, the money is in original/stock cars. Not hotrods. same-same here.

If you are going to continue to drive and enjoy the car for 5 years, then more power to you.

If it is just a financial decision, and you are putting it on jackstands in a storage unit (or your barn/garage/trailer) in the hopes it doubles in value over that time, you are almost certainly facing a losing proposition over selling the car and investing the money.

[Scottc714]

Originally Posted by Matt Monson

Its an argument as old as the internet. For many years Bruce Anderson placed targas higher while enthusiast forums always sung the praises of coupes. I think its mostly a wash. Equal cars same condition same year same rough price. Targa guy will shop for a Targa. Coupe guy will shop for a coupe. I was shopping for a Targa and bought a coupe. I've seen many threads with a guy introducing his new Targa who was shopping for a coupe first.

This would be me. I couldnt find a decent coupe in my price range but did find a nice original owner Targa and made the purchase and subsequently bought 2 coupes since.

Its funny as a kid growing up in the 60's my dream car was a 356 speedster convertible. Wouldnt of even considered a coupe at the time and I still think the 356's look better with no top.

I think the Op's targa is bada$$ and well done. My next car will either be a 964 or a project 74 or earlier (no smog in CA) with a 3.6 planted. I have access to guys who can help me with the computer and wiring, and the early car and motor for that matter, so that should help.

If I go that route I wouldnt buy a car already done even though it would be way cheaper in the long run.. I would prefer to build it myself so I'd know where everything is and why and just for the satisfaction. Definitely want my next ride to be everything I want and not preserving something for the next owner. Already have 3 of those and I'm getting a little bored.

[Mikey83835]

Originally Posted by COLB

If you are going to continue to drive and enjoy the car for 5 years, then more power to you.

If it is just a financial decision, and you are putting it on jackstands in a storage unit (or your barn/garage/trailer) in the hopes it doubles in value over that time, you are almost certainly facing a losing proposition over selling the car and investing the money.

Perhaps I should reiterate part of my comment from the original post and add to it, "but has a couple of bugs from the 3.6 conversion, I can't find anyone who will work on it, even looking as far as Portland, and I am too old and doufless, so it is going to go away,"

Also, I don't want to drive it if not pretty close to "right",

[Matt Monson]

Originally Posted by Mikey83835

Perhaps I should reiterate part of my comment from the original post and add to it, "but has a couple of bugs from the 3.6 conversion, I can't find anyone who will work on it, even looking as far as Portland, and I am too old and doufless, so it is going to go away,"

Also, I don't want to drive it if not pretty close to "right",

I saw that in the first post and it kind of made me scratch my head. Have you tried Gamroth? He does a ton of 3.6 swaps and I don't know why he wouldn't work on a car like this.

If you went south to Salt Lake I suspect Les Long at Air Power racing would also help sort it.

Regards,

Matt

[Mikey83835]

update; Now for sale;

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/porsche-cars-sale/917962-3-6-uber-targa-sale.html

[Mikey83835]

Originally Posted by Matt Monson

I saw that in the first post and it kind of made me scratch my head. Have you tried Gamroth? He does a ton of 3.6 swaps and I don't know why he wouldn't work on a car like this.

If you went south to Salt Lake I suspect Les Long at Air Power racing would also help sort it.

Regards,

Matt

Thanks for the tip Matt, if I still have it in early Fall, (It is for sale now) perhaps I will try him,

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/porsche-cars-sale/917962-3-6-uber-targa-sale.html

[rdwinelover]

Prices are going to go up. They always have, always will. While the market got ahead of itself and is pulling back, that is good news as weak hands will sell, brokers and dealers will flee and then growth will come back again and tick above previous highs. Whether it be cars, corn, stocks, oil..

[Rick Brooklyn]

Originally Posted by rdwinelover

Whether it be cars, corn, stocks, oil..

How about live hogs

[rdwinelover]

Sure, why not. Chart below is since 1970. Trending up. Overshot, will come back to the midpoint and resume the up trend.

[Matt Monson]

Are those real inflation adjusted numbers or just raw $ without adjustment.

[specialtyoneinc]

GLWS but "$40k Firm" doesn't sound like you want to really sell it... Lots of people looking to cash out these days on the hotrod/outlaw 911s.

[gearby]

Originally Posted by Rick Brooklyn

How about live hogs

Its actually live cattle and lean hogs. But if you want the wild ride, pork bellies are the way to go. Yeehaw!!!!!

[Rick Brooklyn]

Originally Posted by gearby

Its actually live cattle and lean hogs. But if you want the wild ride, pork bellies are the way to go. Yeehaw!!!!!

Is there a fat hogs contract? If so those strosek sheepers should be deliverable

[bpu699]

Originally Posted by specialtyoneinc

GLWS but "$40k Firm" doesn't sound like you want to really sell it... Lots of people looking to cash out these days on the hotrod/outlaw 911s.

I hope everyone sells their car for top dollar.... as I love these cars...

In your description you state:

The bads; motor has an annoying run on condition, feels like it still has the original throttle position for a fraction of a second after depressing clutch and letting off throttle, and yes, if you are using a lot of throttle the rpm increases about 1000 rpm before going back to idle, so I use 5000 for a redline to prevent motor damage,

Also, car is hard to start when cold, and if not allowed to warm up for a few minutes, depressing throttle will cause engine to die and will not restart until next day.


I suspect most buyers will see those as serious issues, not minor. Until you fix those, you likely wont get $20k for the car. You really need to find a way to fix these issues.

You are basically saying the car dies, and won't start...

You also need to be careful. There might be some legal risk in selling a car that acclerates up 1000 rpm by itself when lifting off the clutch. I could see someone ruining the motor, or getting into an accident, and seeking recourse...

Good luck!

[pmax]

Originally Posted by Mikey83835

update; Now for sale;

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/porsche-cars-sale/917962-3-6-uber-targa-sale.html

Is there a reason why the front bumper has not been refitted correctly ?
It stands out like a sore thumb from an otherwise cool looking car.

GLWS

[COLB]

$40k seems like "sorted car" money. Not "3.6 conversion needs finishing" money.

But there is no cost in asking too much. Except opportunity.

Sounds like an"i don't really want to sell it" price. Hopefully it works for you.

[dienstuhr]

Originally Posted by Mikey83835

update; Now for sale;

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/porsche-cars-sale/917962-3-6-uber-targa-sale.html

Love the colour and the wheels. Agree that the running issues will hold back buyer enthusiasm. Didn't realize that there is a "stigma" to coupes

Cheers

d.

[Reddy Kilowatt]

Originally Posted by dienstuhr

Love the colour and the wheels. Agree that the running issues will hold back buyer enthusiasm. Didn't realize that there is a "stigma" to coupes

Cheers

d.

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