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spb350 04-28-2016 09:16 PM

Looing at a 76 912E Value?
 
I'm going to look at a 76 912E with about 180K miles and about 10K on the rebuilt original motor, it has been converted to carbs but the seller does have the original FI unit. Newer tires, fuchs, nice interior, mostly original paint, records. Supposed to run drive and stop well. What are these going for these days? Thanks

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JT912 04-29-2016 07:56 AM

I've seen nice examples in the low $20k range. Not sure if they are selling for that.

dienstuhr 04-29-2016 08:00 AM

That's quite the side mirror.

Ferrariguyma 04-29-2016 08:13 AM

Range for this car
 
With FI complete. running and recent rebuild

$21-27k

I love mine, and truth be told it would be the LAST car I sell if for some reason I had to downsize. By far my favorite car in my stable

Nick Triesch 04-29-2016 08:54 AM

Cool car! At least $20,000.

Matt Monson 04-29-2016 10:11 AM

$25-30k. Great color. One of my favorites.

thamlin000 04-29-2016 10:49 AM

That's nice looking and like the color. Car was well cared for since the paint is mostly original but it looks tired. Maybe it's the pics or maybe a good detail could bring it back. Peeling and cracking on rear qtr panel though.

Records and recent engine rebuild is a plus. Carbs are a good modification even though they aren't original to the engine.

Too bad they tried to make it look like an 80s car. Should have bright trim and chrome sugar scopes. Aftermarket mirror is an easy swap out. 16" Fuchs are off a later 911, which works good on this car.

Check the heat exchangers condition. Hopefully they are ok. Good ones are as rare as good map pockets on a lwb early 911. And expensive if you find them.

Assuming no rust on the underside, I think $20k is top value.

Sold mine for $14k in Jan 2015. http://forums.pelicanparts.com/porsche-cars-sale/846226-76-912e-kansas-city-area.html

Matt Monson 04-29-2016 12:07 PM

I think part of it is the lighting. Sunflower has the slightest it of green in it. The German names of the color is limonen-gelb, lime yellow. Here's my car in different lighting situations, in a garage, in shadows,andin sunlight
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I do agree it's a shame it was "updated". The mirror is really easy. There's a few DIYs around about restoring the trim yourself. The wheels would likely need professional attention.Here's how it should look:
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msort81 04-29-2016 12:51 PM

Great little cars for driving in town, and like all 2.0 Porsches from that era needs to be driven as a momentum car. I had a friends for a few weeks and enjoyed the heck out of it. But it was anemic on the highway unless driven like an early 2.0 on the track, looking for gaps and using its balance They sound like a VW but it's really very fun to drive because it's basically a mid engined car. Great 1-3rd but 4&5 were a washout. I still want one I can lighten, re gear 4&5 and custom build a muffler and heat exchangers for. This ones a great color !
I think 20k is the limit just because it needs some cosmetic work. Drive and enjoy !

bhmkv 04-29-2016 02:17 PM

I was going to guesstimate 15-20k

gearby 04-29-2016 02:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bhmkv (Post 9100282)
I was going to guesstimate 15-20k

+1
Anything over 20 k and you're no longer taking the car for a ride, the seller is taking you for a ride.

spb350 04-29-2016 07:33 PM

I missed out, the guy sold it to his neighbor before I got there, sucks. But thanks for the info

christiandk 04-30-2016 06:20 PM

No worries. You can find a better one. The color does not look original to me.

I just sold mine. 99% original for 27K Euros - one of the best there has been for sale in years. The car you posted is 20-22k USD, imo.

Condition is crucial, since some parts are expensive and hard (impossible) to find!

Matt Monson 05-12-2016 06:54 AM

Didn't sell to his "neighbor".
TheSamba.com :: VW Classifieds - 1976 Porsche 912E Coupe

JT912 05-12-2016 07:02 AM

I had the same thing happen to me on a '68 911T I had agreed to buy from a local guy. Car wasn't advertised on the internet or anything. I call to arrange picking it up and he tells me he sold it. Two days later it pops up on BHCC site.

blau911 05-12-2016 07:14 AM

Based upon the pic of the engine bay, if that motor was rebuilt only 10k miles ago, he must be putting only 500 miles per year on the car. BTW, that motor looks like the same one in my 78 VW Westy, sans the FI system... How much hp did the 76 912E put out? My Westy puts out 70hp.

Matt Monson 05-12-2016 07:29 AM

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Originally Posted by blau911 (Post 9117120)
Based upon the pic of the engine bay, if that motor was rebuilt only 10k miles ago, he must be putting only 500 miles per year on the car. BTW, that motor looks like the same one in my 78 VW Westy, sans the FI system... How much hp did the 76 912E put out? My Westy puts out 70hp.

Basically the same engine as your Westy rated at 86 SAE HP.

techweenie 05-12-2016 07:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Matt Monson (Post 9117089)

Arrggh.

I think they have the science of 'quick painless sale' fully worked out. You wouldn't believe the volume of Porsches they get in daily... in ALL conditions.

thamlin000 05-12-2016 08:15 AM

When I advertised my 912E for sale last year, within 5 minutes of posting the car onto my local Kansas City craigslist, I had an email offer from a man with a 310 area code. I was asking $15k, his offer was $10k with the assurance that the money would wire immediately and pickup would be arranged by them. I had a feeling it was BHCC but not 100% sure though. It was quick and they were ready to pay. And it wasn't a complete low ball offer compared to the other jokers who responded. Within a week, I sold the car for $1k less than asking to a local buyer.

And to the credit of BHCC, they do take tons of pictures of their cars top to bottom. They don't hide the issues.

Rick Brooklyn 05-12-2016 08:27 AM

I wonder who ends up buying those roached out rust buckets. Probably their margins are so high they can afford to write off a good number of the cars they buy.

christiandk 05-12-2016 10:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rick Brooklyn (Post 9117246)
I wonder who ends up buying those roached out rust buckets. Probably their margins are so high they can afford to write off a good number of the cars they buy.

The yellow one has peeling paint - typical for the 76 production. from about number 1000. Mine was 1370.

Always regret not buying this car from the BHCC Spaceballs:

seriously. It is so choice!

christiandk 05-12-2016 10:52 AM

here it is...it was 20k if I recall correctly.

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Matt Monson 05-12-2016 11:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rick Brooklyn (Post 9117246)
I wonder who ends up buying those roached out rust buckets. Probably their margins are so high they can afford to write off a good number of the cars they buy.

They sell a ton of cars to Europe. And they aren't all roached out. Look at that ice blue metalic middie targa they have at $32,500 right now. That's a solid little car. They are sharks, but as was posted they take a ton of accurate pictures. I almost bought a car from them before I was offered mine.

Rawknees'Turbo 05-12-2016 11:20 AM

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Originally Posted by christiandk (Post 9117457)
The yellow one has peeling paint - typical for the 76 production. from about number 1000. Mine was 1370.

What's this story I've read about a speedometer broken, but not broken incident you were part of, Christian?

christiandk 05-12-2016 11:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Rawknees'Turbo (Post 9117509)
What's this story I've read about a speedometer broken, but not broken incident you were part of, Christian?

Who are you? PML with a new ID?

Rawknees'Turbo 05-12-2016 12:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by christiandk (Post 9117565)
Who are you? PML with a new ID?

Speaking of questions, what do Danes wear when riding their big bore, dirt bikes?!?!

christiandk 05-12-2016 12:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rawknees'Turbo (Post 9117581)
Speaking of questions, what do Danes wear when riding their big bore, dirt bikes?!?!

Sir, I appologize for anything I might have said that could have offended you. My remark was brute and very uncalled for. You deserve my deepest respect.

C

matt930s 05-12-2016 01:19 PM

***post count***

spb350 05-12-2016 07:05 PM

There are a million ads on the Phoenix Craigslist looking for Porsches I guess the guy couldn't wait a day for me to get there and called someone else. Pretty ****ty.

thamlin000 05-13-2016 05:44 AM

What was the asking price?

spb350 05-14-2016 01:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by thamlin000 (Post 9118632)
What was the asking price?


Sorry been on the road for two days, I would not have haggled with the guy, he had it priced at $15k. Guess I could have made a few bucks but I was really wanting to drive it so I could compare it my 88. Sounds like they are fun to drive.

Matt Monson 05-14-2016 02:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by spb350 (Post 9120823)
Sorry been on the road for two days, I would not have haggled with the guy, he had it priced at $15k. Guess I could have made a few bucks but I was really wanting to drive it so I could compare it my 88. Sounds like they are fun to drive.

They are if you keep them on boil. The gearing is basically the same as a 73 RS. With the flat torque curve of the T4, if you keep it above 4500rpm and use momentum toyiur advantage they are plenty fun on country roads. You aren't going to blow by a Dodge Cummins powered duelie on the uphill, but through the flats and on the downhill they hold their own.

Jrboulder 05-14-2016 04:39 PM

Well if you just want to check out a 912E to see what it's like you should come over and drive mine. It's a little taken apart right now but should be on the road next week.

thamlin000 05-14-2016 05:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by spb350 (Post 9120823)
Sorry been on the road for two days, I would not have haggled with the guy, he had it priced at $15k. Guess I could have made a few bucks but I was really wanting to drive it so I could compare it my 88. Sounds like they are fun to drive.

Sounds like a reasonable asking price but I don't think you missed out on a 'great deal'. That's the exact asking price I sold mine for last year.

They are fun around town Not much fun on the highway. Performance-wise, they do everything the same or better than a 911, except accelerate.

brianvb 07-29-2016 04:28 PM

Wow , that post count guy is mellow today. He must be hating this thread. No Turbo comments ???? On his behalf : My 930 eats those little 912s and gives 18 bucks change ! And that's US $, not the Canadian peso.

Rawknees'Turbo 07-29-2016 08:59 PM

^^^

A 912 is not even fit for consumption by the Mighty Meatlocker Turbo - chews em' up and spits em' out (followed by a big, nasty, man-style belch, buttofcourse)!!!

Rich Gas 07-30-2016 06:22 PM

Meatlocker! Sounds like my kind of par tay! Mmmmmmm meaty.

Rawknees'Turbo 07-30-2016 10:42 PM

^^^

I luvs me some RG . . . long time!

Rich, how do 915 gearboxes shift?!?!?!

Rich Gas 07-31-2016 07:08 AM

Hey Ron, mine shifts like butter....so smooth it's like I'm churning a melted batch. Like a slipNslide
with oil, lots of slippery, in every crevasse, oil.

Sean, I see your post count reflects your expertise!? You sir, have become a master of your own domain.

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Rawknees'Turbo 07-31-2016 09:58 AM

Rich, wut kind of shift knob to you recommend?!?!?! :D


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