928s

[mulsanne79]

Two cool looking ones one Ebay.. I guess I am sucker for unusual colors, and slowly becoming a fan of these cars. There is something to them and after seeing the '86 S recently go for $52k on BAT, these maybe the new thing on the block

Porsche 928 Base Coupe 2 Door | eBay

Porsche 928 Coupe | eBay

[christiandk]

Nice cars

[matt930s]

I actually preferred the Sharks as a kid, then moved to 9XX later in life...

Although I'm currently 928less, I've owned a 79,82,83 all 5sp, an 88 S4, and a GT....
Wonderful cars, the 86.5 will prob gain traction in the near future since it had S4 features with earlier body style.

MattR

[christiandk]

Nice design. Horrible electrics. You have to had one to relate........yuck!

[Nick Triesch]

My world class Porsche ( long deceased ) mechanic 30 years ago said to stay away from them!

[matt930s]

I always hear that ^^^, but I think it's bogus. I had one major electrical issue in my 88 S4 related to starting. Turned out there was a funky wire on the board under the passenger foot well and a relay. No biggie, had issues on my 911/912/930 cars too...
The cost savings come from DIY and experience.

Other than that, just normal mx issues...I think the 928's are what these 911's used to be, fairly cheap to buy and not to bad mx wise if you stay on top of them.

Great open secret for the 928 crowd.

Check out this sad, sad S4.....

http://www.ebay.com/itm/1987-Porsche-928-/172208928507?&_trksid=p2056016.m2516.l5255


MattR

[bbturbo]

I wish it would be saved ^ 5k is quite high too.

[hbueno]

Originally Posted by Nick Triesch

My world class Porsche ( long deceased ) mechanic 30 years ago said to stay away from them!

Excellent advice, stay away :-) If people stay away, the prices might remain reasonable.

All I know is I have a stupid smile on my face when I drive mine.

Hugo

[Rawknees'Turbo]

PhatMatt, you must have decided that 928s were real pieces of shart; owned five of them and sold every last one?!?!

[matt930s]

Originally Posted by Rawknees'Turbo

PhatMatt, you must have decided that 928s were real pieces of shart; owned five of them and sold every last one?!?!

Yup, your Rawkness....also sold multiple 911's, grey mkt 930, factory slant...etc....all for different reasons and before the stupid market went nuts...lol...

Got my eye on a 928 GTS locally....you should drive one, your boostgasms will be forever tamed...


"In all, the Porsche 928S 4 was the kind of thorough, timely update expected of Porsche. With it, the 928 was even more of what it always had been: a luxurious, supremely comfortable high-speed tourer capable of astounding performance on straights and curves alike. Porsche said the manual 928S 4 would reach 60 mph in 5.7 seconds, but Road & Track got 5.5. And though claimed top speed was now no less than 165 mph, Al Holbert, longtime Porsche racer and chief of Porsche Motorsport in the United States, took a virtual stock Porsche 928S 4 to 170 mph his first time out in a series of USAC-certified speed runs at Bonneville in August 1986. He eventually coaxed the car to 171.110 mph in the flying mile and 171.296 mph in the flying kilometer, both new world records for normally aspirated production cars."



MattR

[brianvb]

We happily paid 25k for an 88 s4 last year. It's in awesome shape, we believe the market for 928s is rising .

[matt930s]

This was my mint 88 S4.

[thamlin000]

The takeaway is to stay away from a 928 because of common electrical issues.

In comparison, the aircooled 911 common issues require you to rebuild the engine or rebuild the body.
1. Long hoods: rust and die except if you live in the desert.
2. Mid years: where do we start here? Head studs, 5 blades, thermal reactors. Good for 60k mi from the factory before a rebuild.
3. SC: head studs. Engine runs great and you still need a rebuild. Damn.
4. 3.2: valve guide and some head stud issues. Not bulletproof.
5. 964: no head gaskets from the factory and flywheel issue. No rebuild required!
6. 993: CEL light on = SAI and engine comes out.

[Rawknees'Turbo]

Phat,

928s are definitely cool machines, butt way to "suit-n-tie" for my bad self; the loud, stanky, uncomfortable (except for ball freezing, custom a/c buttofcourse), gas-guzzeling hooliganess of the 911 Turbo is a moreer betterer fit for me!

[matt930s]

Damn Tham.... Well stated.

MattR

Originally Posted by thamlin000

The takeaway is to stay away from a 928 because of common electrical issues.

In comparison, the aircooled 911 common issues require you to rebuild the engine or rebuild the body.
1. Long hoods: rust and die except if you live in the desert.
2. Mid years: where do we start here? Head studs, 5 blades, thermal reactors. Good for 60k mi from the factory before a rebuild.
3. SC: head studs. Engine runs great and you still need a rebuild. Damn.
4. 3.2: valve guide and some head stud issues. Not bulletproof.
5. 964: no head gaskets from the factory and flywheel issue. No rebuild required!
6. 993: CEL light on = SAI and engine comes out.

[Rawknees'Turbo]

Originally Posted by thamlin000

The takeaway is to stay away from a 928 because of common electrical issues.

In comparison, the aircooled 911 common issues require you to rebuild the engine or rebuild the body.
1. Long hoods: rust and die except if you live in the desert.
2. Mid years: where do we start here? Head studs, 5 blades, thermal reactors. Good for 60k mi from the factory before a rebuild.
3. SC: head studs. Engine runs great and you still need a rebuild. Damn.
4. 3.2: valve guide and some head stud issues. Not bulletproof.
5. 964: no head gaskets from the factory and flywheel issue. No rebuild required!
6. 993: CEL light on = SAI and engine comes out.

Excellent, and to add . . .

7) all 911s (at least until 1990) - a curious decision on the factory's part to NOT follow basic, wiring 101 best practices = many un-fused circuits that have resulted in many fires that have done much machine damage.

8) all 911 Turbo models (at least until 1990) - oil that passes through the turbocharger's bearing cartridge is returned to the main oil tank, unfiltered, and is then routed to the crank, cams, etc., still unfiltered . . . the super heated cartridge is known to coke the oil (particularly at engine shutdown and if non-synthetic oil is used) and the resulting coke particles do tremendous damage. An absolutely horrible design that was never corrected by the factory.

[christiandk]

As for DIY. I have done lots on my previous cars. Engine out work on a 911 is pretty simple as long as you follow the "instructions" and take your time. Most can be done by the patient DIYer. Mostly I have enjoyed working on the 911s.

As for the 928, well even the most simple job could give me the creeps. Spaces are cramped and that makes many basic repairs stressfull. I replaced the double clutch on my 78 - I hated it and almost gave up during assembly. It sucked - hard!

[Rawknees'Turbo]

^^^

Didn't you only own your 928 for a couple-a-three months and put less than 500 miles on it, Chris!?!?! In other words, you did not take the proper time to "learn" how to work on it, bro!!!

[christiandk]

I actually had it for a year. Picked it up at the ferry in Oslo, drove it from the ferry in Copenhagen to my home about 5 miles worked on it untill I sold it.

Drove it 200m to the auto transport - so you can say that I dont know much about driving them, but I bet that I spent 200 hours+ working on it. Never again!

[matt930s]

Clutch job on a 928 is one of the easiest.

Removing And Installing Clutch - Porsche 928 Repair - Porsche Archives

Originally Posted by christiandk

As for DIY. I have done lots on my previous cars. Engine out work on a 911 is pretty simple as long as you follow the "instructions" and take your time. Most can be done by the patient DIYer. Mostly I have enjoyed working on the 911s.

As for the 928, well even the most simple job could give me the creeps. Spaces are cramped and that makes many basic repairs stressfull. I replaced the double clutch on my 78 - I hated it and almost gave up during assembly. It sucked - hard!