are they worth that much?

[rgmrgm]

COPART in Albuquerque is having its weekly auction today and it includes some collector cars,pre auction bidding for a 1989 911 with 121k miles is up to $35750, a 69 912 w/36k miles is up to $29500 and a 78 928 with 78k miles is up to $12,800.

[Discseven]

Not that Hagerty's values are THE reference point but worth a look. '89 911 in good condition they have valued around $43,000. $80k for concourse condition. Deduct for Hagerty's high valuations and 121k miles... and assuming car is in good condition with no need to rebuild engine or trans... $35.7k seems reasonable for someone interested in the car.

[Tori]

I think a good feeler is BAT. I've been watching all 911's that go thru there, and they seem to be on point for what the market is to bear.

[Dmitry at Pelican Parts]

Would love to have that 912 with 36k miles

[RichardNew]

I love the BAT auctions For some reason the prices seem realistic. Hey, they might be real auctions.

I've given up on the big auctions. There are just too many games being played with those large auction houses.

Hagertey is better but not perfect. I think that if you follow BAT and Hagerty you'll be close to real.

Richard Newon
Compressed Air for Your Garage

[Vereeken]

I agree that for you guys BAT is a good price reference. The auctions are real and teh bidders mostly knowledgable.

Also -bar 1 or 2- no real exceptional vehicles show up with delivery miles and only 1 lady owner for 80 years. So the spread is also not skewed as a result of such vehicles.

A 81 SC just sold at autcion last week for 53k€ (plus buyer premium). This was a real sale. The car was in very good excellent condition but no garage queen.

[86 911 Targa]

^^^^^
Our '86 valuation as per the AAA.

Best,

Gerry

[930cabman]

How about anything 356, there are body shells out there for $15.k

Where will it end??

[wrxnofx]

Originally Posted by 86 911 Targa

^^^^^
Our '86 valuation as per the AAA.

Best,

Gerry

Jesus I'm getting screwed by Hagerty...

[DerkPerk]

Originally Posted by wrxnofx

Jesus I'm getting screwed by Hagerty...

That's about my state farm rate on my '87. Agreed value of $35k


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[rokemester]

I have State Farm as well. How many miles on your 911 if I may ask. PM me if you would prefer. Thanks, I just turned 170K and they will discount on miles I'm sure.

[930cabman]

JC Taylor has had our four, '64 sc coupe, '75 911s, '87 turbo cab and '70 Power Wagon, all rust free in good condition.

1 year premium $1,070.00 full coverage

[wrxnofx]

Last year I paid $785 with Hagerty for $35K agreed upon value for my '87. Car has 138,000 miles on it. It would have been even higher if I had kept the roadside assistance.

Granted, I live in the city, but still...

Oh, and I'm 43 years old, not 21.

[LakeCleElum]

WRX - Yes, you are getting screwed. With American Collectors Cars, I pay less than that for my 73.5 Targa and 1960 Mercedes 190SL......Combined value of $120,000

[christiandk]

Checked out the cars listed in the auction.

912: 36K miles. Ha, yeah maybe the speedo says so.

928: Looks nice, but the new owner will get a surprise if he expects a 100% original car.

This insanity will end soon, imo.

[sugarwood]

Originally Posted by LakeCleElum

WRX - Yes, you are getting screwed. With American Collectors Cars, I pay less than that for my 73.5 Targa and 1960 Mercedes 190SL......Combined value of $120,000

Cheap insurance is a deal.....until you make a claim and don't get paid.
Insurance, you get what you pay for.

Also, the older the car, the older the owner, the less the driving. Esp, if retired.
I bet that a '73 and '60 combined get driven less than an '87.
WRX may be daily driving an '87 to the office.

WRX, I am paying $600/yr via Hagerty and they have an excellent payout reputation.
$50 for roadship so $650 a year. Very happy.

[Rick Brooklyn]

Originally Posted by LakeCleElum

WRX - Yes, you are getting screwed. With American Collectors Cars, I pay less than that for my 73.5 Targa and 1960 Mercedes 190SL......Combined value of $120,000

190SLs are $50k/$60k cars? I thought they cost a lot more than that

[Alan A]

Originally Posted by sugarwood

WRX, I am paying $600/yr via Hagerty and they have an excellent payout reputation.
$50 for roadship so $650 a year. Very happy.

So was I until I had a small claim - due to an accident that was my own fault.
They shafted me royally.
F. Hagerty.

I'd put the toys on my daily policy before I'd use them again.

[sugarwood]

This is the first I've heard a negative about haggerty claims. Can you elaborate?

[Alan A]

its a long story and not that interesting.
I'll summarize.

I have a one year car - not a Porker - with some very hard to find (and relatively expensive) parts.
It was totally rebuilt as a street rod. Tube frame, LS, blah blah. Six figures and four years in the build. Despite providing all the receipts to the builder they covered it for $65k.

Turned it over to test something in the garage, but I'd stupidly left it in gear - the handbrake needed adjusting - and it ran into the cabinets on the starter motor.

Ruined one of the one year pieces - the grille - and did a little bodywork damage.
I'd had the car like a month. Not a good day.

I was supposed to get help to find replacements for the damaged parts plus the cost to fix the damage minus the deductible. I shipped the car back to Texas to the builder to fix. Repair cost was $3500. Parts were another $1500. I couldn't find the unobtanium piece so it was repaired. It's not perfect, but it'll have to do.

I got no help and a check for $800.
Then at the next renewal they dropped me.
Said it was because my wife - who never drove the car - had had an accident in her VW.

F. Hagerty.